Engine Oils

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Engine Oils

Have posted a link a while back to identify a fake one... Please refer that people... If you are interested in Castrol Oils...

i can't seem to find it if you can, please post it again.. it would be much appreciated..

[siddharthsure]

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Guys,Small doubt... Does motul 5100 make the bike slower??? I mean in terms of acceleration and topspeed?? Many 200NS complain about this problem. Dunno how far its true. Btw I own R15 V2 and using 5100. I dunno whether it made mine slower or not. Any opinions ???

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[forceedge]

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Guys,Small doubt... Does motul 5100 make the bike slower??? I mean in terms of acceleration and topspeed?? Many 200NS complain about this problem. Dunno how far its true. Btw I own R15 V2 and using 5100. I dunno whether it made mine slower or not. Any opinions ???

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Not at all... Forget it.

Take is easy & Ride Safe!!!

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i can't seem to find it if you can, please post it again.. it would be much appreciated..

www~hicomotorparts~com/2012/12/07/how-to-spot-a-fake-castrol-oil/

Please replace ~ with . and have a look.

[sinnerz2000]

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Guys,Small doubt... Does motul 5100 make the bike slower??? I mean in terms of acceleration and topspeed?? Many 200NS complain about this problem. Dunno how far its true. Btw I own R15 V2 and using 5100. I dunno whether it made mine slower or not. Any opinions ???

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Just make sure ur using the recommended grade for ur bike

[siddharthsure]

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Just make sure ur using the recommended grade for ur bike

Yes mine is recommended grade 15w50. But for NS recommended is 20w50.. So 15W500should be looser than stock oil. Right??? Or am wrong ?

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[forceedge]

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Yes mine is recommended grade 15w50. But for NS recommended is 20w50.. So 15W500should be looser than stock oil. Right??? Or am wrong ?

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You should mainly be worried aboud the Wxx figures, as it would be the grade of oil achieved at working temperature or at 100 degrees. About the xxW figure, its good to go as long as its equal of smaller to the recommended. Infact, with lower numbers you will get a better range... and it will also help you with cold starts....

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

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After i tried almost all semi synthetic oils on my Fz16, Everytime W-40 gave me the best performance compared to W-50.
The best oil which suited my Fz was Shell Advance 10w-40 semi synthetic.

[forceedge]

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After i tried almost all semi synthetic oils on my Fz16, Everytime W-40 gave me the best performance compared to W-50.
The best oil which suited my Fz was Shell Advance 10w-40 semi synthetic.

If its the recommended xxWxx oil, then its good, if not, then change it immediately as it can cause some serious damage to the engine in long run my friend!!!

Take it easy & Ride Safe!!!

[sinnerz2000]

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After i tried almost all semi synthetic oils on my Fz16, Everytime W-40 gave me the best performance compared to W-50.
The best oil which suited my Fz was Shell Advance 10w-40 semi synthetic.

That's because xxW40 is thinner than xxW50, what's the recommended grade for fz? W-50 is high for a 150cc bike

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[devils_friend]

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That's because xxW40 is thinner than xxW50, what's the recommended grade for fz? W-50 is high for a 150cc bike

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FZ has 20W40 recommendation.

Cheerz!!

[muztariq]

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That's because xxW40 is thinner than xxW50, what's the recommended grade for fz? W-50 is high for a 150cc bike

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All new pulsars(150 cc or above) are on 20w50 recommendation.

FZ has 20W40 recommendation.

Cheerz!!

FZ has both 20w40 and 20w50 recommendation as per owners manual. And only 20w50 as per service manual.

Regarding your query on FZ thread, I dont think you should lose sleep on the issue. 5100 is a good oil and R15 oil that you have been using may be slightly less thick but more or less same performer as Motul 5100. With time the ride quality would improve.

[shv18]

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Don't want to add any more confusion on this thread but just would like to state my experience of 17,000 kms and still on the go with Motul 300V 15W 50. As per the user manual the recommended grade for 2010 model Yamaha FZ16 was 20W 40. I decided to try one of the costliest oils available even by the market standards 3 years back and the results have not been disappointing. On stock form i have pushed the 300V to 5000 kms and then chickened out of going any further with the experiment on my ride. Majority of my riding during the first 12,000 kms involved long distance highway runs and at the most my engine had consumed in between service intervals with a fresh stock was 60ml and that's about it. The main reason behind shifting to such 300V was to increase the drain interval sighting touring requirements and also keeping other benefits into consideration.

The engine temps had reduced drastically even on high speeds runs and smoothness and vibrations were more or less non existent.

If i remember correctly some of the FZ riders had issues with the 300V oil at a later part which makes me arrive to a few queries:

* Howcome the same engine oil which works wonders on my ride doesn't work well on others even if the bike is manufactured by the same company with no changes to the engine oil grade specifications??
* Is the engine response towards a particular brand of oil also dependant on the proper care and servicing being carried out at right intervals as per the manual?? My ride before it was souped up, had done 26,000 kms and before we dismantled her old heart, we did a compression test and she had not lost any of it, nor changes in the oil quantity nor any visible signs of oil leaking through the piston rings. Hence the confusion.

