Engine Oils

[Sushobith]

Re: Engine Oils

Of course they do and thank you.

Alright,
Source of listing: http://jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf

OilCode Viscosity Class Maker ProductName

5w30 MM033MOT093 MA Motul 300v 4T FL
5w30 MM033MOT121 MA Motul 300v FL Road Racing
5w30 MM001MOT020 MA Motul Motul 5100
5w40 MM033MOT122 MA Motul 300v FL Road Racing
5w40 MM033MOT094 MA Motul Motul 300v 4T FL
5w40 MM033MOT085 MA Motul Motul 300v Off Road
5w40 MM033MOT126 MA Motul Motul 300v Off Road
5w40 MM033MOT115 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
5w40 MM033MOT106 MA Motul Scooter Expert 4T
5w40 MM065MOT010 MB Motul Scooter Power LE 5w40

10w30 M033MOT116 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
10w30 M033MOT097 MA Motul 5100 4T
10w30 M033MOT111 MA2 Motul 5100 4T
10w30 M065MOT045 MA2 Motul 5100 4T 10w30
10w30 M065MOT058* MA2 Motul 3100 Gold 4T 10w30
10w30 M065MOT033 MA Motul 3000 Plus 4T 10w30
10w30 M065MOT038 MA2 Motul 3000 Plus 4T 10w30
10w30 M001MOT075 MA2 Motul Motul 3000 4T Plus
10w30 M033MOT107 MA2 Motul 3000 4T
10w30 M033MOT083 MA Motul Motul E-Tech Bike
10w30 M033MOT074 MA Motul Motul E-Tech Lub
10w30 M033MOT082 MA Motul Motul E-Tech Lub
10w30 M065MOT055 MA2 Motul Hi-Tech 100 4T 10w30
10w30 M065MOT053 MB Motul Scooter 4T LE 10w30
10w30 M065MOT041 MB Motul Scooter 4T LE 10w30
10w30 M065MOT026 MB Motul Scooter Expert LE 10w30
10w30 M065MOT054 MB Motul Scooter Expert LE 10w30

10w40 M033MOT091 MA Motul 300v 4T FL
10w40 M033MOT123 MA Motul 300v FL Road Racing
10w40 M033MOT101 MA Motul 7100 4T
10w40 M001MOT077 MA Motul Motul 7100 4T
10w40 M033MOT117 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
10w40 M033MOT073 MA2 Motul 7100 4T MA2
10w40 M065MOT014 MA Motul 5100 4T
10w40 M033MOT098 MA Motul 5100 4T
10w40 M065MOT016 MA Motul 5100 4T
10w40 M065MOT023 MA Motul 5100 4T 10w40
10w40 M001MOT021 MA Motul Motul 5100
10w40 M001MOT013 MA Motul Motul 5100 Ester
10w40 M033MOT112 MA2 Motul 5100 4T
10w40 M065MOT046 MA2 Motul 5100 4T 10w40
10w40 M033MOT096 MA Motul 5000 4T
10w40 M033MOT110 MA2 Motul 5000 4T
10w40 M065MOT021 MA Motul 3100 Gold 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT060 MA2 Motul 3100 Gold 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT039 MA2 Motul 3100 Gold 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT019 MA Motul 3100 Silver 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT052 MA2 Motul 3100 Silver 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT032 MA Motul 3000 Plus 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT035 MA2 Motul 3000 Plus 4T 10w40
10w40 M001MOT018 MA Motul Motul 3000
10w40 M001MOT010 MA Motul Motul 3000
10w40 M033MOT089 MA Motul 3000 4T
10w40 M065MOT013 MA Motul 3000 4T
10w40 M033MOT108 MA2 Motul 3000 4T
10w40 M033MOT088 MA Motul 1100 4T
10w40 M001MOT015 MA Motul Motul E-Tech 100
10w40 M001MOT024 MA Motul Motul E-Tech 100
10w40 M065MOT056 MA2 Motul Moto 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT029 MA Motul Hi-Tech 100 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT049 MA2 Motul Hi-Tech 100 4T 10w40
10w40 M001MOT016 MA Motul Kawasaki 100% Synthetic Premium 4-Cycle Engine Oil
10w40 M033MOT103 MA Motul Power Quad 4T
10w40 M033MOT128 MA2 Motul Power Quad
10w40 M033MOT104 MA Motul Quad 4T
10w40 M033MOT129 MA2 Motul Quad
10w40 M033MOT105 MA Motul Scooter Expert 4T
10w40 M033MOT133 MA Motul Suzuki Motorcycle 4T
10w40 M033MOT132 MA Motul Suzuki Scooter 4T
10w40 M033MOT131 MA Motul Suzuki SO-4T
10w40 M065MOT059* MA2 Motul Suzuki 4T 10w40
10w40 M065MOT034 MB Motul Scooter Expert LE 10w40

