Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[udayrrr]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

hi guys i want to convert to full dc for rtr160
i dint know about electrical much contacted RD motovil quoted 4.2k for full dc
please guys let me is that cost that much

can any one there to help me ..............

[rprathin]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Unicorn has a 12V-7Ah battery, while CBR250R has 12V-6Ah one. But how does CBR support a 55/60W headlamp, while coil rewinding is required for unicorn for same setup

cbr 250 coil output around 250 watts and unicorn is 135 watts total in which 35 are reserved for headlights and rest is for battery charging. Honda's charger is very different than any other ac+dc bike search this thread to know more about the unicorn electrical.
As it told before also battery is only a storage it is the coil which gives output even a 4 amps battery will support a 55 watts bulb. Coil has to be so much powerful to fill the electrical load. You know, i had ridden my scooty pep in dc with a 35 watts projector hid with a 2.5 amps battery when my 5 amps battery went kaput it was done like this for about 10-12 days as 5 amps battery was went for the replacement. Although i didn't tried self start and switched off lights when engine was not running. If the 2.5 amps battery cca rating would be around 20 amps than i would have used the self start.
Sbks batteries cca rating are much higher.

[udayrrr]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

hi guys i want to convert to full dc for rtr160
i dint know about electrical much contacted RD motovil quoted 4.2k for full dc
please guys let me is that cost that much

[ranechinmay]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Unicorn has a 12V-7Ah battery, while CBR250R has 12V-6Ah one. But how does CBR support a 55/60W headlamp, while coil rewinding is required for unicorn for same setup

[smanna94]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Hi ,
can anyone tell me what will be pros. or cons. of rewinding the coil with 19 gauge wire with maximum number of turns ,like stock+15 turns extra on every pole of stator while having a ape rr unit? please can anyone guide me?

[rprathin]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Hi,
iam planning to convert my scooty pep + to full dc. by the way have you used 19awg wire for rewinding? are the results better than stock coil? can you share your experience? iam planning to unground and use ug4. if just unground +ug4 rectifier-then how much amps do we get. and after rewinding how much amps do we get.
is it easy for us to open the stator cover and reach the stator coil without seeking the help of a mechanic?
i have already converted my yamaha crux using ungrounding and ape rr swap.
but when i rewinded the crus coil with higher guage i got low amps in low rpm so swapped back to oem stator coil with ungrounding and rr swap.
this was 4-5 yrs back i think.
now i need to convert my scooty pep + to full dc.
got ug4 rectifier in hand. pls tell me your experience so that i will save a lot of time and money.
thanks and regards

i had rewinded my coil with 19 gauge wire and output is more than stock ungrounded coil it is somewhere between 6-6.5 amps 14.4 volts
stock coil could provide max 5 amps (12v 60 watts) mentioned on owners manual.
i had directly rewinded the coil didn't ungrounded it.
And yes with rewinded coil you will get 0 amps output when engine would be idling (just small amount of throttle output is 6 amps) but with stock ungrounded coil you would get least 2-3 amps while idling.
i would suggest to go with the stock by ungrounding it as difference is only 1.5-2 amps. If 2 amps does not matters for me it mattered.
You should see a mechanic because taking out stator coil is not easy without the magnet puller tool. For removing coil silencer has to be removed and fan also after that you will see the magnet.

[l_gbabuin]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

winding done and i had fitted it the results were very good i was getting more than 6 amps... around 7.69
now going to do winding with 17 awg on pulsar

Hi,
iam planning to convert my scooty pep + to full dc. by the way have you used 19awg wire for rewinding? are the results better than stock coil? can you share your experience? iam planning to unground and use ug4. if just unground +ug4 rectifier-then how much amps do we get. and after rewinding how much amps do we get.
is it easy for us to open the stator cover and reach the stator coil without seeking the help of a mechanic?
i have already converted my yamaha crux using ungrounding and ape rr swap.
but when i rewinded the crus coil with higher guage i got low amps in low rpm so swapped back to oem stator coil with ungrounding and rr swap.
this was 4-5 yrs back i think.
now i need to convert my scooty pep + to full dc.
got ug4 rectifier in hand. pls tell me your experience so that i will save a lot of time and money.
thanks and regards

[susheelkumar]

Re: Vijai Super / Lambretta DC conversion

Hey guyz can anyone tell me any reliable person or mechanic in bangalore who can help in the complete conversion to DC for RTR 160

[ilango]

Vijai Super / Lambretta DC conversion

Hi, I am doing the same mod in my Vijai Super.

