Engine Oils

[pioneeraron]

Hi Everybody,

I own a Pulsar 150 Dtsi and now clocked 35000 KMS.
Few months before i used Shell Advance Ultra 10w40 - Fully Synthetic in my bike and i feel the lot of change in my bike like less vibration,nice milage.
After 3500 KMS with the previous oil, i changed to Shell AX7 10w40 - Semi Synthetic and also it proved to be nice to my bike.
Again the time has came to service my bike and change the engine oil, so this time i thought to use Shell 15w40 grade fully synthetic oil.
But the 15w40 grade is not present in Shell so should i again i go with Shell Advance Ultra 10w40 - Fully Synthetic oil.

So i wanted to know will it be ok to again use the same Shell Advance Ultra 10w40 - Fully Synthetic oil ?

It's ok to stick with Shell advance ultra 10w40.But dont keep switching from fully synthetic --> semi --> fully synthetic ..Stick either with fully or semi.You can try Motul 5100 or Motul 300v FL 15w50.

[Nigen]

Motul 5100 10W40

Has anyone in the forum managed to get hold of Motul 5100 10W40 ? I have been searching for it, but I couldn't get one

[Mzee_Maverik]

I don't want to use thicker grade... Just want 10w40 or 10w50... One of the members in XBHP told me that motul is not that good for ZMR, but yes if I get some more encouragement (based on experience), I'll go for motul..

bro motul will be fine if you opt for 10w40 grade but yes if you go for 15w50 grade you will regret.
IMO get shell advance ultra 10w40, it is the best oil i have used so far. engine smoothness, gear shift all are superb.
here the price is:
motul 300v 10w40 is 980rs/l
shell advance ultra 10w40 is 700rs/l
i dont feel motul worth those extra 280 bucks. but still its my opinion.

[sand_sat]

It's ok to stick with Shell advance ultra 10w40.But dont keep switching from fully synthetic --> semi --> fully synthetic ..Stick either with fully or semi.You can try Motul 5100 or Motul 300v FL 15w50.

Thanks for the information.
But i want to know can we use synthetic oil in Pulsar forever.
As per manual, it is recommended to use oil with grade of 20w40, but we are using 10w40.

Just because now it will be winter in Mumbai and it doesn't mind to use 10w40 grade oil, but in summer since it's very hot we can't go for 10w40 or 15w50 grade oil because their texture is already thin and if we use this oil in hot climate the engine will get smooth but will get erode easliy.

[maraque]

bro motul will be fine if you opt for 10w40 grade but yes if you go for 15w50 grade you will regret.
IMO get shell advance ultra 10w40, it is the best oil i have used so far. engine smoothness, gear shift all are superb.
here the price is:
motul 300v 10w40 is 980rs/l
shell advance ultra 10w40 is 700rs/l
i dont feel motul worth those extra 280 bucks. but still its my opinion.

You're paying more for the actual nature of the oils themselves. The Shell is a a mineral oil that has been highly refined through various synthetic processes, and therefore is nothing more than that, a super-refined mineral oil ultimately.

On the other hand, the Motul is oil made out of an actual synthetic compound, the ester, it is not a mineral oil. Therefore, you will see "ester" being listed as the components of the Motul oil.

It's rare nowadays to find synthetic oils oils that are made purely out of ester, everyone and their grandma has gone to the other variety, highly refined with a synthetic process mineral oils.

[madhav krishna]

You're paying more for the actual nature of the oils themselves. The Shell is a a mineral oil that has been highly refined through various synthetic processes, and therefore is nothing more than that, a super-refined mineral oil ultimately.

On the other hand, the Motul is oil made out of an actual synthetic compound, the ester, it is not a mineral oil. Therefore, you will see "ester" being listed as the components of the Motul oil.

It's rare nowadays to find synthetic oils oils that are made purely out of ester, everyone and their grandma has gone to the other variety, highly refined with a synthetic process mineral oils.

I would rather consider the shell advance ultra as a semi synthetic oil since it is a blend of esters and mineral oil.

bro motul will be fine if you opt for 10w40 grade but yes if you go for 15w50 grade you will regret.
IMO get shell advance ultra 10w40, it is the best oil i have used so far. engine smoothness, gear shift all are superb.
here the price is:
motul 300v 10w40 is 980rs/l
shell advance ultra 10w40 is 700rs/l
i dont feel motul worth those extra 280 bucks. but still its my opinion.

Bro as i said above the shell advance ultra is just not worth the price since its just a semi synthetic oil being marketted as a synthetic. While the motul 300v is a pure synthetic oil as it is made out from ester which is a group 5 base stock. Hence the high price.

Other REAL synthectic oil out there is agip 4t racing since it is made out of group 4 base stock and hence qualifies as a synthetic. Its cheap too (some 620 bucks)

[Mzee_Maverik]

I would rather consider the shell advance ultra as a semi synthetic oil since it is a blend of esters and mineral oil.

