Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[thebiker2k2]

So ultimately somebody from xBhp found out about the ViaTerra "Claw".

I am one of the guys involved with ViaTerra. The Claw is our latest product that has been launched just a few days back.



The Claw was designed keeping the needs of the Solo Long Distance rider in mind.

Initially developed for bikes like the CBR 150R/250R, R15, 200 Duke, 200NS.. the Claw actually fits on ANY made in India bike.. and even fits on most imported bikes.

Hope this does not sound as advertisement on xBhp but for anyone eager to know more about ViaTerra, here are the weblinks to ViaTerra site: VIATERRA and our Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/viaterra.gear

Great to see that we have someone from Via Terra team here on Xbhp I would like to check the bag in person before buying. Do you have some dealer/shop in Delhi/NCR where I can check it out and try it on the bike ?

[Sunnyside_up!]

So ultimately somebody from xBhp found out about the ViaTerra "Claw".

I am one of the guys involved with ViaTerra. The Claw is our latest product that has been launched just a few days back.



The Claw was designed keeping the needs of the Solo Long Distance rider in mind.

Initially developed for bikes like the CBR 150R/250R, R15, 200 Duke, 200NS.. the Claw actually fits on ANY made in India bike.. and even fits on most imported bikes.

Hope this does not sound as advertisement on xBhp but for anyone eager to know more about ViaTerra, here are the weblinks to ViaTerra site: VIATERRA and our Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/viaterra.gear

Congratulations and best wishes on your new venture. Looks like some serious thought went into the products!

[payeng]

Great to see that we have someone from Via Terra team here on Xbhp I would like to check the bag in person before buying. Do you have some dealer/shop in Delhi/NCR where I can check it out and try it on the bike ?

Thanks bro.. But I'd not like to take advantage of xBhp as a platform to promote our business. It would better to interact with us on our Facebook page.

Congratulations and best wishes on your new venture. Looks like some serious thought went into the products!

A lot of Passion.. our own Experience and Expectation as bikers.. and the drive to be innovative has gone in to our products and in whatever we do.

[princesirohi]

@ Payeng: nice effort and nice products.. i have a specific query, are your saddlebags suitable for CBR250R, kindly have a look at this page-->

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/17988-honda-cbr-250r-1086.html

here bbsrailfan has installed studds penniers, my question is will your saddle bag fit over penniers so that one can have lockable items in penniers and then saddlebags over them.




has anybody used PGS riding gears, jackets particularly, i am interested in model:2328-camouflage, any reviews available..???

PGS BIKING GEARS DELHI, INDIA

[Kunwar.g]

Universal : Riding Gears Thread

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has anybody used PGS riding gears, jackets particularly, i am interested in model:2328-camouflage, any reviews available..???

PGS BIKING GEARS DELHI, INDIA

I had inquired and googled the same, there is no info online. Though they claim to use really good stuff, but not sure why no-one has any comments on them. Also do some negotiation and you will get 10% off surely. I have bought their knee guards and they are really good.


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[B7ACKTHORN]

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Here are the pics of my Spartan Helios Jacket ( Black ) . I have purchased it with KNOX shoulder & elbow armor. The back armor is the basic one which i have got with the jacket, i haven,t upgraded it to KNOX as it costs Rs 1200/- but the basic back armor that came with jacket is very light and good. I don't know how to remove it out as it has got stitches all around it so dint felt like risking as the inside material is very light and may prone to tear if i force it hard.

The jacket is really serving good and the ventilation is superb and it is the best part of the jacket i can say. The internal 100% waterproof pocket serves well in storing mobiles while riding and to the right there is another pocket where you can store your sun glasses or your wallet and it has got 2 more pockets outside of the jacket for storing .

Haven't got any chance still to test the rain liner, so cant review it.

But the sad part is, its really not so easy to remove the KNOX armor from inside the jacket you need to do it carefully as you may prone to tear the inside thin material of the jacket. I already did it, so be cautious while removing the armor and the best thing about the KNOX armor is it fits well and is very flexible never felt poking sensation :P. **I felt the jacket would be really good if the inside material is built of more better quality** this is the only remark i have about the jacket.

The reflective piping is superb, i saw many people staring at me when i zoom in at nights and the jacket is so stylish that if you are at a traffic signal surely people will turn their heads towards you.

