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I am playing nowOriginally posted by Aryan View PostThose who are playing GTA-IV, can they provide some short hands-on review of the same, please as regards to whether they have been facing any significant technical glitches (slowdown, choppy frame-rates, texture problems, etc.)..
well, as far as I've seen, the GTA runs at a medium quality with high rendering quality on my rig. I've installed the patch.
Seen some texure problems but they dont affect the game play at all. after a second they correct themselves too.
when you go to safe house using a taxi, you can see the gps display of the taxi on your TV. (I think I found a bug
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apart from that there are no problems at all. the game plays smoothly and you can alt tab to do other work while playing and can resume the game afterwards too. I think I am half way through the game.Ride with Angels
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45-50lOriginally posted by chicane1879 View PostFolks
I want a performance oriented desktop for my younger brother.The 7 year old PC of mine with earth-shattering rating of PIII 850Mhz, 128 MB RAM has started shaking from within and it's time for a change.
Budget is 45-50K.
-I want a powerful gaming-oriented configuration
-Good LCD Monitor
-Is it possible for a quad-core to come within this budget?
-How much would a 4gb RAM cost?
-What is the most powerful reasonably-priced graphics card available currently?
I have lost touch with the recent launches in the motherboard,RAMs department.So i don't want to be taken for a ride by the dealers. Even if the total price exceeds the budget i would definitely consider it taking the performance benefit into account.
whoa tat way too much... u can easily build a corrosal gamin rig...
my suggestions would be
proccy C2D E8400... best in class of 2cores... and can be clocked way upto 4.05GHz and runs in stock of 3GHz.. in quad cores the best bet would be Q9550.. amazing performance
and best option for 64bit architecture OS.. my suggestion would be not to go in for a quad core unless ur runnin multiprocesses...and building an i7 proccy based rig would be too costly than ur budget.. coz the proccy's least achievable rate would be around 13-14k, moreover u would need a mobo with X58 architecture(meaning LGA 1366 socket and the common ones these days are only LGA 775) which has mindblowing prices and the basic ram for an i7 is a DDR3 which starts at INR 4220 for 2GB. u got around70k? then i7 is up ur way... 
E8400 - INR 8850
Q9550 - INR 17600
best ram in class would be the corsair DHX series... code name C5D it comes at a stock clock of 1066MHz go for a 1GB kit (2*1GB)
if ur goin for a 64bit architecture OS then go for 4GB and above else the maximum usable ram for 32bit OS, which is most commonly used, is 3GB. and with 64bit OS u also have software compatibility problems.
corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D(2 X 1GB DDR2 1066MhZ) - INR 5000
as far as the motherboard u can go for an MSI P45 Platinum... amazing performer... if u find the price too high then go for a MSI P45 NEO...
if not MSI then go for Asus P5Q Pro
MSI P45 Platinum - INR 11300
MSI P45 NEO F - INR 6000
Asus P5Q Pro - INR 9500
now the graphix
all day any day HD4850 sonic.. no other card in mid range series can beat this one... if u can crank up ur budget then go for its brother... the HD4870...(GOD
).. go for the brand "palit" best cooling solutions offered.
palit HD4850 sonic - INR 12500
Palit HD4870 - INR 17500
high end gaming rigs gulp power.... be sure to fuel ur rig.. the best one would be a corsair HX620W... donot compramise on the power supply.
corsair HX620W - INR 6250
if u intend to overclock then go for an aftermarket cpu cooler...and none other than the thermalite ultra 120 extreme does the job better
TRUE - INR 2600(not sure exactly, changes invariably)
then from here on its the usual stuff.... cabinet, dvd writer fans.. etc etc
i dont know about monitors so i cannot comment on them... afaik monitors around 10-12k for a 22" is a price steal
so this should make up ur system
happy building..
PS: kindly post ur reply once u build ur rig
.. any other help please do ask me...
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this sounds like an amazing config. I would envy anyone who had this.Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post45-50l
whoa tat way too much... u can easily build a corrosal gamin rig...
my suggestions would be
proccy C2D E8400... best in class of 2cores... and can be clocked way upto 4.05GHz and runs in stock of 3GHz.. in quad cores the best bet would be Q9550.. amazing performance
and best option for 64bit architecture OS.. my suggestion would be not to go in for a quad core unless ur runnin multiprocesses...
