Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[Manan]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Did you shoot a mail to their customer service folks? Usually they reply to mails, and if you can call them directly from their website, they can even help you some other retailers in your town.



I'd suggest go for something with liner when you spend so much premium on an A* jacket. Both TGP Plus Air and Fending doesn't have an add on liner at that price point. If you like these three then I'd suggest the RJays as it has a liner and it's pretty much cheaper and running on discount if I am not wrong. The add on liner will act as dual purpose rain liner and offer good wind protection with the liner on with the jacket. I'd suggest go for Rjays if you like it.



The jacket your considering is MotoX cross jackets which are plasticy, bulky and offer no high speed impact protection whatsoever. MotoX gears are completely different from proper full fledged street spec gear.

And good jacket will set you back at 5k minimum
A good knee guard 2.5k
A good glove (starting at) 2.5k or even upwards in some brands.
A good helmet 5000 and above.
And a riding pant upwards for 5.5k
And a riding boot 4k and above.

This is how you're supposed to gear up.

Cheers!
VJ

Holy!!!
*faint*
Well looks like another year of scrounging funds for the gear.
to be sure, such motor cross armor would be effective up to how much speed? I understand that in case of a high speed crash[160-200 kmph] such would peel off correct?
Well till then it would be funny to see a person on a cbr with a denim jacket ncc boots and a standard [aka common helmet] and genuine leather gloves roaming around.
Still how far can the motorcross gear in terms of speed be effective? I am not a racer, in case I do, well I do know the consequences.

In addition cramster in cunningham road [smart pig] would have a range of the street spec gears correct? ad can you please tell me any indian operating brands where I look up the prices on the net, please?

Thanks
Manan

[hunkofgals]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Did you shoot a mail to their customer service folks? Usually they reply to mails, and if you can call them directly from their website, they can even help you some other retailers in your town.



I'd suggest go for something with liner when you spend so much premium on an A* jacket. Both TGP Plus Air and Fending doesn't have an add on liner at that price point. If you like these three then I'd suggest the RJays as it has a liner and it's pretty much cheaper and running on discount if I am not wrong. The add on liner will act as dual purpose rain liner and offer good wind protection with the liner on with the jacket. I'd suggest go for Rjays if you like it.

Cheers!
VJ

Ok so there is no liner means I can't use the jacket in winter to cheat the cold wind .
So as u ruled out alpinestars,

Other than rjays any other reputed branded jacket in that 6-7k range ?

Any idea of komine jackets
??


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[DeVille]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Did you shoot a mail to their customer service folks? Usually they reply to mails, and if you can call them directly from their website, they can even help you some other retailers in your town.


And good jacket will set you back at 5k minimum
A good knee guard 2.5k
A good glove (starting at) 2.5k or even upwards in some brands.
A good helmet 5000 and above.
And a riding pant upwards for 5.5k
And a riding boot 4k and above.

This is how you're supposed to gear up.

Cheers!
VJ

Just to offer a different perspective on Cramster, their retailer in M'bai- Adventure18 was pretty good when I visited. I had called them to ask directions and told them I was coming to check jackets. When I went, the manager said he was preparin to shut but stayed back after I had called, despite being unsure if I would buy anything (I didnt). They were quite helpful and patient while I went about checking all gear for >30 mins and then left empty-handed

@VJ- Think you've taken slightly higher entry-prices. For example-most gloves from DSG, Spartan and Rynox will cost 2000- 2500



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[shahbaz63]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Cramster retailer in Mumbai, OTG are very much kind & responsive, we have been there quite a lot of time & still they always respond in a same manner ...infact when last time we wants to get a Jacket for us, and as we will be coming after office time we had requested them to keep there shop open beyond 7pm till 8pm or little more & they agreed ...

[katoom]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Hey guys,

What's the weight of any normal mesh style riding jacket? I need to know if the product i'm ordering is too heavy!

Thanks

[bbsrailfan]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] and others... well, initial impressions are the ones that last.
I went to buy my kneeguards, they were closed. Revisited them twice to get it.
I went to buy a jacket, they are closed. Bought my jacket elsewhere, so I wouldn't be going back to them for a jacket anyways.
I went to buy a pair of gloves - and again the same thing! Very honestly speaking, a customer out to buy a product wouldn't wait for a store owner/management to finish their tea break/whatever reason they have. If a shop is closed, a buyer will certainly look at the next shop. I can understand a one-off case, but, everytime?

And good jacket will set you back at 5k minimum
A good knee guard 2.5k
A good glove (starting at) 2.5k or even upwards in some brands.
A good helmet 5000 and above.
And a riding pant upwards for 5.5k
And a riding boot 4k and above.

@Manan, let's make it a bit more practical, if that list looked too expensive!

