Helmets

[Sird]

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LS2 Phobia Sucks and good for city riding only.


Reasons and other testing things coming by tomorrow.


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[krish2778]

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LS2 Phobia Sucks and good for city riding only.


Reasons and other testing things coming by tomorrow.


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I rather have a different opinion here bro, mine is almost 1.5 years old now, and the helmet has served me well, kept the wind noise to a bare minimum on speeds below 90kmph, above which there was wind noise, i think most helmets other than the big dogs have that problem, the padding quality is still top notch, no problem, I am not having any loose fitting problem too, the padding is kinda snug, I say kinda because, over the year of usage it is supposed to free a bit, but not to an extend that it wobbles around when i shake my head.

The only problem i faced was that, I had the problem with the tinted visor paint peeling off , and after a crash the lock holding the visor on the left side had a crack and that increased the wind noise too, but i changed that and it vanished. I changed both the visor and the lock mechanism. The lock mechanism costed me Rs250/- a pair. And the visor near 500Rs.

I had the plain visor of Daijya fixed, as the shop din have the ls2 plain visor in stock.



P.S: Guys, is there any difference in the quality of the daijya and ls2 visors ? Any difference in quality ??


Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[Sird]

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Ok so here what I noticed.

LS2 Phobia.
Build quality and design is absolutely price worthy.
The padding is of top quality.
Each mm of Visor is perfectly fit. Not even a bit of air leak.
And yes it does not moves with the Air flow till 80-90 and 100 with no air flow towards you.

For city ride, the helmet is definitely worthy.

Air flow, Wind noise according to speed.
Tested on Pulsar 220.
Bike riding position : Crouch on Tank.

As per speed :
80-90 : The air noise is not much and it's a good thing to ride on
90-100 : Noise Starts hitting your ear.
100-110 : Noise is still tolerable but yes hitting the ear drums continously.
110-120 : Feels like direct air going in Ear and you cannot hold it for long time
120-130 : Hard to ride in that position / speed with that wind in ears, wind noise and helmet going left & right even if you move your head a inch or two.
130-140 : Wind noise like no helmet (but no helmet is really more annoying, I'd done 134 in 2010 in my noobie days) and weird sounds hitting the ear drums.
140+ : Man ! It was some truck is honking next to me and I had to see RVM again & again.
Wind noise was at its best but the honk kind of noise due to over wind.


So I'm not saying the helmet sux.
It's a pretty decent helmet for its price.
Obviously the speed I mentioned hardly people go on that speed.

So it's just that if someone is going to be a router or revver..
Then Don't get this helmet or get the ear noise plugs too. !!

For city riders, its a good to go helmet helmet.

[MENTION=35815]krish2778[/MENTION]

Ya I've heard of people saying the Chrome finish peeling off.
Mine just got some scratches.
And most of them before of those flying stones that hit the visor while I'm riding.
And at that moment I feel so good that I'm wearing a helmet.

But the time I bought it the padding were proper fit but now have space for my fingers even.
Mate bcoz of over sweat in Mumbai the padding got affected.
Buying a Balaclava soon !


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[Sunnyside_up!]

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I rather have a different opinion here bro, mine is almost 1.5 years old now, and the helmet has served me well, kept the wind noise to a bare minimum on speeds below 90kmph, above which there was wind noise, i think most helmets other than the big dogs have that problem, the padding quality is still top notch, no problem, I am not having any loose fitting problem too, the padding is kinda snug, I say kinda because, over the year of usage it is supposed to free a bit, but not to an extend that it wobbles around when i shake my head.

The only problem i faced was that, I had the problem with the tinted visor paint peeling off , and after a crash the lock holding the visor on the left side had a crack and that increased the wind noise too, but i changed that and it vanished. I changed both the visor and the lock mechanism. The lock mechanism costed me Rs250/- a pair. And the visor near 500Rs.

I had the plain visor of Daijya fixed, as the shop din have the ls2 plain visor in stock.



P.S: Guys, is there any difference in the quality of the daijya and ls2 visors ? Any difference in quality ??


Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

i don't think so, since both helmets are made by the same company. In fact the models are very similar, that's why the visors are interchangeable!

[metaphoric.el]

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Ok so here what I noticed.

LS2 Phobia.
Build quality and design is absolutely price worthy.
The padding is of top quality.
Each mm of Visor is perfectly fit. Not even a bit of air leak.
And yes it does not moves with the Air flow till 80-90 and 100 with no air flow towards you.

For city ride, the helmet is definitely worthy.

Air flow, Wind noise according to speed.
Tested on Pulsar 220.
Bike riding position : Crouch on Tank.

