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  • Originally posted by Revverend View Post
    Well i have been hanging around this place for quite a lot of time reading trip logs and refraining from all the G2G s due to the sole reason of not having proper riding gear. I was finally able to save around 10K solely meant for riding gear.

    Gloves:

    Well again i am looking for waterproof ones,with protection for the wrist along with the palms and knuckles.

    DSG primal seems to be a favorite for full gauntlet ones but have not found any mention of its waterproof abilties.Another option with DSG is their vector range and i would like to know what exactly is the difference between Vector & Primal ? Any first hand user experiences regarding the waterproof abilities would be of great help.

    DSG primal is leather, its well ventilated NOT meant for the rains, it gets stinky and colors your fingers and palm, black.
    this is what info. i have to offer.


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    • Originally posted by Revverend View Post
      Well i have been hanging around this place for quite a lot of time reading trip logs and refraining from all the G2G s due to the sole reason of not having proper riding gear. I was finally able to save around 10K solely meant for riding gear.

      Jacket :

      My requirement is ,like many others, a jacket suitable for brief city rides and long tours too most importantly should be water proof.The Thermal liner should be able to protect me from ladakh level temperatures and the jacket should be ventilated enough for rides through tamilnadu in peak summers.I should be able to carry it in a backpack,when i am not riding.

      I had decided to go for the DSG ones with my eyes closed as it was the tried & tested brand for xBhp and moreover their main store is in pune. But after a lot of searching around on different threads , i havent come across anyone mentioning these are 100% waterproof.


      The RJays octane,although a couple of grand out of my budget, seems to fits the bill perfectly at least based on reviews here and on other sites.The weight of the jacket seems to be on a higher side.Haven't checked it in person yet.

      Another lightweight option is the RJays swift,within my budget but a compromise on the CE protection offered in octane.

      I would like to hear some first hand opinions about the swift with regard to ventilation and waterproofing.Ideally,except for the protectors the swift should not be any different from the octane,at least from my perception.Is that right ?

      I do not have the option of importing it from the states and with the limited options of Cramster,DSG & Rjays,i am in a confused state mind. Do not want to go wrong here as i do not have the luxury of changing jackets every 6 months. So really need your inputs guys.


      Gloves:

      Well again i am looking for waterproof ones,with protection for the wrist along with the palms and knuckles.

      DSG primal seems to be a favorite for full gauntlet ones but have not found any mention of its waterproof abilties.Another option with DSG is their vector range and i would like to know what exactly is the difference between Vector & Primal ? Any first hand user experiences regarding the waterproof abilities would be of great help.

      The Rjays range of gloves which are waterproof starts at 2,799 with the Tempest 2. Honestly have not found any mention of RJays gloves in the forum or anywhere else.

      Guys ,i would appreciate on the options available within 2.5-3K.

      Knee Pads :

      I do not seem to find any genuine basket of options here as most of the ones i have come across are these fake Axo and Fox knee guards + elbow guards in the price range of anywhere between 800-2500.

      The only other option is cramster bionic ones which are available for 1500.Apart from the rivet scratching the tank,which can be taken care of,i have not come across any other issues.

      I have time till this Saturday and my budget is strictly 10k (1K can be adjusted). So everyone please pitch in your honest opinions and first hand experiences to help me out in choosing the right stuff. I ride an RTR 160 btw.

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      hey Revverend,
      i am not an expert in riding gears,but iv done a little research so here are my 2 cents

      Jacket Material for:
      Low Temperature=Cordura,Leather,Any windproof material with a liner
      High Temperature=Mesh (Best) , Anything with vents (not as good as mesh,but iv heard people say good enough)

      you cant get both in one jacket unless the jacket has separate liners.
      but i feel if a jacket doesnt have a thermal liner or insulating capability,u could always wear 2-3 shirts or a thermal innerwear inside, it doesnt work that way with the waterproof requirement (raincoat is an option,but i hate raincoats :P)

      For Gloves,i am planning to buy non-waterproof gloves since incase of rains,il just wear surgeons rubber gloves (any medical shop) inside thenormal gloves. that way you can buy gloves with perforations for air and make them waterproof when needed .

      Knee/Shin Guards- I am getting fake Fox racing titan knee guards (800Rs).