Dear all, Here is the picture of APE's rectifier doing the job in my Vijai Super.
Now comes the next question for the experts here. With the intention of having a battery warning lamp in my colleague's bullet, we had purchased a rectifier of a Diesel 3 wheeler. Could someone give me an idea on connecting the battery warning lamp or at least identifying the wire for the lamp?
Thanks

[ilango]

Battery warning lamp for Enfield Bullet

Dear friends, I and my colleague are in the way of restoring his bullet. As he was interested in having a battery charge warning lamp, we took the plunge and purchased a Rectifier unit of GC1000 or some Diesel rickshaw. Apart from the 3 yellow wires for 3 phase AC input, the red & black wires to battery, I am a little clueless about rest of the wires hanging from the Rectifier unit. Could someone help me identify those wires? In the attached picture, the top one is of a Diesel Rickshaw & the lower one is from the electra CI engine.

[sandeepcf]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Please can anyone guide me...

we made Bajaj CT-100 full DC and your boxer seems to have the same setup.
Don't bother about which wires to cut and which wires to leave.




Step 1 - remove the screws and detach the poles. the three poles will comeout as a single unit. Do not touch ignition coil.


step 2 - blindly cut all the wires that are attached to the 3 poles. 1 wire is ground and the other 2 wires go to your original RR.


step 3 - rewind with 19 guage wire. we have tried 18, 18.5, 19, 19.5. after rewinding you will be left with 2 ends of the rewounded wire.


step 4 - solder the 2 ends of the wounded wire to the 2 wires that go to your original RR.
careful not to solder any end to the ground wire.


please complete these steps and I will explain the next process later(using pulsar 180 RR).

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This thing is same as Unicorn's, CBZ, hero cd deluxe.
in Very simple terms
white - goes to RR
2 greens - ground
striped blue - pulse gen

for your job at the coils end you need to bother about white wire and 1 green wire thats attached to the stator.
after rewinding you need to draw two wires from the stator to the outside.
my recommendation - ignore the soldered points. pretend they don't exist. rewind the coil and solder the two ends to white wire and green wire.
now - at the plug cut the white wire and cut the green wire which you have soldered to the new wounded wire.
so what happens is you have 2 wires that are drawn out from the stator and which are ready to be connected to the new RR.
After you have completed this job the next step is installing the new RR and that needs a little work which involves relays.

[DebayanS]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Please can anyone guide me...

Hi all,

I need some help.. I want to convert my 10 years old Bajaj Boxer to full DC.. i am in the process of making it my small home made DIY dirt bike
I was following this thread for long but was unable to get any idea about my bikes coil.. so i opened the the engine to look at my coil.. And that was it
i was not able to make out the required wired to cut and join.. can anyone please guide me as whioch wires to unground oad connect to RR unit..
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[ilango]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Hi,
I am doing the same mod in my Vijai Super. The lighting coils are from LML Vespa soldering in series. I have ungrounded the body earthing and tapped a new wire. Now I will be using the Ape 's rectifier unit. I have 3 questions.
1) I am not installing a battery, so do I have to install a capacitor like in a Pulsar?
2) Can I run the headlight directly with the Rectifier without a battery? 3) Is there a means to have a battery charge warning lamp like in a car?

[steelbreeze]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[MENTION=44910]rprathin[/MENTION] I did as you said and have de-soldered the green wire and the coil wire of the stator coil and joined both. I cut the green wire from the pulse coil and grounded it as it was coupled with the green wire from the stator coil for ground and the green from the stator coil is not grounded anymore. Please see the attached pics. Will connect it to the RR tomorrow and update here. Please guide me if I am going wrong anywhere.

[steelbreeze]

Re: Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

Ok i will make it clear. Green wire from pulse coil n green from stator is coupled at the connector which comes out of the whole assembly. And as per shreeni in his first post, he said we need to ground the green wire from the pulse coil. Is that necessary?

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