As per speed :
80-90 : The air noise is not much and it's a good thing to ride on
90-100 : Noise Starts hitting your ear.
100-110 : Noise is still tolerable but yes hitting the ear drums continously.
110-120 : Feels like direct air going in Ear and you cannot hold it for long time
120-130 : Hard to ride in that position / speed with that wind in ears, wind noise and helmet going left & right even if you move your head a inch or two.
130-140 : Wind noise like no helmet (but no helmet is really more annoying, I'd done 134 in 2010 in my noobie days) and weird sounds hitting the ear drums.
140+ : Man ! It was some truck is honking next to me and I had to see RVM again & again.
Wind noise was at its best but the honk kind of noise due to over wind.


So I'm not saying the helmet sux.
It's a pretty decent helmet for its price.
Obviously the speed I mentioned hardly people go on that speed.

So it's just that if someone is going to be a router or revver..
Then Don't get this helmet or get the ear noise plugs too. !!

For city riders, its a good to go helmet helmet.

[MENTION=35815]krish2778[/MENTION]

Ya I've heard of people saying the Chrome finish peeling off.
Mine just got some scratches.
And most of them before of those flying stones that hit the visor while I'm riding.
And at that moment I feel so good that I'm wearing a helmet.

But the time I bought it the padding were proper fit but now have space for my fingers even.
Mate bcoz of over sweat in Mumbai the padding got affected.
Buying a Balaclava soon !


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I believe, Phobia is the same FF350 model which I am having/bought recently (Lunatic fringe) only the graphic differs, and true about the wind noise.
Felt quite a bit of noise at speeds 110-115kmph, didn't try beyond that.
But its pretty comfortable at speeds 80-90 with still some wind noise.
But the fact is, for the comfort/looks/safety, its kinda worth the price we pay for (the budget helmet).

Well.. honestly, i was expecting a lil better performance from the FF350, well that's just me being greedy..




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[Robin Stig]

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thanks bro i cleaned my visor yesterday evening with colin and it worked well

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I got the exact same helmet with the same visor about 4 days ago. I will be changing the visor as the paint has started to peel off and also it ismt suitable for night rides.

that strange i got this helmet 3 weeks back and i already did 430km trip with this helmet.the only problem im facing is stains and bug pasted on my visor.i also plan to buy plain visor for my night rides and the shop quoted 350rs.

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LS2 Phobia Sucks and good for city riding only.


Reasons and other testing things coming by tomorrow.


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wow bro you are expecting too much from this helmet.i clocked 105km/h on my friends cbr150r with this helmet and it performed well.if thats your bike showed in your avatar i think your a pretty revvvv hungry guy and you may look for helmets like arai.

[Sird]

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thanks bro i cleaned my visor yesterday evening with colin and it worked well

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that strange i got this helmet 3 weeks back and i already did 430km trip with this helmet.the only problem im facing is stains and bug pasted on my visor.i also plan to buy plain visor for my night rides and the shop quoted 350rs.

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wow bro you are expecting too much from this helmet.i clocked 105km/h on my friends cbr150r with this helmet and it performed well.if thats your bike showed in your avatar i think your a pretty revvvv hungry guy and you may look for helmets like arai.

See my post buddy.
I clearly mentioned the price thing.
For the price it comes, it's serving its purpose.
The 105km/h you mentioned.
For how much seconds you were on 105 ??
Must be in city ?
How was the wind flow ?
And how was your sitting position ?

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Imagine you're siting normally on bike and riding on 120-122.
And a heavy Air hits you and you feel even the bike is going left - right because of it.
Then you have to crouch to cut air and the wind noise at that time was unbearable.
That's what I mentioned a tourer guy should not buy this.

Please re-read my post completely.

And yes that's my pic in avatar.

P.S. : Do not use Colin as a daily purpose, you're chrome finish will loose the shine.

Ride Safe. !


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[Robin Stig]

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See my post buddy.
I clearly mentioned the price thing.
For the price it comes, it's serving its purpose.
The 105km/h you mentioned.
For how much seconds you were on 105 ??
Must be in city ?
How was the wind flow ?
And how was your sitting position ?

_______
Imagine you're siting normally on bike and riding on 120-122.
And a heavy Air hits you and you feel even the bike is going left - right because of it.
Then you have to crouch to cut air and the wind noise at that time was unbearable.
That's what I mentioned a tourer guy should not buy this.

Please re-read my post completely.

And yes that's my pic in avatar.

P.S. : Do not use Colin as a daily purpose, you're chrome finish will loose the shine.

Ride Safe. !


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i done 105km/h for 5minutes,i tested on express way,cross wind was terrible,full crouch

i read your second post bro and i agree everything you said about the wind noise the only thing i cant digest is that you said 'LS2 Phobia Sucks and good for city riding only'.i know people who tour on bikes like passion pro,platina,stunner who dont go above 110 so for them ls2 ff350 can handle both city and highway pretty well.a kind suggestion from my side is to gather information about a product before you buy it so you dont have to regret it later.

oh thanks for the suggestion bro i keep that in mind.