The 'bare' minimum essentials:
Jacket - Minimum 5.5k for a riding jacket. Nothing below that price.
Glove - Expect minimum 1500-2000 for *decent* gloves. Scoycos cost around 800 and are okay types. Avoid ProBiker and Knighthood.
Helmet - LS2 or Studds Scorpion at least. Budget - 2000-2500.
Knee guard - Cramster kneeguards are decent enough at 1500. Better than Fox.

Others:
Riding pant - though no mandatory, very good to have one. Starts at 5k, so you can invest in pants later if you are short on budget.
Riding boot - Again, you can stick to Woodlands/Army boots for the time being and upgrade when you have the moolah!

[TeeJayy]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Holy!!!
*faint*
Well looks like another year of scrounging funds for the gear.
to be sure, such motor cross armor would be effective up to how much speed? I understand that in case of a high speed crash[160-200 kmph] such would peel off correct?
Well till then it would be funny to see a person on a cbr with a denim jacket ncc boots and a standard [aka common helmet] and genuine leather gloves roaming around.
Still how far can the motorcross gear in terms of speed be effective? I am not a racer, in case I do, well I do know the consequences.

In addition cramster in cunningham road [smart pig] would have a range of the street spec gears correct? ad can you please tell me any indian operating brands where I look up the prices on the net, please?

Thanks
Manan

No riding gear can be a fool proof safety mechanism if u crash at 160 - 200 kmph. High speeds which VJ was referring to is anything beyond 80kmph maybe. Plus, motoX armor wont provide any abrasion resistance.

Further, pls dont go for riding gear cos you wont look good on CBR otherwise. The only reason to go for riding gear is to be prepared when you take a fall. I remember @Sunnyside_up! saying that a crash at 60kmph is enough to burn the 3rd layer of your skin, that should amply stress the importance of riding gear.
You may try
spartanprogear.com
planetdsg.com
bachoomotors.com
performanceracing.in

for brands other than Cramster.

Just to offer a different perspective on Cramster, their retailer in M'bai- Adventure18 was pretty good when I visited. I had called them to ask directions and told them I was coming to check jackets. When I went, the manager said he was preparin to shut but stayed back after I had called, despite being unsure if I would buy anything (I didnt). They were quite helpful and patient while I went about checking all gear for >30 mins and then left empty-handed

Hey buddy,

I have quite a contrary experience at the Cramster store in Bangalore. My case was the other way round. I requested them on phone to stay back for 10 mins past the scheduled closure time to which they agreed. When I reached there within that time the store was closed!

[B7ACKTHORN]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Hey guys,

What's the weight of any normal mesh style riding jacket? I need to know if the product i'm ordering is too heavy!

Thanks

There is no set weight for any jacket whatsoever. A jacket's weight depends on the material it uses and the armor it uses, which makes a big difference in the weight of the jackets. But if you're not sure what type of jacket you want, the best idea would be try them personally.

Ok so there is no liner means I can't use the jacket in winter to cheat the cold wind .
So as u ruled out alpinestars,

Other than rjays any other reputed branded jacket in that 6-7k range ?

Any idea of komine jackets
??

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You have Spartan, you have Cramster, you have DSG you have AGV, you have etc etc etc in riding gears. KOMINE jackets haven't personally seen any reviews of them here or neither have I seem them personally. They are a Japanese brand and going by their reviews, there aren't so good reaffirming reviews about KOMINE some say it's inferior some say it's okay-ish. But I think you wouldn't want to lean at KOMINE at least for the time being.

Go for RJays if you love it. I personally use their jackets and it's seen more than 8k KMS and 2k KMS serious kick ass terrain riding, and still going strong,

@VJ- Think you've taken slightly higher entry-prices. For example-most gloves from DSG, Spartan and Rynox will cost 2000- 2500

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Holy!!!
*faint*
Well looks like another year of scrounging funds for the gear.
to be sure, such motor cross armor would be effective up to how much speed? I understand that in case of a high speed crash[160-200 kmph] such would peel off correct?
Well till then it would be funny to see a person on a cbr with a denim jacket ncc boots and a standard [aka common helmet] and genuine leather gloves roaming around.
Still how far can the motorcross gear in terms of speed be effective? I am not a racer, in case I do, well I do know the consequences.

In addition cramster in cunningham road [smart pig] would have a range of the street spec gears correct? ad can you please tell me any indian operating brands where I look up the prices on the net, please?

Thanks
Manan

@DeVille. Nothing in DSG leather costs you less than 2000 bucks and even in RYNOX gloves. There are textile gloves in DSG which cost 800 to 900 bucks which is pretty much useless for motorcycle riding. When you want to get the best of the gear (affordable ones) you need to have at least minimum 20k for basic stuffs without which I can vouch most of them have opted for. When you buy things separate one by one, you won't know much of a difference, but when you want to purchase all at one, the numbers look big.