^^^** Be cautious if you are ordering it online. Coz the waist line of the jacket is not loose like dsg nero and other jackets, So if you have big belly choose the next size. **^^^ LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUERIES

Crisp pics Sandeep. Appreciated and helped a lot

Hey buddy,

Two Things -

1. I mistakenly read/thought that you had the other THOR guards, the Quadrant, which I have. My bad!
I've used the Quadrant for off-road under riding pants and they work very well. The Sector looks similar so I'm assuming they would function as well.

2. These kind of knee guards are meant to be used under pants only - not over, since they do not have a top strap at the thigh above the knee. If worn over the pants, they risk peeling back in a crash and exposing your knee, making them useless. So please take the time to wear them under!

Also, please remember that all these kinds of knee guards are primarily designed and meant for off-roading, where speeds rarely exceed 40-60kmph. (I suppose they could serve for slower city commutes too.) They are not meant for higher speeds and I've crashed twice where they've simply ripped off in the fall, since the elastic straps could not take the slide. If you prefer separate armour, I would strongly recommend the ForceField Limb Tubes or their equivalent, though nothing beats dedicated riding pants.



In this case, you get what you pay for and trust me, there is simply no comparison between the build quality of the two. That said, I've crashed in a Cramster too, (low speed - in the city) and they've done the job! So if you're looking for a hassle free solution to wear over the pants in the city, the Cramsters will serve too but not for a high speed highway ride IMO.

Another problem with bionic type armour is they scratch my tank.

A general point to be noted is that these kinds of plastic armour is meant primarily for low speed impact protection and abrasion injury. The foam that they use is meant more for rider comfort (to prevent the plastic from cutting into your skin) than actual impact absorption. Much better are the PU or Nitrile type armours which are designed for high speed impact absorption and dispersion which no plastic armour can absorb. Hitting your knee on the pavement at high speed with plastic armour may save your skin but not your bones, since plastic has no impact absorption capacity at all. The PU/Nitrile impact absorptive/dispersive type gives you a much better chance of keeping both skin and bones intact.

TeeJayy - I hope this helps.

Armours used in apparel are of various types. Broadly they are

1. Hard Armour - (also popularly referred to as GP armour). High tech honeycombed PE structures with shock absorbing foam compounds. Unfortunately, this is very rare and found only in specialty products and are very expensive. Many cheap and highly dubious knockoffs are available, while some are just downright silly. Below is a picture taken from a jacket with this kind of "armour".

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As you can see the "armour" consists of a thin piece of plastic, which has a layer of foam stitched to it so that the rough edges of the cheap plastic will not cut the wearer. The foam is about 5mm thick. With this kind of material, I would be worried about the plastic shattering on impact and having jagged pieces of plastic stuck to the wimpy foam ready to cut me further.

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2. Dual Density Foam - This is a moulded foam armour which uses different densities of foam in order to achieve some level of impact absorption. Typically uses multi-coloured foam stuck together to differentiate the layers. Here is a picture.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]91241[/ATTACH] This kind of armour is found in lightweight apparel and also very light. The flip side is that being just plain foam, we cannot expect too much by way of impact absorption. Approximately 9mm thick and very, very cheap and easy to replicate. Think the kind of foam used in those lightweight Hawaii chappals and you will be pretty close.

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3. PU ( Polyurethane ) Armour - sometimes called 'turtle' armour because of its shape and the company that first developed it - this is a moulded component armour that is made from elastomeric polyurethane which has excellent impact and shock absorbent properties. They are not easy to make and hence difficult to replicate (meaning less fakes). Many motorcycling apparel companies all over the world use this type of armour as a standard today, sourced from commercial armour manufacturers. Basically the kind of PU used, the thickness and density will ensure that the component meets impact protection standards and are so easier to trust. Here's a picture.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]91243[/ATTACH] Note that the armour will also sport information regarding the standard it follows, the area it is meant to protect (S-Shoulder/E-Elbow/K-Knee) and the Type A or B. The Type A armour is the smaller and thinner and meant for smaller sizes, (women and smaller men), while the Type B is thickest and offers the largest coverage, meant for regular mens sizes. The Type B measures about 15mm thick .

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Obviously there is simply no comparison between the toy-like plastic "armour" and the PU armour. Here is a pic of them both side by side - you tell me which one you would prefer in your jacket or pants ?

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4. Visco-Elastomeric Composite Armour - These are the top of the line type of armour available today. Made of unique and proprietary chemical compounds, these armours use cutting edge molecular technology to achieve high levels of impact protection and dispersion, often exceeding the CE standards by 30 -40% . These are the types used by the leading motorcycling apparel brands in the world today. Made by specialist companies like Sas-Tec, Knox and D3O, these are the most trusted products available. They measure about 17mm thick for the Type B.