[Rakesh Rok]

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@xpranav before making my purchase, I have few questions to ask and don't feel bad if it repeated or not,
1. As you said, half open helmets aren't good, then why so many people buy them. . ?
2. Secondly nobody will ever ride a bike if they keep thinking they are going to fall down, is it right. . ?
3. I don't have a super bike, or at least an R15, i just ride a Honda Unicorn. . .
4. Again, if LS2 was recommended for everyone, then why don't Honda and Yamaha people offer them in their showrooms. . ? I have seen in both showrooms and also in Bajaj showrooms, they have either Studds or Steelbird, it's not just the price issue. . .
5. People in showrooms offer these helmets because they know it's reliable right, they don't just offer these because they make more profit and not care people. . .
6. Not everyone owns a LS2 or a THH or some other helmet which have ECE and DOT on them right. . ? So what's your take on these things. . ?

I liked TiH, LS2 (only little, that to without graphics) and also liked a Studds helmet which I saw in the Honda showroom of late. . . If the helmet is brought by the showroom itself then it should be a good one and also worthy one. . .

Cheers!!!

[Sunnyside_up!]

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I read this first with some amusement and then realised that Rakesh is serious, so I though I would pitch in with my two paise...... Comments in RED.

@xpranav before making my purchase, I have few questions to ask and don't feel bad if it repeated or not,
1. As you said, half open helmets aren't good, then why so many people buy them. . ? Stupidity is an endemic disease. There are even more people who do not wear a helmet at all. That does not make them right.
2. Secondly nobody will ever ride a bike if they keep thinking they are going to fall down, is it right. . ? Wrong. Being scared means that you will be more alert. EVERYTIME I get on a bike I assume I'm going to crash, so I check my gear twice before heading out. Also find myself keeping my eyes peeled and my other senses on high alert. Been doing that for almost 30 years. Thanks to God I'm still riding.
3. I don't have a super bike, or at least an R15, i just ride a Honda Unicorn. . . My younger brother died of head injuries on a 100cc bike. True story.
4. Again, if LS2 was recommended for everyone, then why don't Honda and Yamaha people offer them in their showrooms. . ? I have seen in both showrooms and also in Bajaj showrooms, they have either Studds or Steelbird, it's not just the price issue. . . It is entirely the price issue. I work with a company that sells imported helmets all over India. Most people do not stock them because the target market for better products is smaller than the mass appeal (cheaper) products.
5. People in showrooms offer these helmets because they know it's reliable right, they don't just offer these because they make more profit and not care people. . . You my friend have a lot of growing up to do. It is ALWAYS about money, especially at these commercial establishments. I can tell you some horror stories about how some unscrupulous people are literally gambling with the lives of the common rider. Offline.
6. Not everyone owns a LS2 or a THH or some other helmet which have ECE and DOT on them right. . ? So what's your take on these things. . ? You're absolutely right - you can also wear a scooped out watermelon like the ad on TV to get past the cops. Your brothers on the forum do not benefit in any way by advising you. They simply wanted to share what they have learnt. It is entirely your choice whether you want to follow their advice or not. The right to remain uneducated is also guaranteed by the constitution.

I liked TiH, LS2 (only little, that to without graphics) and also liked a Studds helmet which I saw in the Honda showroom of late. . . If the helmet is brought by the showroom itself then it should be a good one and also worthy one. . . Refer my response to point no. 5 .

Cheers!!!

[prateek2210]

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1. As you said, half open helmets aren't good, then why so many people buy them. . ?
2. Secondly nobody will ever ride a bike if they keep thinking they are going to fall down, is it right. . ?
3. I don't have a super bike, or at least an R15, i just ride a Honda Unicorn. . .
4. Again, if LS2 was recommended for everyone, then why don't Honda and Yamaha people offer them in their showrooms. . ? I have seen in both showrooms and also in Bajaj showrooms, they have either Studds or Steelbird, it's not just the price issue. . .
5. People in showrooms offer these helmets because they know it's reliable right, they don't just offer these because they make more profit and not care people. . .
6. Not everyone owns a LS2 or a THH or some other helmet which have ECE and DOT on them right. . ? So what's your take on these things. . ?

Why so much hulaboo on getting a helmet? You asked us the options, we gave it. Now its upto you what and why you want.
Answering your questions now :
1) Because every helmet serves different purpose and most of the "commuters", dont know the actual use of helmet.
2) That does not guarantee that you will never fall, no one is "perfect".
3) When did bike became proportional to the helmet? *Facepalm*
4) Do you know that selling a helmet is mandatory with every bike, and they are doing "business" and what better to earn profit from India based helmet companies.
5) Answered in 4)
6) Choice is personal matter, LS2 and THH falls in your price bracket, thats why we recommended you those, increase your budget and get Arai or Shoei, no one is going to stop you.

