Engine Oils

[TheDoctor]

Oh ok... so the Access has seperate oil for the transmission. Any idea which oil is used for the same? I guess it is Suzuki branded?

Yes, but could not make note of the grade, prolly (80w-90, not sure), and its not given in the service manual, I was thinking of getting an aftermarket gear oil too.

[Raccoon]

^^^Hmmm... that grade is generally used in cars, etc. Do let us know what grade is used... if you manage to find out... you will have to, if you want to use aftermarket stuff.

[TheDoctor]

I will visit the showroom/a s s in another two days to get the RC book and to find out about the gear oil grade and rating. If I get better brand with the same/better specs for the engine and gear will get the same(though it may void the warranty ). BTW this scooter uses a dry clutch not sure about other scoots!

If you need any info regarding the access 125 feel free to ask, and thank you for your replies.

[nirvan]

Yes, I saw this several weeks ago at the Castrol dealer when I went to buy CRB for my Shogun.

As its from Castrol; and as can be expected, at a higher price/overpriced (Rs. 265 against Gulf's Rs. 200), I wasn't inclined at all to try it out.

Anyway, has anybody else used it? Any reviews?

Didn't understand this statement: "* Engine not as smooth as it would have been if mineral oil had been used." Do you mean that the bike felt LESS smoother than when you were using Gulf?

Sorry, I didn't see this question earlier.

About the smoothness of the engine after I switched to Power1 10w30:

* The engine is somewhat smoother when compared to Gulf semisynth 10w30.
* Overall, for engine smoothness riding around town, I've come to the conclusion that HH 10w30 mineral oil is smoothest, by far. I've not tried/found another brand that sells straight mineral oil in this grade.
* I can't say I'm very happy about the smoothness of Power1. I've not used it for more than 750km yet, but it is likely I'll switch soon back to HH mineral oil.
* My two cents: I recommend that HH mineral oil be used for standard use. It feels better and could be changed every 1500-2000km. The manual recommends an oil change every 6000km though, to put things in perspective.

PS: I'm not sure why you would want to use an oil meant for diesels (CRB) for your Shogun when there's a plenitude of 20w40 motorcycle oils available?

[Raccoon]

^^^Now thats really strange, because I found Gulf Pride 4T Plus outperforms the HH oil. Bike feels smoother, revs more, heats up a bit less. In fact I found myself doing higher revs since I changed over to Gulf. I can see absolutely no reason to use HH oil when something better is available at a negligibly higher cost.

Which HH oil are you comparing it with? I'm comparing it with Idemitsu.

Is the Castrol 10W30 an extended drain period oil? Is anything to this effect mentioned on the pack?

About CRB - there are many reasons why I still use it for my Suzuki Shogun. First, it is one of the recommended oils in the manual. None of the other brands recommended are available now. However, CRB's formulation has changed, possibly more than once, since the manual was written... and it is no longer even rated for petrol engines (so I'm not sure if the original recommendation holds). Second is that diesel oils are more heavy duty and there is a school of thought that they do the job better. Third is that I'v been using that oil since the begining, so not keen on mixing stuff.

I'v heard of some people of using CRB in their 4 stroke bikes also. Dosen't anybody here use it??

[Sarvajit]

There is a semi-synthetic oil launched by Yamaha recently which is exclusively for 2 strokes. You might wanna take a look at that.

[Raccoon]

Are you sure it is for the transmission?? I'd really wonder why Yamaha would want to lanch such a product now... since nobody makes 2-strokers anymore?!

[Sarvajit]

Are you sure it is for the transmission?? I'd really wonder why Yamaha would want to lanch such a product now... since nobody makes 2-strokers anymore?!

More or less sure. I was also thinking why they launched it now! Its called Yamalube something. You can find out from any Yamaha SC.

[Raccoon]

Will try and check it out. Worst thing is that there is no Yamaha dealer anywhere even close to my part of the city. Thats also one of the reasons I'v never bought a Yamaha, ever. Also, am a bit wary about trying an exlusive Yamaha branded oil on a TVS bike...

Will check it out when I'm near a Yamaha dealer though.

[HydBiker]

Hey guys,

I was just going through a test article a few days about some tests carried out in Georgia (there is some famous testing lab there, sorry forgot the name).

On this thread, after seeing the oil name "Yamalube", I remembered that it was mentioned in that document, that Yamalube has one of the lowest concentrations of zinc & phosphorus.

These both are the last measures of safety for the engine & zinc is what will protect the engine when there is actual metal to metal contact.

Just wanted to post this as a word of caution. Will try to look out for that article & post it here.

Happy & safe riding,
Prakhar

Yamaha or most other companies do not stick to one brand and/or spec for their engine oil throughout. First of all, they don't make it themselves. In India Yamalube 4T generally is 20W40 API SJ JASO MA oil made by Exxon Mobil. It is different at different places... There's even Petronas oil branded YamaLube in some markets.

