Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Okay so guys I have been testing SafeTech armour from Mototech this week.

Here are my first impressions -

*The armour is CE level 2 and T+ / T- certified.

*The armour is pretty hard compared to likes of Knox and Sastec.

*The armour is built low quality, it is not curved, neither is the finishing any good. It screams cheap China ! (again not saying everything made in China is bad, but this definitely is.)

*The coverage is not good, it's a type A and type B is not available. For me it doesn't even cover the shoulder properly, and Mototech provides it as S-E-K (Shoulder-Elbow-Knee), it just won't fit in elbow pockets of jackets that I could find, just too small.

Hope this helps prospective buyers. Yes this is mostly negative, but then, it's the cheapest and most affordable level 2 armour from a Brand that you can find. Although, I would say, if you need replacement armours, spend some more and get Sastec, they are much better in fit and finish.

[kirtisinghbisht]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Can someone suggest a good rain wear. Tried some but the rain water somehow makes its route inside my clothes
Budget = Max 2000/-

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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Can someone suggest a good rain wear. Tried some but the rain water somehow makes its route inside my clothes
Budget = Max 2000/-

Look for rain suits from Nzeel at Flipkart or try seasonkart.com for Versalis and Duckback.

[Rajas Sheth]

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Can someone suggest a good rain wear. Tried some but the rain water somehow makes its route inside my clothes
Budget = Max 2000/-

Have a look at the Versalys range...
Have a look at Oggy F's video on YT

[THANIGAIMADHAVAN]

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Hi fellow riders.. First time posting.

Planning to buy ASPIDA NEMESIS JACKET.... is it worth the price... Or someone got any other suggestions as I am looking for meshed jacket....

[Somesh1902]

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Hi fellow riders.. First time posting.

Planning to buy ASPIDA NEMESIS JACKET.... is it worth the price... Or someone got any other suggestions as I am looking for meshed jacket....

checkout tbg mesh jacket ,nemesis is also good.

[kirtisinghbisht]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Look for rain suits from Nzeel at Flipkart or try seasonkart.com for Versalis and Duckback.

Have a look at the Versalys range...
Have a look at Oggy F's video on YT

Thanks guys, but any idea about Decathlon.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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Hi fellow riders.. First time posting.

Planning to buy ASPIDA NEMESIS JACKET.... is it worth the price... Or someone got any other suggestions as I am looking for meshed jacket....

Check TBG knight 2.

Else go with Aspida.

TBG comes with a proper back protector for 2k more.

[praths]

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Can someone suggest a good rain wear. Tried some but the rain water somehow makes its route inside my clothes
Budget = Max 2000/-

Check out decathlon. But the sales fellow at one of their stores told me that they do not know how it would perform on motorcycles.
I have used one (not over a riding jacket) directly over my shirt and t-shirt. I have no complains.

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Okay so guys I have been testing SafeTech armour from Mototech this week.

Here are my first impressions -

Hope this helps prospective buyers. Yes this is mostly negative, but then, it's the cheapest and most affordable level 2 armour from a Brand that you can find. Although, I would say, if you need replacement armours, spend some more and get Sastec, they are much better in fit and finish.

Are these not as flexible as much as the Sastec or Knox?

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Okay so guys I have been testing SafeTech armour from Mototech this week.

Here are my first impressions -

*The armour is CE level 2 and T+ / T- certified.

*The armour is pretty hard compared to likes of Knox and Sastec.

*The armour is built low quality, it is not curved, neither is the finishing any good. It screams cheap China ! (again not saying everything made in China is bad, but this definitely is.)

*The coverage is not good, it's a type A and type B is not available. For me it doesn't even cover the shoulder properly, and Mototech provides it as S-E-K (Shoulder-Elbow-Knee), it just won't fit in elbow pockets of jackets that I could find, just too small.

Hope this helps prospective buyers. Yes this is mostly negative, but then, it's the cheapest and most affordable level 2 armour from a Brand that you can find. Although, I would say, if you need replacement armours, spend some more and get Sastec, they are much better in fit and finish.

Any side-by-side pics of the armours??

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

From left to right -
Safetech, Sastec Neo, Sastec, unbranded CE1.
these are shoulder armours.