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5. Nitrile Armour - These armours are made of Nitrile Rubber, woven into complex shapes and matrix, designed to allow impact to be distributed over a larger area, thereby aiding impact resistance. These are proprietary and specialist technologies and products and the most famous of them is ForceField also called TPro. These products are made into different kind of protectors and are also very difficult to imitate or fake. These products are comparable to the Composite Armour mentioned above and also offer superb and class leading performance. Here is a picture. They are slightly thinner than composites since they use a unique contruction methods but are slightly heavier than the composite armours.


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I have taken snap-shots of the various types of armour available from different jackets and pants that I own and use so please excuse the photography! I hope that this will help clear the confusion and throw some light on the various products that are available in the market today.

Forgive me one more quote, but it'd be a remiss if I haven't have done it so. EXCELLENTLY narrated, simple piece of info made even simple. Kudos

Cheers!
VJ

[HellsFury]

I currently own a pair of DSG Revive gloves and while these are perfect for city riding, I would prefer a pair of full gauntlets for touring. Went through planetdsg.com and found that they have the following 3 models:


1. Carbon
2. Primal
3. Vector (I do not prefer this as I do not want white color gloves)


Now between the Carbon and Primal I was not really able to figure out which was the better pair by reading the descriptions. Can anyone who has used or seen both tell me the differences between them?


Or if there are other options in the same price range, would be happy to know about them too.

[B7ACKTHORN]

I currently own a pair of DSG Revive gloves and while these are perfect for city riding, I would prefer a pair of full gauntlets for touring. Went through planetdsg.com and found that they have the following 3 models:

1. Carbon
2. Primal
3. Vector (I do not prefer this as I do not want white color gloves)

Now between the Carbon and Primal I was not really able to figure out which was the better pair by reading the descriptions. Can anyone who has used or seen both tell me the differences between them?

Or if there are other options in the same price range, would be happy to know about them too.

This question has been battled a lot of times mate. Taking into consideration both Carbon and Primal fall in the same category, Primal has seen some really good reviews and some of my buddies use them too. Personally didn't like the Carbon's gauntlet styling. Primal is a serious looking okay-ish glove.

Cheers!
VJ

[pgaucha]

@Sunny sir, thanks for the detailed review. Now i can get a insight into what each armor type does it job to its extent.But sadly, Indian Motorists are yet to give importance for the gears where roads are becoming a dangerous pathway for injuries. And your post clearly depicts the availability of standard Knee guard is very poor.

[princesirohi]

@ Payeng: nice effort and nice products.. i have a specific query, are your saddlebags suitable for CBR250R, kindly have a look at this page-->http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...250r-1086.html here bbsrailfan has installed studds penniers, my question is will your saddle bag fit over penniers so that one can have lockable items in penniers and then saddlebags over them.has anybody used PGS riding gears, jackets particularly, i am interested in model:2328-camouflage, any reviews available..??? PGS BIKING GEARS DELHI, INDIA

has anybody used PGS jacket..??

[B7ACKTHORN]

has anybody used PGS jacket..??

If my memory serves me right, I think I've never seen a single soul here using a PGS jacket for which I am waiting for someone to purchase it. But given the brand impact other brands have created, I don't think you ought to see PGS much. But still fingers crossed.

Cheers!
VJ

[princesirohi]

same here bro... the reason i am interested in PGS jacket is CE: EN-1621-2 approved armours, whereas all others available in india are EN-1621-1 approved, and EN-1621-2 is better protection. and also the back protector is mentioned as 8 MM whereas all others in india are much less thick, and some even are 2-3 MM thick.

[B7ACKTHORN]

same here bro... the reason i am interested in PGS jacket is CE: EN-1621-2 approved armours, whereas all others available in india are EN-1621-1 approved, and EN-1621-2 is better protection. and also the back protector is mentioned as 8 MM whereas all others in india are much less thick, and some even are 2-3 MM thick.

Yes you are absolutely right. 8mm is definitely thick and offers good protection, but what's inside the jacket is yet to be seen.

Cheers!
VJ

[princesirohi]

one more thing, how to ensure that it is actually CE certified, i mean somebody can put a CE certified stamp, without even testing it and getting certified. is there a test certificate..??i am more doubtful because of its Delhi origins.

[prateek2210]

has anybody used PGS jacket..??

My friend using it, no certification found but the guards are "strong", would still say to have a look into "brands"