      Btw,i am also looking for a good all round jacket,i have set my eyes on the cramster breezer 4.0 as of now,seems to be a good deal with 2 liners and being mesh,it should be good for summer.

      cheers

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      • Originally posted by ka600 View Post
        For Gloves,i am planning to buy non-waterproof gloves since incase of rains,il just wear surgeons rubber gloves (any medical shop) inside thenormal gloves. that way you can buy gloves with perforations for air and make them waterproof when needed .
        Why not mount those surgical gloves on top of your riding gloves? Wearing surgical gloves inside riding glove dosen't help much as I had tried doing that during my Leh ride.

        Originally posted by ka600 View Post
        Knee/Shin Guards- I am getting fake Fox racing titan knee guards (800Rs).
        Please avoid buying those fake fox knee guards. They are really really bad. In pune, we had bought around 6-7 pairs at a time but they did not last even 6 months. In fact, one knee protector fell off on its own
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        • Originally posted by ankurjain View Post
          Oh gr8 .. can u post some pics ? I have seen it online but real pics do matter and may look different

          Is this water-proof jacket ? What were the other options in the same price range ?

          PS: Sorry if i asked too much

          ..Njoi ur breezer
          It dint rain much after i bought the jacket.... It seems waterproof..its got a removable layer which makes it waterproof right under the mesh layer..i wore it in a slight drizzle and water dint penetrate..will post the pics soon..and yea the jacket looks the same as the one you saw online..

          Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
          Why not mount those surgical gloves on top of your riding gloves? Wearing surgical gloves inside riding glove dosen't help much as I had tried doing that during my Leh ride.
          i would suggest surgical gloves outside because it makes the palms too wetty if worn inside

          Originally posted by ka600 View Post
          hey! finally someone who can tell me about the liners! i wanted a review on this jacket since a long time, could you please post your experience with the jacket. and a picture of the jacket while wearing it would be great!
          are the liners comfortable to wear? or the problem is only removing/attaching them? also,is the rain liner truely waterproof?

          sorry for soo many question,but i was going to buy this jacket tomorow itself,a review from u would be very helpful!

          thanks
          as i said this jacket feels good man..i would suggest you buy this..yea just a small problem while removing the jacket but then it would be fine as you get used to it..other option is dsg nero.but i would suggest you go ahead with the breezer.

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          • @ Revverend - Good to see you have kept a decent budget for your riding gear. Reviews of almost all the products you have listed are available on this thread.

            For full gauntlet gloves, I would recommend the Cramster TRG2 which covers your wrist completely & can go over your jacket unlike most of the DSG options. This is especially useful for long distance rides where you dont want cold air to enter your jacket. For in-city use you can have the jacket sleeves over the gloves so you can get some air circulation.
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            • Originally posted by neil.jericho View Post
              For full gauntlet gloves, I would recommend the Cramster TRG2 which covers your wrist completely & can go over your jacket unlike most of the DSG options.
              I would recommend DSG any day over the crapster.

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              • I would also recommend DSG. I have DSG Spike which I am using since 2009. I have moto Mesh , and recently bought DSG Carbon gloves. Yet to use them. Any idea, can they be worn in rains or not ?


                Regarding Knee guards, i have Cramster Bionic ones. Just one issue is that the rivets used to scratch the tank, but, I have stuck a square piece of Cycle's tube over it, and it doesnt scratch the tank anymore .
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                • Originally posted by Revverend View Post
                  Well i have been hanging around this place for quite a lot of time reading trip logs and refraining from all the G2G s due to the sole reason of not having proper riding gear. I was finally able to save around 10K solely meant for riding gear.

                  .......

                  Buddy,

                  To cut a long story short, there is NO SUCH THING as an all-in-one product, and if anyone tells you different, they're talking crap.

                  Products designed for cold weather are different from rain-proof products which are in turn different from hot weather products. Anything that tries to combine two or more functions will always be a compromise. Period.

                  Please indicate your location/city for a better analysis of your needs.

                  I'd suggest that you select your gear based on their optimal usage - i.e the riding conditions you will be subject to most of the time.

                  For example, it makes no sense to get a thermal layered jacket if you live in Tamilnadu on the off-chance that you might ride to Ladakh next year.

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                  • Originally posted by n_aditya View Post
                    I would recommend DSG any day over the crapster.
                    My spidey senses warned me that you would post that

                    Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
                    Buddy,

                    To cut a long story short, there is NO SUCH THING as an all-in-one product, and if anyone tells you different, they're talking crap.

                    Products designed for cold weather are different from rain-proof products which are in turn different from hot weather products. Anything that tries to combine two or more functions will always be a compromise. Period.

                    Please indicate your location/city for a better analysis of your needs.

                    I'd suggest that you select your gear based on their optimal usage - i.e the riding conditions you will be subject to most of the time.