10w50 M033MOT118 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
10w50 M033MOT099 MA Motul 5100 4T
10w50 M033MOT113 MA2 Motul 5100 4T
10w50 M065MOT047 MA2 Motul 5100 4T 10w50
10w50 M065MOT050 MA2 Motul Moto 4T 10w50

10w60 M001MOT078 MA Motul Motul 7100 4T
10w60 M033MOT119 MA2 Motul 7100 4T

15w40 M065MOT051 MA2 Motul Moto 4T 15w40

15w50 M033MOT092 MA Motul 300v 4T FL
15w50 M033MOT124 MA Motul 300v FL Road Racing
15w50 M033MOT125 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
15w50 M033MOT100 MA Motul 5100 4T
15w50 M065MOT017 MA Motul 5100 4T
15w50 M065MOT015 MA Motul 5100 4T
15w50 M065MOT024 MA Motul 5100 4T 15w50
15w50 M001MOT022 MA Motul Motul 5100
15w50 M001MOT014 MA Motul Motul 5100 Ester
15w50 M033MOT114 MA2 Motul 5100 4T
15w50 M065MOT048 MA2 Motul 5100 4T 15w50
15w50 M033MOT095 MA Motul 3100 4T
15w50 M065MOT022 MA Motul 3100 Gold 4T 15w50
15w50 M065MOT040 MA2 Motul 3100 Gold 4T 15w50
15w50 M065MOT061 MA2 Motul 3100 Gold 4T 15w50
15w50 M033MOT076 MA Motul Motul 3000 4T Plus
15w50 M065MOT036 MA2 Motul 3000 Plus 4T 15w50
15w50 M065MOT028 MA Motul 3000 4T 15w50

15w60 M033MOT127 MA Motul Motul 300v Off Road
15w60 M033MOT086 MA Motul Motul 300v Off Road


20w40 M033MOT072 MA2 Motul 3000 4T Plus 20w40
20w40 M065MOT027 MA2 Motul 3000 4T Plus 20w40
20w40 M033MOT087 MA2 Motul Motul 3000 4T Plus
20w40 M033MOT079 MA Motul Motul 3000 4T

20w50 M033MOT120 MA2 Motul 7100 4T
20w50 M033MOT102 MA Motul 7100 4T
20w50 M065MOT020 MA Motul 3000 Plus 4T 20w50
20w50 M065MOT037 MA2 Motul 3000 Plus 4T 20w50
20w50 M033MOT090 MA Motul 3000 4T
20w50 M065MOT011 MA Motul 3000 4T
20w50 M001MOT019 MA Motul Motul 3000
20w50 M001MOT011 MA Motul Motul 3000
20w50 M033MOT109 MA2 Motul 3000 4T
20w50 M001MOT017 MA Motul Motul Twin Syn
20w50 M001MOT023 MA Motul Motul Twin Syn
20w50 M065MOT012 MA Motul Twin Syn
20w50 M065MOT025 MA Motul Twin Syn 20w50

Bold ones are the intriguing repeats...

Which of these is best for Gixxer(which i booked) which is due delivery. Which is best for the first time?

(I wanted to have mineral oil to be filled during the delivery..)

and price please

[asn39]

Re: Engine Oils

Have been using Veedol Take Off 4T (20W40 in FZ) API SM for past 2k kms.

Pros:

No sign of wear in the oil till date, oil loves to be revved, no problems for highway runs, throttle response is crisp, engine runs silent.

Cons:

Engine heats up in city traffic or stop go traffic, handle bar vibrates for sometime after the bike is kept idle for few minutes (irrespective of how many kms you have ridden), gear slippage (during downshifts).

Cheerz!!

Agreed...i used that on unicorn soon i am planning to change to Gulf pride 4t 10w30 or any other of 10w30 grade

For now here is veedol take of 4t quick expirience

Pick up is super (better to honda own oil)
Smooth engine run
Increased throttle response
i felt Handle bar vibrates during idle state (not a big issue)
But never expirienced slippage

Update : i also confirm heating issue after about 1000km of putting veedol today i had to drop some one who stays about 2 kms from my place to my surprise after coming back i touched engine and felt like it had driven some 50 kms it was hot enough to damage ur finger if u had kept finger for few more seconds

Pls suggest good oil for uni from your POV

Thanx



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[SparKot]

Re: Engine Oils

Which of these is best for Gixxer(which i booked) which is due delivery. Which is best for the first time?