And yes, Safetech is not even closely as flexible as Knox or Sastec. It feels plasticky and cheap, also the finishing is bad as I said.
It is also very flat unlike the other armours in the picture.

https://youtu.be/yHkecDyf7kA

Here is a video.

[Astrix]

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Yes guys, if you want to buy protectors separately especially Level 2 protectors go for Sastec as against Safetech.

Knox Micro-lock Level 2 protectors are great too. But unfortunately, you cannot buy them separately. So if you plan to buy a jacket try to get a jacket with Knox Mirolock Level 2 protectors so you do not have to buy level 2 protectors separately.

Also, Knox protectors are expensive, the last time I checked, Knox Flexiform level 1 was sold for around INR. 1850/- for Shoulder and 1850/- for the elbow. These are the same one are provided in the Spartan Helios and Hyperion jacket and Rynox Urban jacket.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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I would recommend buying Sastec, they are honest afaik and the standard.

Also about T+ and T-, lot of talking over them, even unbranded protectors get T+ and T- nowadays.
And with shady practices like we remember D3o was officially CE level 2 certified, and more. And how they terribly failed in many lab tests, yes absolutely terribly. Though I do not mean to say that Knox or any such will fail, but I have my doubts.
Also, with influx of such cheap protectors like unbranded ones and Safetech getting T+ and T-, I have my doubts confirmed.
Don't blindly look at T+ and T-, do test it like I did with my sastec clad jacket, ridden above 40 degrees, ridden below zero degrees, so far so good.

About the costs, Elbow protectors from Knox cost around 1200-1800 INR, for microlock and flexiform.

Also, if you can afford, rather invest in Forcefield armour, which is the most proven brand so far.

There are many brands nowadays that supply to big OEMs, doesn't mean they have to be good, like in case Protractor armours used by Dainese.

I would pick sastec, used them, I trust them with my life.
Also, I am yet to see Knox in any big magazines or in videos of tubers like Ryan F9 / Fortnine. If they were that good, they would surely have been considered by now.

[Astrix]

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I have been using Knox and am very happy with those protectors too. Trusting my life with it. Especially given the fact that Knox provides a 5 year warranty on their protectors. This also talks volumes about the confidence they have in their product quality.
With regards to T+ and T-, I feel in the region where I stay currently it is 40+ and I would not buy a Sas Tec protector till they do not get a CE certification of T+.

With regards to unbranded protectors getting T+ and T- certification, well they do pass those CE test and well deserve the certification. Be it Safetach or any other brand.

Sas Tec is better than Safetech only because they are more comfortable since Safetech is a bit rigid. But protection wise, I will not reverse any doubts about Safetech's ability too at least at the T+ condition. Safetech may turn out to be as good as Knox or Sas tec.

Sastec is good protectors too, but the fact that they still not have the T+ and T- CE certification raises questions in my mind. With regards to media and magazines, we all know all this can be paid promotion.

So it's better if we go with all the CE certifications. I mean there is a reason why T+ and T-tests were included in the CE certification for motorcycle protectors. Thus I prefer protectors with T+ T-.

But as I said, Knox is not available separately, so if anyone asks me for an upgrade in protectors for existing jacket, I tell them to go for Sastec, while if anyone wants to pick up a jacket, my recommendation stands to be any brand with Knox protectors.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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Honestly the finish and feel of safetech screams cheap !
Also, since these unbranded ones are made in China usually, I won't even bother to trust CE level, let alone T+ and T-.
When a trusted big brand like d3o has CE level 2 while it fails in so many tests, I can't trust unbranded ones.

About paid promotions, it can be done for one brand, not for so many brands if I am right.
And there are many magazines and channels that acclaim Forcefield as the best in class, sastec being a rank 2. Some consider d3o and A star bionic too, but haven't heard of Knox despite it being a British brand, if I am right.

But as I said, I would pick Knox after Sastec, Powertector, Forcefield for my own usage, much much above safetech.
But then, about suggesting it to someone, I suggest something that works out for them, since the scope of these armours is not as wide in our country, some protection is always better than none protection.
Even CE1 can be a life saver inside a 500d usual jacket.
About buying a new jacket, priority stands for Powertector, then Sastec and so on.