                    For example, it makes no sense to get a thermal layered jacket if you live in Tamilnadu on the off-chance that you might ride to Ladakh next year.
                    + 1 gazillion
                    Reverend, this thread has answers from the well informed on almost all the products you have listed and for differing requirements as well.
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                    • @ reverend:

                      DSG aqua seems like a good glove, i have recently purchased Rjays H2O gloves, and they are great, and 100% water proof.


                      regarding jackets, cramster has an additional thermal liner also.
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                      • Originally posted by Revverend View Post
                        Jacket :

                        My requirement is ,like many others, a jacket suitable for brief city rides and long tours too most importantly should be water proof.The Thermal liner should be able to protect me from ladakh level temperatures and the jacket should be ventilated enough for rides through tamilnadu in peak summers.I should be able to carry it in a backpack,when i am not riding.

                        I had decided to go for the DSG ones with my eyes closed as it was the tried & tested brand for xBhp and moreover their main store is in pune. But after a lot of searching around on different threads , i havent come across anyone mentioning these are 100% waterproof.

                        Gloves:

                        Well again i am looking for waterproof ones,with protection for the wrist along with the palms and knuckles.

                        DSG primal seems to be a favorite for full gauntlet ones but have not found any mention of its waterproof abilties.Another option with DSG is their vector range and i would like to know what exactly is the difference between Vector & Primal ? Any first hand user experiences regarding the waterproof abilities would be of great help.

                        Godspeed
                        Revverend
                        Jackets. Nero is waterproof. DSG Nero Jacket - 5,499.00Rs

                        Gloves: Primal and Vector are not waterproof. Acqua are waterproof and have been tested extensively over past 6 months. Additional breathable thermal insulation will make them suitable for winters too.

                        Originally posted by bikerboysyd View Post
                        I would also recommend DSG. I have DSG Spike which I am using since 2009. I have moto Mesh , and recently bought DSG Carbon gloves. Yet to use them. Any idea, can they be worn in rains or not ?
                        Carbon won't let water come in but avoid using them in rains as they are manufactured with full grain leather .
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                        • Originally posted by pronoy_banerjee View Post
                          DSG primal is leather, its well ventilated NOT meant for the rains, it gets stinky and colors your fingers and palm, black.
                          this is what info. i have to offer.
                          Thanks for the first hand advice.It helps.Will be looking out for options specifically meant for the purpose.

                          Originally posted by ka600 View Post
                          hey Revverend,
                          i am not an expert in riding gears,but iv done a little research so here are my 2 cents

                          Jacket Material for:
                          Low Temperature=Cordura,Leather,Any windproof material with a liner
                          High Temperature=Mesh (Best) , Anything with vents (not as good as mesh,but iv heard people say good enough)

                          you cant get both in one jacket unless the jacket has separate liners.
                          but i feel if a jacket doesnt have a thermal liner or insulating capability,u could always wear 2-3 shirts or a thermal innerwear inside, it doesnt work that way with the waterproof requirement (raincoat is an option,but i hate raincoats :P)

                          For Gloves,i am planning to buy non-waterproof gloves since incase of rains,il just wear surgeons rubber gloves (any medical shop) inside thenormal gloves. that way you can buy gloves with perforations for air and make them waterproof when needed .

                          Knee/Shin Guards- I am getting fake Fox racing titan knee guards (800Rs).

                          Btw,i am also looking for a good all round jacket,i have set my eyes on the cramster breezer 4.0 as of now,seems to be a good deal with 2 liners and being mesh,it should be good for summer.

                          cheers
                          I share the same opinion on selecting gear that can handle riding in the rain. I hate raincoats too

                          Originally posted by neil.jericho View Post
                          @ Revverend - Good to see you have kept a decent budget for your riding gear. Reviews of almost all the products you have listed are available on this thread.

                          For full gauntlet gloves, I would recommend the Cramster TRG2 which covers your wrist completely & can go over your jacket unlike most of the DSG options. This is especially useful for long distance rides where you dont want cold air to enter your jacket. For in-city use you can have the jacket sleeves over the gloves so you can get some air circulation.
                          thank you but i am not very keen on cramster products primarily due to the reviews here on the quality. You ve mentioned a nice quick tip there.It works!

                          Ah boy,bad experience with cramster there ? I ve kinda looked over the Acqua ones until you have mentioned it here.Going to the DSG store tomorrow.Will check it out for sure.Thank you

                          Originally posted by bikerboysyd View Post
                          I would also recommend DSG. I have DSG Spike which I am using since 2009. I have moto Mesh , and recently bought DSG Carbon gloves. Yet to use them. Any idea, can they be worn in rains or not ?