Bought the petronas sprinta4t5000 for 265 bucks ,jus a month back
If anebone from east delhi looking for this oil then there is a distributor:



at its price i feel the oil is best because motul n CP1R r way too xpensive
compared to this

That's a steal. If there's an affordable way to parcel (like bus parcel service) a carton from Delhi to Hyd, we'd order for a full carton immediately from Gupta Oil Co.

yes anna.....the oil we saw in ram kote was for cars right? it was not 300V but it was 8100 somthing! and it costed 1000 bucks a ltr

We saw that oil at 21st Century guy. But he is only a reseller. The dealer is the Bajaj spares shop opposite to him. He had stock of Motul 300V FL 5W40.

[ragGZ_]

i used teh mobil 1 fully synthetic oil in my ZMA a couple of moths back (honestly i don know the grade) but i did notice the diffrence between the normal oils and the mobil 1. i have also heard a lot about the shell v-power engine oils. can i use the shell v power (mobil 1 - pls help me with the grade) in my zma, 2007 model and if yes can pls anyone help me with the place where i can get these oils in hyderabad??

[sk8er_joe]

Hey Guyz,....

Have anyone seen the can of Motul FL 5W40 synthetic. There is no API or JASO rating on the can which I bought from a Motul dealer. Can anyone confirm???

[jayprashanth]

Feedback: Veedol SuperSwift 10W40 semi-synth in Machismo 500

I bought four litres of Veedol SuperSwift Semisynth 10W40 last Thursday from Aroor Udyog, Siddaiah road. I managed to buy the oil at Rs250/liter. I changed the oil+oil filter on my 4350 Km run, LB500 on Saturday and since then, there has been a noticeable increase in smoothness. The engine wasn't flushed with any additive but I drained the oil immediately after going out for a 20 Km high speed spin. This was an unscheduled oil change with the older oil fit to go for another 1000 Ks. The vibes which used to set in at 90 Kph on the speedo have now shifted to 100+. This means that I now have a higher cruising speed with lesser fatigue. +1 for the Veedol blend. The downside is that the rockers make a bigger racket than before. I was prepared for this as a couple of bulleteers had predicted this happening. Coming to the engine temperature, it hasn't decreased and remains the same as before. However, the oil temperature on a fully warm engine is much lesser than that of the earlier mineral oils.I can comfortable touch it without feeling much heat. Previously, the oil used to be pretty hot. So, I guess the oil is working to keep the engine internals cool. I was apprehensive about the Bullets losing some oil through the gaskets like the pulsars do on synthetic blends. Thankfully, it hasn't happened and the oil stays where it has to. I used the same oil for the primary case too and the clutch feel has become better too. No slipping whatsoever and the gearshifts are precise now. The clutch feels a tad more progressive in the stop-go Bangalore traffic conditions. That said, this could also have to do with the gearbox freeing up.Overall, I am pretty pleased with how the oil is behaving. Recommended for the Bulls. I didn't go for a fully synthetic oil like the Agip/Sprinta as I need three litres for every oil change and I change oil at 2000 Kms instead of the factory recommended 3000 clicks. This makes synthetics pretty expensive. So, the Veedol SuperSwift is working out to be a good performance-VFM proposition for me.

[HydBiker]

i used teh mobil 1 fully synthetic oil in my ZMA a couple of moths back (honestly i don know the grade) but i did notice the diffrence between the normal oils and the mobil 1. i have also heard a lot about the shell v-power engine oils. can i use the shell v power (mobil 1 - pls help me with the grade) in my zma, 2007 model and if yes can pls anyone help me with the place where i can get these oils in hyderabad??

Raghu, Neither the Mobil1 not the Shell oil you have mentioned is made for motorcycles - Dry clutch. Please read this thread from start to understand what I mean.

BTW, isn't the Shell V-Power brand name used for fuels? Are you sure of a V-Power engine oil?

Hey Guyz,....

Have anyone seen the can of Motul FL 5W40 synthetic. There is no API or JASO rating on the can which I bought from a Motul dealer. Can anyone confirm???

Is Motul doing a Castrol???

I guess it should be JASO MA2 & API SL. It should at least be JASO MA & API SJ.

I bought four litres of Veedol SuperSwift Semisynth 10W40 last Thursday from Aroor Udyog, Siddaiah road. I managed to buy the oil at Rs250/liter.

I didn't go for a fully synthetic oil like the Agip/Sprinta as I need three litres for every oil change and I change oil at 2000 Kms instead of the factory recommended 3000 clicks. This makes synthetics pretty expensive. So, the Veedol SuperSwift is working out to be a good performance-VFM proposition for me.

Jay, doesn't the LB500 come with a 20W50 recommendation?

And it is good to see oil running cooler... Veedol Super Swift has got good reviews on xBhp and yours add to it.

BTW, with these semi synths & synths you can run for more than 2000 KMs without any issues. May be you can try the Sprinta (@ Rs 330 a liter) and run it for more time as it is a fully synth and holds to its properties much better for much longer. Of course, the only reason for suggesting Sprinta is that others in that range cost about double or more than it does.

[onlinesatish]

Left my bike at kiran Tvs for servicing yesterday. The supervisor just called up and informed the engine oil(Petronas fully Synthetic) is completly spoilt. Its been only 1800 kms since i changed the oil. I checked it last week it was completly black. i expected it to last another 1k but it did'nt.

I guess this has more to do with my bike. I'll be meeting the supervisor in another hour. lets see wat he has to say!

P.s - last time Sprinta lasted a good 4.5k kms