Bro as i said above the shell advance ultra is just not worth the price since its just a semi synthetic oil being marketted as a synthetic. While the motul 300v is a pure synthetic oil as it is made out from ester which is a group 5 base stock. Hence the high price.

Other REAL synthectic oil out there is agip 4t racing since it is made out of group 4 base stock and hence qualifies as a synthetic. Its cheap too (some 620 bucks)

are you sure???
because i have used both AX7(SS) and ultra(FS) and the difference is huge in terms of performance...

[Nigen]

Has anyone in the forum managed to get hold of Motul 5100 10W40 ? I have been searching for it, but I couldn't get one

I'm still awaiting an answer for this. Could anybody respond

[deville_56]

I'm still awaiting an answer for this. Could anybody respond

I bought 10W40 January of this year, but it was from 2008 lot. Now only 15W50 is available.

[Nigen]

I bought 10W40 January of this year, but it was from 2008 lot. Now only 15W50 is available.

Did you ask the dealer if he would be able to get the 10W40 again ?

[pioneeraron]

I would rather consider the shell advance ultra as a semi synthetic oil since it is a blend of esters and mineral oil.

Bro as i said above the shell advance ultra is just not worth the price since its just a semi synthetic oil being marketted as a synthetic. While the motul 300v is a pure synthetic oil as it is made out from ester which is a group 5 base stock. Hence the high price.

Other REAL synthectic oil out there is agip 4t racing since it is made out of group 4 base stock and hence qualifies as a synthetic. Its cheap too (some 620 bucks)

+100 to madhav.

The shell advance ultra is a higly refined mineral oil(group 4) and then added additives in it.It's only marketed as fully synthetic oil while its semi synthetic in nature.I've been using this oil in my classic cbz till date 2200kms done.Engine feels super smooth sumtimes and sumtimes really ruff.The price tag doesnt justify this oil, 700/- is too much.My mechanic advised me to change the oil asap.I'll drain it after 150kms and pour the Motul 7100 And i really doubt whether shell has been using Ester technology in their oils!

[andrei79]

Best motorcycle oil for pulsar (135ls ,200,220)

Hey guys im anthony from philippines just want to ask what motorcycle oil you are using for your pulsar 135LS, 180 , 220 all are 20w50 oil user please share the experience about the performance, review Thanks and more power

[Noor]

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[satyajitrc]

Friends,

Riding a ZMR since May-2010.
Used the stock 10W30 HH Engine Oil till 10,000 kms.
But had to change almost every 1200-1500 kms.
Since there were engine vibes, gear change problems et all.

With advice from a fellow member in Kolkata changed to Motul Semi Synthetic Oil.
Started using Motul 15W50 Semi Synthetic Engine Oil after that.
Though GEAR shifting improved considerably along with less frequency of Oil Change and vibes were also reduced.

But observed that the top speed got reduced along with the mileage too dropped.

Planning to change to 10W30 Full Synthetic Engine Oil from HONDA for Rs 504/- per litre.

Will that be a good idea??
Heard that it is quite better but I guess the price to be quite less
Or may be I should think for some other alternatives.

Primarily I ride entirely in City traffic of Kolkata. (40kms to & fro)
Occasional touring or long rides of non stop 100 km once in a quarter.

Now completed 19000 kms till today.

Some ideas, suggestions & brick bats are welcome.

Meanwhile will be heading for SVC next week for Chain & Sprocket change along with Clutch Plate change.

[Honda_CBF]

Friends,

Riding a ZMR since May-2010.
Used the stock 10W30 HH Engine Oil till 10,000 kms.
But had to change almost every 1200-1500 kms.
Since there were engine vibes, gear change problems et all.

With advice from a fellow member in Kolkata changed to Motul Semi Synthetic Oil.
Started using Motul 15W50 Semi Synthetic Engine Oil after that.
Though GEAR shifting improved considerably along with less frequency of Oil Change and vibes were also reduced.

But observed that the top speed got reduced along with the mileage too dropped.

Planning to change to 10W30 Full Synthetic Engine Oil from HONDA for Rs 504/- per litre.

Will that be a good idea??
Heard that it is quite better but I guess the price to be quite less
Or may be I should think for some other alternatives.

Primarily I ride entirely in City traffic of Kolkata. (40kms to & fro)
Occasional touring or long rides of non stop 100 km once in a quarter.

Now completed 19000 kms till today.

Some ideas, suggestions & brick bats are welcome.

Meanwhile will be heading for SVC next week for Chain & Sprocket change along with Clutch Plate change.

Use xxW40 oil, and dont take the 'xx' below 15. You'll be satisfied. Be it mineral or semi-synthetic.
If you wanna use FS then you've got only two options 10w40 or 15w50.
Can't comment on FS oils (haven't used one) but mineral oils from motul & gulf are really good.