Now I hope your next post would be with the pic of helmet of your choice and I hope all your doubts are cleared.

[Rakesh Rok]

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@Sunnyside_up! and @prateek2210 got my answers and as you said prateek i'll reply back with the helmet pics and to be true, I am not blabbing for getting a helmet or thinking too much to spend on a helmet because how much ever I spend, it's for my safety, just asked as many of those prefer our Indian made helmets too, that's it. . .

Cheers!!!

[princesirohi]

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@xpranav before making my purchase, I have few questions to ask and don't feel bad if it repeated or not,1. As you said, half open helmets aren't good, then why so many people buy them. . ?2. Secondly nobody will ever ride a bike if they keep thinking they are going to fall down, is it right. . ?3. I don't have a super bike, or at least an R15, i just ride a Honda Unicorn. . .4. Again, if LS2 was recommended for everyone, then why don't Honda and Yamaha people offer them in their showrooms. . ? I have seen in both showrooms and also in Bajaj showrooms, they have either Studds or Steelbird, it's not just the price issue. . .5. People in showrooms offer these helmets because they know it's reliable right, they don't just offer these because they make more profit and not care people. . .6. Not everyone owns a LS2 or a THH or some other helmet which have ECE and DOT on them right. . ? So what's your take on these things. . ?I liked TiH, LS2 (only little, that to without graphics) and also liked a Studds helmet which I saw in the Honda showroom of late. . . If the helmet is brought by the showroom itself then it should be a good one and also worthy one. . .Cheers!!!

my answers--

(4) Studds and steelbird are ISI approved helmets, whereas imported ones like LS2, CROSS etc are not. and in india you need an ISI approved helmet. even SOL is not an ISI approved one, i guess.

(6) an ISI approved helmet is adequate to protect your head. ofcourse you can buy costly helmets -(1) if they claim that they are certified to better standards. (2) and if you believe them that they are actually tested (3) and if you feel that you are not buying a duplicate product with just a fancy design.

i have seen quality control flaws in LS2 & CROSS, serious ones, but never in a studds helmet. they are cheap, effective and VFM.

although my last CROSS helmet was stolen and i am going to buy an LS2 this week, but that is just for wind noise and aerodynamic stability, moreover now i have sufficient knowledge to thoroughly check the helmet for any quality related flaws.

just ask the shop owner/dealer/distributor/owner etc... if these are companies are so serious of doing business in india, what is stopping them from getting an ISI certification...??

[xpranav]

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i have seen quality control flaws in LS2 & CROSS, serious ones, but never in a studds helmet. they are cheap, effective and VFM.

kindly share a few pics (if avlb) and your experience, it will be surely a learning experience for me

moreover now i have sufficient knowledge to thoroughly check the helmet for any quality related flaws.

Please provide a brief check list of the points.

just ask the shop owner/dealer/distributor/owner etc... if these are companies are so serious of doing business in india, what is stopping them from getting an ISI certification...??

Wooooopss !! .............. kindly extend your words on this specifically if you have come across anything

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i'll reply back with the helmet pics

Roger That .................. Now don't you dare to show up on the thread without one (Joking)

[Sunnyside_up!]

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Again my comments in RED.

my answers--

(4) Studds and steelbird are ISI approved helmets, whereas imported ones like LS2, CROSS etc are not. and in india you need an ISI approved helmet. even SOL is not an ISI approved one, i guess. That is NOT true. Helmets are not under the BIS Mandatory certification list. See here - http://www.bis.org.in/cert/man.pdf. Also helmet laws vary from state to state and therefore it is next to impossible to enforce. That's why all motorcycle showrooms don't sell helmets.

(6) an ISI approved helmet is adequate to protect your head. ofcourse you can buy costly helmets -(1) if they claim that they are certified to better standards. (2) and if you believe them that they are actually tested (3) and if you feel that you are not buying a duplicate product with just a fancy design. Absolutely true. But if you can have a standard better than the ISI, which by the way is also full of fake labelling, why not use that?

i have seen quality control flaws in LS2 & CROSS, serious ones, but never in a studds helmet. they are cheap, effective and VFM. I have seen defects on ALL brands, including Arai, and my experience is that the cheaper you go down the chain, the more defects crop up, simply because they cannot afford proper quality control.

although my last CROSS helmet was stolen and i am going to buy an LS2 this week, but that is just for wind noise and aerodynamic stability, moreover now i have sufficient knowledge to thoroughly check the helmet for any quality related flaws.

just ask the shop owner/dealer/distributor/owner etc... if these are companies are so serious of doing business in india, what is stopping them from getting an ISI certification...??

The fact that it is not mandatory by law to have an ISI certification to import and sell makes the question moot. The moment that it does become mandatory, everyone will!