Calculate it down to bits and pieces it tablulate more than what you expected.

@Manan, you are right, motocross apparel are basically pants and jackets with plastic armors and a helmet. You wouldn't wanna fall with that on a tarmac where you'd burn your flesh in a flash. Even these gears doesn't prove the fact that you're "100 safe" out there. All you can do is save the skin you lose or protect them for better.

You need to know one thing, not all guys who go in CBR know the importance of riding gear or the guy who is riding an Apache doesn't. Looks deceive... and they do a lot....

Remeber, hospital bills are far far far worse than a riding gear set.... And don't forget the mental turmoil too.... It's better to than better off.



Cheers!
VJ

[bbsrailfan]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

VJ...just thought of asking you as you are the expert on riding gears. How are S&S (Speed & Strength or something...can't remember perfectly) jackets? Saw one y'day and am kind of blown over...need one! Anybody selling them in India?

[thegeneboy]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

VJ...just thought of asking you as you are the expert on riding gears. How are S&S (Speed & Strength or something...can't remember perfectly) jackets? Saw one y'day and am kind of blown over...need one! Anybody selling them in India?

Thats mine buddy that you saw y'day .. The one I've is VFM and the back protector is maast.. But still I would suggest you to pick Spartan Helios (with Knox armor) which is available in India (Bangalore) itself..

Note: Speed & Strength is not sold/retailed in India.. I got mine from the US..

[hunkofgals]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

You have Spartan, you have Cramster, you have DSG you have AGV, you have etc etc etc in riding gears. KOMINE jackets haven't personally seen any reviews of them here or neither have I seem them personally. They are a Japanese brand and going by their reviews, there aren't so good reaffirming reviews about KOMINE some say it's inferior some say it's okay-ish. But I think you wouldn't want to lean at KOMINE at least for the time being.

Go for RJays if you love it. I personally use their jackets and it's seen more than 8k KMS and 2k KMS serious kick ass terrain riding, and still going strong,

Cheers!
VJ

ok , ill pick up the RJAYS swift then !!

any pointers on gloves
budget is 2k - 2.5k

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[bbsrailfan]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thats mine buddy that you saw y'day .. The one I've is VFM and the back protector is maast.. But still I would suggest you to pick Spartan Helios (with Knox armor) which is available in India (Bangalore) itself..

Note: Speed & Strength is not sold/retailed in India.. I got mine from the US..

[MENTION=19584]thegeneboy[/MENTION] Yes Eugene, you got me there!!! I was referring to your jacket only

My cramster is still going strong...was looking at the S&S purely for the drool factor! Not a fan of all blacks like the breezer/ helios/ nero


Had a look at RE riding gloves and they seem well built...what do u think? Any user reviews?

Tapatalk'd from my Nexus

[DeVille]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

@DeVille. Nothing in DSG leather costs you less than 2000 bucks and even in RYNOX gloves. There are textile gloves in DSG which cost 800 to 900 bucks which is pretty much useless for motorcycle riding. When you want to get the best of the gear (affordable ones) you need to have at least minimum 20k for basic stuffs without which I can vouch most of them have opted for. When you buy things separate one by one, you won't know much of a difference, but when you want to purchase all at one, the numbers look big.

Calculate it down to bits and pieces it tablulate more than what you expected.


Cheers!
VJ

I said 2000 - 2500 for leather gloves, not gauntlets. In fact below prices show that most VFM brands have all-leather gloves in that range....only if you're looking at full gauntlet, you'll have to stretch budgets.

DSG Revive - Rs. 2250 Gloves
Cramster Blaster - Rs. 2100 Cramster - Riding Gloves
Rjays Canyon - Rs. 2500 (discounted) Gloves - Bachoo Motors
SPG Pegasus - Rs. 2400 Spartan ProGear | Product

You can also check the other gloves in the links given.

We just discussed gloves about a few pages back in this thread, do have a look for a better idea.


Btw, VJ and Aytass ... have a look at the Rjays link. The Cobra gloves are back it seems, though not in my budget for a first glove I surely can't stretch for the gauntlet.

[B7ACKTHORN]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

VJ...just thought of asking you as you are the expert on riding gears. How are S&S (Speed & Strength or something...can't remember perfectly) jackets? Saw one y'day and am kind of blown over...need one! Anybody selling them in India?

Oh please, please, please don't call me an expert and for some reason when I hear that I feel so mad at myself. Am still just a noob like you guys,

There isn't branded Speed and Strength retailers that I know of. But you have Joe Rocket and AGV check out below

Thats mine buddy that you saw y'day .. The one I've is VFM and the back protector is maast.. But still I would suggest you to pick Spartan Helios (with Knox armor) which is available in India (Bangalore) itself..