I am currently running Motul 300V on a souped up bike and have covered 3400 kms so far. The engine oil still looks new and has not lost its sticky properties. Will provide an update how long does it survive with such a modded engine.

@muztariq: How did your experiment with diesel based engine oil go? Sorry i have not been following this thread or the ownership thread much. What is the maximum kms you were able to pull before needing to change the Delvac series oil (if i remember correctly??). Your inputs are awaited.

Cheers,

[B7ACKTHORN]

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For all Dukers and Pulsar 200NS owners below is a message on FB from Motul India.

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Not really. The oil is tested by the QC guys and after getting heads up from the QC, it is packed. Also, all these big oil companies dont like messing around with the quality. The same oil might go to the OEM as well as to the local market.

Cheerz!!

Even if the process is all about repacking, then also there are chances that the quality will take a hit... Adulteration, consistency, changes in quantity, quality control has always been an issue with our local manufacturers/re-packers...

I have been to a Motul warehouse and there is the same brand Motul manufactured in India, and you can clearly see it on the back of their label, the oil clearly states manufactured in India. I personally think Motul wouldn't in their right minds let the higher spec oil to be manufactured in India. Yes as you can see in those other lesser grade cans they are clearly taking strides in manufacturing it in India to keep the costs low, low 20w40 and 10w40 grades. But still it could be a good oil for most of the bikes out the desi bikes out there.

This is true for diesel engines. The oil turns black with in 100kms.
For petrol engines If within few kms means less than 500kms, then there is a problem with the piston clearance because the combustibles are entering the oil chamber too much. I observed this blackening thing in my Unicorn which clocked 70K kms.

300V or 8100/6100 ? Make your choice :
Oil choice depends on your use :
300V are especially designed for racing, Motul is providing to end-
consumers the lubricants set up for the teams : that is to say that the
products you can find on the shop shelves are the same as products used
by the teams for races.

Motul info - evolutionm.net

I cant guarantee about other racing brands.. but 300V is of the shelf racing oil.

Oil blackening is two faced sword:

If you are regularly changing oil and when you put a fresh oil, if the oil turns pitch black(in a petrol engine) within 200 kms.. there is a problem with the oil.

FS oils do not turn black even after 2000 km on a normal motorcycle.. they dont clean? If a poorly refined oil is used, it would turn black in no time.

Very true. Trust me, even after using the 5100 and 3100 I still remember the oil turning to a muddly color only after 700+ KM upward. But even at times when I service the bike, the oil in the pane still looked as fresh oil and this is what helped me to extend the drain interval to 4.2k close.

How good is castrol power 1 10w40?
is this site trustworthy?-v-i-c-k-y .in (ignore the dashes,I could not copy and paste the link for some reason)
Any other semi synthetic 40 grade oil which I can get online?
My ride is rtr.

Exactly one of my friend uses it in his Apache 180 and so far it seemed to be performing well. Though it costs close to 750 bucks and it ain't cheap. Try getting it from a genuine reseller and you should be just fine. There is quite a number of cottage industries that survive by manufacturing a pesudo version of this oil. So just make sure you get it from the right guy, and the oil is just as good as the Motul 5100.

For online purchase, you can look for PlanetDSG.com

Cheers!
VJ

[forceedge]

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I have been to a Motul warehouse and there is the same brand Motul manufactured in India, and you can clearly see it on the back of their label, the oil clearly states manufactured in India. I personally think Motul wouldn't in their right minds let the higher spec oil to be manufactured in India. Yes as you can see in those other lesser grade cans they are clearly taking strides in manufacturing it in India to keep the costs low, low 20w40 and 10w40 grades. But still it could be a good oil for most of the bikes out the desi bikes out there.





Very true. Trust me, even after using the 5100 and 3100 I still remember the oil turning to a muddly color only after 700+ KM upward. But even at times when I service the bike, the oil in the pane still looked as fresh oil and this is what helped me to extend the drain interval to 4.2k close.



Exactly one of my friend uses it in his Apache 180 and so far it seemed to be performing well. Though it costs close to 750 bucks and it ain't cheap. Try getting it from a genuine reseller and you should be just fine. There is quite a number of cottage industries that survive by manufacturing a pesudo version of this oil. So just make sure you get it from the right guy, and the oil is just as good as the Motul 5100.

For online purchase, you can look for PlanetDSG.com

Cheers!
VJ

Haha ha... Very true about the Desi thing... In our country people literally uses anything anyhow... ofcourse as far as it does the job...

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

Re: Engine Oils

FZ has 20W40 recommendation.

It says "20w-40" or "20w-50"