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  • Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by SparKot View Post
    Found a Rimula R4 (Global Product Code : 001F0010) with API CI-4 Plus spec on http://www.epc.shell.com/ for Indian market; I'm not sure if it's available in India.


    @kusmaker a gentle bump:
    what does rest 60-70% of engine-oil constitute of? Dino Oil?
    Exact chemical formulation is held secret by every company what is the exact proportion is not disclosed, oil can be blend of ester/pao/gp3/an in any proportion and still be called ful synthetic, most of the oil which are fs 100% synthetic, ester, ester synthetic, are also cunningly marked PAO/Ester based formulation,and might be only having 20 to 30% ester, and rest other chemicals.

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    • Re: Engine Oils

      Originally posted by SparKot View Post
      what does rest 60-70% of engine-oil constitute of? Dino Oil?
      The rest of the FS oil actually contains liquid hydrocarbons which are manufactured from methane, carbon monoxide and corbon dioxide by using a series of chemical reactions termed as Fischer-tropsch process.

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      • Re: Engine Oils

        To what i know Fischer-tropsch process is a form of chemical reaction which converts mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen to liquid hydrocarbons, this reaction gets its name by two inventor of germany who first experimented this process in 1920, i think, it's a process of gas to liquids techology produces synthetic lubrication oil and synthetic fuel

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        • Re: Engine Oils

          So which should i use for my ignitor 125cc

          fully synthetic or semi synthetic ?

          will Honda Racing 4t 10w30 work fine or i shall use Motul 7100 10W40 ?

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          • Re: Engine Oils

            Originally posted by CHINMAY_PATHARE View Post
            So which should i use for my ignitor 125cc

            fully synthetic or semi synthetic ?

            will Honda Racing 4t 10w30 work fine or i shall use Motul 7100 10W40 ?

            Motul 5100 4t is semi synthetic oil with viscosity grade of 15w 50, as this oil is ss it's cheper than 7100 4t 20w 50 oil, i think go for motul 5100 oil as it is cheaper and far better than mineral oil plus Fs oil tends to evaporate in intense heat and you have to top it up after every 2000km or so, but if you can do that then it's a hell of an oil engine will run smoother and quieter, although all of these benefits defer from engine to engine.

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            • Re: Engine Oils

              Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post
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              For any one who wants to shift to full synthetic the motul 7100 a fantastic oil for dazzler especially for highway rides i have been using it for more than a year now,
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              Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post
              Approximately 16000 kms its 20W50 i started at 21000kms speedo reading now at 36900
              I apologize for being a skeptic.
              Did you top-up the oil anytime in this 16000 kms interval?

              Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post
              Sorry I misunderstood your question I change it every 5000 kms...
              Originally posted by SparKot View Post
              That's alright, did you ever top-up in those 5000 kms intervals?
              Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post
              No the oil level remains same
              Apparently Honda Unicorn Dazzler likes Motul 7100 20w50.
              Last edited by SparKot; 06-03-2014, 01:52 PM.
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              • Re: Engine Oils

                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                I apologize for being a skeptic.

                Did you top-up the oil anytime in this 16000 kms interval?
                Lol he surely must have, no bike would last for 16k km without a top up

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                • Re: Engine Oils

                  Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                  To what i know Fischer-tropsch process is a form of chemical reaction which converts mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen to liquid hydrocarbons, this reaction gets its name by two inventor of germany who first experimented this process in 1920, i think, it's a process of gas to liquids techology produces synthetic lubrication oil and synthetic fuel
                  kudos to kusmaker!!! . you are very right. The synthesis of synthetic lubrication oil and synthetic fuel was first experimented in Germany during the world war era way back in the 1920s.

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                  • Re: Engine Oils

                    Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                    Exact chemical formulation is held secret by every company what is the exact proportion is not disclosed, oil can be blend of ester/pao/gp3/an in any proportion and still be called ful synthetic, most of the oil which are fs 100% synthetic, ester, ester synthetic, are also cunningly marked PAO/Ester based formulation,and might be only having 20 to 30% ester, and rest other chemicals.
                    Originally posted by Honda_abhi View Post
                    The rest of the FS oil actually contains liquid hydrocarbons which are manufactured from methane, carbon monoxide and corbon dioxide by using a series of chemical reactions termed as Fischer-tropsch process.
                    Sorry, any source for this information?

                    PS: we're keeping Motul 300v Fully-Synth series in perspective
                    Last edited by SparKot; 06-03-2014, 12:05 PM.
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                    • Re: Engine Oils

                      Originally posted by CHINMAY_PATHARE View Post
                      So which should i use for my ignitor 125cc

                      fully synthetic or semi synthetic ?

                      will Honda Racing 4t 10w30 work fine or i shall use Motul 7100 10W40 ?
                      go for Motul 7100 10W40. For a 125 cc bike, 10w30 oil might not provide protection if u think of doing some spirited driving.

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                      • Re: Engine Oils

                        Hello guys, has anyone used castrol edge 5w40 full synthetic oil? I have been using this since a long time in my car, bike and my access as well. This is by far the best oil that i've come across and can hold good for a good 5k kms (for motorcycles)under normal riding. Just sharing my thought..

                        Cheers!!

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                        • Re: Engine Oils

                          Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                          Sorry, any source for this information?

                          PS: we're keeping Motul 300v Fully-Synth series in perspective
                          This was a part of my curriculum in post graduation. but you can refer to the below link for information on synthesis of synthetic lubricants

                          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FischerTropsch_process

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                          • Re: Engine Oils

                            I have a new bottle of motul 3100 gold 20w50 with me, new almost used it for a top up few months ago on bros bike. Now, that oil is really gritty to feel, when you rub it between your fingers it feels oily but like fine grit oily.... any reason? Oilbwas kept bottled up and I have noticed unused motul oils turn a little gritty. No particles there but it feels like there is.

                            divyansh....

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                            • Re: Engine Oils

                              Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                              I have a new bottle of motul 3100 gold 20w50 with me, new almost used it for a top up few months ago on bros bike. Now, that oil is really gritty to feel, when you rub it between your fingers it feels oily but like fine grit oily.... any reason? Oilbwas kept bottled up and I have noticed unused motul oils turn a little gritty. No particles there but it feels like there is.

                              divyansh....

                              Man i have today purchased same oil for myself.

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                              Originally posted by Honda_abhi View Post
                              This was a part of my curriculum in post graduation. but you can refer to the below link for information on synthesis of synthetic lubricants

                              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FischerTropsch_process
                              Buddy are you a PG holder in chemical engineering.

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                              • Re: Engine Oils

                                Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                                Man i have today purchased same oil for myself.

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                                Dont worry bhai use it and it will be smooth its a great oil but once the bottle is opened and kept unused for say 2 months it becomes weird.
                                Does it deteriorate when left unused ? I think so, but being a semi synthetic it shouldn't,
                                Ester contqining oils are sensitive to deterioration with air I herd, now someone needs to confirm,
                                Also does thi mean motuk 3100 and 3000 contain esters

                                divyansh....

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