Note: Speed & Strength is not sold/retailed in India.. I got mine from the US..

Yes Speed and Strength, and geneboy I saw your jacket, pretty good. But I just didn't like the crazy decals, but other than that the jacket is really good. The RJays Octane too had similar build if I remember correctly. But the AGV really stands out and both Joe Rocket and AGV apparel are sold by PRS Performance Racing Store. Though costly all their stuffs are 100% branded and genuine stuff and they know what they are talking about when it comes to gear.

Just give them a try.

ok , ill pick up the RJAYS swift then !!

any pointers on gloves
budget is 2k - 2.5k

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Great choice. 2.5K you best bet should be DSG REVIVE, Spartan PEGASUS RYNOX KOMBAT or RJays Canyon if you can up your budget a little bit. And almost all of Cramster gear fall in the 2.5k range.

Cheers!
VJ

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Btw, VJ and Aytass ... have a look at the Rjays link. The Cobra gloves are back it seems, though not in my budget for a first glove I surely can't stretch for the gauntlet.

RJays have refreshed their Cobra gloves and I they have two versions of the Carbon Cobra I and Carbon Cobra II and the old one is (Cobra I which I have) but the old is priced a little higher than the new one. They have it listed on their site, and it's been there for ages. And I think if you remember, I remember replying to one of your post the same. RJays have numerous products on their WEBSITE, but think of purchasing them in AU dollars, you'd be BLASTED of you moolah in no time.

Bachoo Motors are the guys who resell them, for the most part. And I think they ain't reselling the gloves and most jackets listed in their website, which they listed quite a while back, say around a year or two. Now I have no idea why they aren't importing that glove back and trust me RJays still has a pretty good following here.

Forgive me I didn't see your post. Hope it's merged.

Cheers!
VJ

[Manan]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

No riding gear can be a fool proof safety mechanism if u crash at 160 - 200 kmph. High speeds which VJ was referring to is anything beyond 80kmph maybe. Plus, motoX armor wont provide any abrasion resistance.

Further, pls dont go for riding gear cos you wont look good on CBR otherwise. The only reason to go for riding gear is to be prepared when you take a fall. I remember @Sunnyside_up! saying that a crash at 60kmph is enough to burn the 3rd layer of your skin, that should amply stress the importance of riding gear.
You may try
spartanprogear.com
planetdsg.com
bachoomotors.com
performanceracing.in

for brands other than Cramster.


Hey buddy,

I have quite a contrary experience at the Cramster store in Bangalore. My case was the other way round. I requested them on phone to stay back for 10 mins past the scheduled closure time to which they agreed. When I reached there within that time the store was closed!

What I meant was not on the looks, but my current status of gear.
This is why I wish to upgrade
thanks for the link

Manan.

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There is no set weight for any jacket whatsoever. A jacket's weight depends on the material it uses and the armor it uses, which makes a big difference in the weight of the jackets. But if you're not sure what type of jacket you want, the best idea would be try them personally.




You have Spartan, you have Cramster, you have DSG you have AGV, you have etc etc etc in riding gears. KOMINE jackets haven't personally seen any reviews of them here or neither have I seem them personally. They are a Japanese brand and going by their reviews, there aren't so good reaffirming reviews about KOMINE some say it's inferior some say it's okay-ish. But I think you wouldn't want to lean at KOMINE at least for the time being.

Go for RJays if you love it. I personally use their jackets and it's seen more than 8k KMS and 2k KMS serious kick ass terrain riding, and still going strong,








@DeVille. Nothing in DSG leather costs you less than 2000 bucks and even in RYNOX gloves. There are textile gloves in DSG which cost 800 to 900 bucks which is pretty much useless for motorcycle riding. When you want to get the best of the gear (affordable ones) you need to have at least minimum 20k for basic stuffs without which I can vouch most of them have opted for. When you buy things separate one by one, you won't know much of a difference, but when you want to purchase all at one, the numbers look big.

Calculate it down to bits and pieces it tablulate more than what you expected.

@Manan, you are right, motocross apparel are basically pants and jackets with plastic armors and a helmet. You wouldn't wanna fall with that on a tarmac where you'd burn your flesh in a flash. Even these gears doesn't prove the fact that you're "100 safe" out there. All you can do is save the skin you lose or protect them for better.

You need to know one thing, not all guys who go in CBR know the importance of riding gear or the guy who is riding an Apache doesn't. Looks deceive... and they do a lot....

Remeber, hospital bills are far far far worse than a riding gear set.... And don't forget the mental turmoil too.... It's better to than better off.



Cheers!
VJ

Thank you, that means ,e even the motor cross gear would not be sufficient for tarmac use.
The clothing I mentioned was not for looks, but the current gear I use, of course this sounded that I cared for looks.
Thank you once again.

Manan.