(I wanted to have mineral oil to be filled during the delivery..)

and price please

The below one is available at most of SVCs if not all, it has been specifically brought in to promote GiXXeR-155.

10w40 M065MOT059* MA2 Motul Suzuki 4T 10w40 with MRP ₹ 290/Ltr and it is Mineral.

[Sushobith]

Re: Engine Oils

The below one is available at most of SVCs if not all, it has been specifically brought in to promote GiXXeR-155.

10w40 M065MOT059* MA2 Motul Suzuki 4T 10w40 with MRP ₹ 290/Ltr and it is Mineral.

Is it ok to use mineral oil for the first time? And I heard of 20w40 mineral oil, is there any difference between these two and which would be the best ?

[SparKot]

Re: Engine Oils

Is it ok to use mineral oil for the first time? And I heard of 20w40 mineral oil, is there any difference between these two and which would be the best ?

Yes, mineral is suggested at least for 3-4 drain intervals. If you're referring to 20w40 Motul 3000 4T Plus, then remember you've to go an extra mile to

- purchase 20w40 Motul 3000 4T Plus yourself
- change the oil at local-mech or yourself coz you might have a hard time convincing SVC to go with 20w40.

Instead go with Suzuki recommended oil for few drains and you can think about other options later. There is hardly any difference between 10w40 & 20w40 Mineral to rider, except cold starts in winter are easier with 10w40.

PS: Try to be present @SVC service bay when they're working on your motorcycle just to keep neglects in check.

[Sushobith]

Re: Engine Oils

I will keep that mind. Thank you for your suggestions.


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[SparKot]

Re: Engine Oils

...
But in a motorcycle where 20w40 is used, lets say Splendor, a 15w50 oil would circulate very slowly and cold starts would become dangerous. It may not circulate at all in some cold areas.

I thought 15wXX would give easier cold starts when compared to 20wXX engine-oils. Or did I get it wrong from reading.

Have been using Veedol Take Off 4T (20W40 in FZ) API SM for past 2k kms.
...
Cons:
Engine heats up in city traffic or stop go traffic, handle bar vibrates for sometime after the bike is kept idle for few minutes (irrespective of how many kms you have ridden), gear slippage (during downshifts).

Please elaborate on the slipping part?

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

Please elaborate on the slipping part?

While downshifting, sometimes the gears wont engage properly. So, i have to throttle a bit and downshift again.

Cheerz!!

[kmk0311]

Re: Engine Oils

While downshifting, sometimes the gears wont engage properly. So, i have to throttle a bit and downshift again.

Cheerz!!

Happens to me too.. But I have no idea why!! Even while upshifting sometimes.. 😕

[muztariq]

Re: Engine Oils

I thought 15wXX would give easier cold starts when compared to 20wXX engine-oils. Or did I get it wrong from reading.



Please elaborate on the slipping part?

You have to see the wXX part also. A 15w50 would be slow circulating than 20w40. And if the motorcycle is not designed to use heavy oils like the splendor and other 100 cc bikes, it can be suicidal.

[forceedge]

Re: Engine Oils

Guys keep it simple XXwXX, the first pair of XX denotes the viscosity of the oil at lower temperatures, and the second pair of XX will denote the viscosity of the oil during higher temperature. So the lower the first XX, the better it is for cold start, and the higher the second XX, the better it is for the engine while running.

[muztariq]

Re: Engine Oils

Guys keep it simple XXwXX, the first pair of XX denotes the viscosity of the oil at lower temperatures, and the second pair of XX will denote the viscosity of the oil during higher temperature. So the lower the first XX, the better it is for cold start, and the higher the second XX, the better it is for the engine while running.

It's not so simple when wXX is different.
Which oil would have lower viscosity at 25deg C?
10w60 or 20w40?
The answer is 20w40.

[SparKot]

Re: Engine Oils

It's not so simple when wXX is different.
Which oil would have lower viscosity at 25deg C?
10w60 or 20w40?
The answer is 20w40.

Got it, I knew before that 10w60 & 20w40 will cross over each other, but never imagined as low as room temperature(~25 ⁰C).

Also thought 10w30 & 10w50 should have similar cold profile, which was wrong.

Thanks

[asn39]

Re: Engine Oils

Got it, I knew before that 10w60 & 20w40 will cross over each other, but not at as low as room temperature(~25 ⁰C).

Also thought 15w40 & 15w50 should have similar cold profile, which was wrong.

Thanks

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Nice find brother helpful clearing myths

[forceedge]

Re: Engine Oils

It's not so simple when wXX is different.
Which oil would have lower viscosity at 25deg C?
10w60 or 20w40?
The answer is 20w40.

Hey Muztariq, howdy friend? I was just giving general idea to the guys discussing it...