                          Regarding Knee guards, i have Cramster Bionic ones. Just one issue is that the rivets used to scratch the tank, but, I have stuck a square piece of Cycle's tube over it, and it doesnt scratch the tank anymore .
                          Well apparently the dealer for cramster products in pune has mentioned that the knee guards are out of production as a new model is coming up but he doesn't have a definite timeline.As he has no stock and netiher does cramster i am stuck with no options on the knee guards.

                          Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
                          Buddy,

                          To cut a long story short, there is NO SUCH THING as an all-in-one product, and if anyone tells you different, they're talking crap.

                          Products designed for cold weather are different from rain-proof products which are in turn different from hot weather products. Anything that tries to combine two or more functions will always be a compromise. Period.

                          Please indicate your location/city for a better analysis of your needs.

                          I'd suggest that you select your gear based on their optimal usage - i.e the riding conditions you will be subject to most of the time.

                          For example, it makes no sense to get a thermal layered jacket if you live in Tamilnadu on the off-chance that you might ride to Ladakh next year.
                          I belong to pune and the riding conditions ill be using the gear in are quite variable

                          I understand that there are no "made for all conditions gear" from any manufacturer. As an indian,we all crave for all in one packages when buying something ,dont we?

                          The jackets i ve come across have a multitude of liners suited for different weather conditions,so basically i am looking for something which is a balance of all these.

                          Now the reason i have mentioned water proof as priority is that i love to ride in the rains and the jacket and gloves should be good enough to sustain a continuous hour or two of riding without getting the rider drenched and cold. Heat and cold can be tolerable with a few alterations but water is not.

                          And coming to your last point,i do not understand why does it not make sense to buy a jacket fairly suitable for all conditions when i intend to ride to places with varying weather conditions. I cant really afford to buy a jacket for each season or for every trip.

                          So looking for something that can strike a balance.

                          Originally posted by neil.jericho View Post
                          My spidey senses warned me that you would post that



                          + 1 gazillion
                          Reverend, this thread has answers from the well informed on almost all the products you have listed and for differing requirements as well.
                          Thanks neil,was too spoilt with a lot of choices and i am downright confused. So had to post it in a little detail.

                          Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                          @ reverend:

                          DSG aqua seems like a good glove, i have recently purchased Rjays H2O gloves, and they are great, and 100% water proof.


                          regarding jackets, cramster has an additional thermal liner also.

                          Thanks for sharing your experience prince.I am not keen on buying cramster ones right now.I am looking for options in DSG & Rjays,will check them out in person.

                          Originally posted by PlanetDSG.com View Post
                          Jackets. Nero is waterproof. DSG Nero Jacket - 5,499.00Rs

                          Gloves: Primal and Vector are not waterproof. Acqua are waterproof and have been tested extensively over past 6 months. Additional breathable thermal insulation will make them suitable for winters too.



                          Carbon won't let water come in but avoid using them in rains as they are manufactured with full grain leather .
                          I am coming to your store tomorrow to check these out.Thank you.

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                            • Originally posted by vaz View Post
                              Hey guys, any inputs on the knee guards listed here? - On The Rocks :: Products - Knee Guards & Protectors
                              I think last month someone checked in their store...and found that the stock is pretty old with dust on them!!!

                              I was planning to buy the Axo's from them...but then...wasn't sure about the genuinity....so dropped the plan...courier charges are very high there...
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                              • Hi guys,

                                I am looking for a textile jacket.As it's my first time shopping in this department so need some help.I will be riding in and around Delhi and as you might know every season is extreme here! Though,I would like a waterproof jacket that will be used in summers for most of the time.Winters,I will manage..

                                I have zeroed in on the Joe-rocket Atomic 4.0 and sadly I can't find any store dealing with this.Not even Performance Racing store..

                                I find this jacket apt for my kind of riding.Prices (on international sites) are around 6.5k-7k,which are well under my budget.Do you know any international site that could ship orders to India?

                                I have been saving for a nice jacket for more than one year now.I started saving having my eye on the DSG jackets but since then they are too common(no offence) now,and I am thinking to switch to other brands.I have 8k to spend,so I am open to other suggestions as well..How are the RJays?

                                PS: Some of my friends suggest that a Joe-rocket jacket is too flashy for our desi bikes and I should rather settle for a DSG or Cramster. What do you guys think?
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