E8400 - INR 8850
Q9550 - INR 17600
best ram in class would be the corsair DHX series... code name C5D it comes at a stock clock of 1066MHz go for a 1GB kit (2*1GB)
if ur goin for a 64bit architecture OS then go for 4GB and above else the maximum usable ram for 32bit OS, which is most commonly used, is 3GB. and with 64bit OS u also have software compatibility problems.
corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D(2 X 1GB DDR2 1066MhZ) - INR 5000
as far as the motherboard u can go for an MSI P45 Platinum... amazing performer... if u find the price too high then go for a MSI P45 NEO...
if not MSI then go for Asus P5Q Pro
MSI P45 Platinum - INR 11300
MSI P45 NEO F - INR 6000
Asus P5Q Pro - INR 9500
now the graphix
all day any day HD4850 sonic.. no other card in mid range series can beat this one... if u can crank up ur budget then go for its brother... the HD4870...(GOD
).. go for the brand "palit" best cooling solutions offered.
palit HD4850 sonic - INR 10300
Palit HD4870 - INR 12500
high end gaming rigs gulp power.... be sure to fuel ur rig.. the best one would be a corsair HX620W... donot compramise on the power supply.
corsair HX620W - INR 6250
if u intend to overclock then go for an aftermarket cpu cooler...and none other than the thermalite ultra 120 extreme does the job better
TRUE - INR 2600(not sure exactly, changes invariably)
then from here on its the usual stuff.... cabinet, dvd writer fans.. etc etc
i dont know about monitors so i cannot comment on them... afaik monitors around 10-12k for a 22" is a price steal
so this should make up ur system
happy building..
PS: kindly post ur reply once u build ur rig
.. any other help please do ask me...DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe
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I A.G.R.E.E 1.0.0 P.E.R.C.E.N.TOriginally posted by Marcus Lucius Maximus View PostFALLOUT 3 is A. W. E. S. O. M. E.
I just completed a couple days back and I felt so sad. As if I ended a long tour on the bike.
One thing I didn't like about the game was once you finish the game, you cannot finish unfinished business. Its over. Unlike GTA. The simple solution to that is to not finish the last level, finish everything else then only go back and finish the level. Quite funny. Bethesda should have thought about that.DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe
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Thanks,dude!!Originally posted by mohsihummer View Postchicane,
get a gud mobo.worth the money.and get one with 4 ram slots,quad-core compatibility,and enuf expansion slots.
i have gigabyte ga-p35-dq6 mobo.best over clocker.google it
with 3gb ram,nvidia 8500gt,2.1 core 2 duo overclocked to 2.4.
don't buy quad core.no current games can utilise those extra cores.
that's the advice i'll give.
btw, my current config will run two seperate monitor outputs and a tv output simultaneosly.
Btw, Is it true that the current games are unable to support the Quad core processor.I heard that that most of the motherboard's do not provide 1333Fsb which was the cause for the quad not performing to its full potential.
Whoa!.Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
my suggestions would be
proccy C2D E8400... best in class of 2cores... and can be clocked way upto 4.05GHz and runs in stock of 3GHz.. in quad cores the best bet would be Q9550.. amazing performance
and best option for 64bit architecture OS.. my suggestion would be not to go in for a quad core unless ur runnin multiprocesses...and building an i7 proccy based rig would be too costly than ur budget.. coz the proccy's least achievable rate would be around 13-14k, moreover u would need a mobo with X58 architecture(meaning LGA 1366 socket and the common ones these days are only LGA 775) which has mindblowing prices and the basic ram for an i7 is a DDR3 which starts at INR 4220 for 2GB. u got around70k? then i7 is up ur way... 
E8400 - INR 8850
Q9550 - INR 17600
best ram in class would be the corsair DHX series... code name C5D it comes at a stock clock of 1066MHz go for a 1GB kit (2*1GB)
if ur goin for a 64bit architecture OS then go for 4GB and above else the maximum usable ram for 32bit OS, which is most commonly used, is 3GB. and with 64bit OS u also have software compatibility problems.
corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D(2 X 1GB DDR2 1066MhZ) - INR 5000
as far as the motherboard u can go for an MSI P45 Platinum... amazing performer... if u find the price too high then go for a MSI P45 NEO...
if not MSI then go for Asus P5Q Pro
MSI P45 Platinum - INR 11300
MSI P45 NEO F - INR 6000
Asus P5Q Pro - INR 9500
now the graphix
all day any day HD4850 sonic.. no other card in mid range series can beat this one... if u can crank up ur budget then go for its brother... the HD4870...(GOD
).. go for the brand "palit" best cooling solutions offered.
palit HD4850 sonic - INR 12500
Palit HD4870 - INR 17500
high end gaming rigs gulp power.... be sure to fuel ur rig.. the best one would be a corsair HX620W... donot compramise on the power supply.
corsair HX620W - INR 6250
so this should make up ur system
happy building..
PS: kindly post ur reply once u build ur rig
.. any other help please do ask me...
This is one heck of an advice.Many many thanks for it. 
Just calculated the total cost which went over 60k(including monitor and other necessary bits).
What i had shortlisted is this:
Processor:Intel Q9300 Core 2 Quad Processor Price - 11800/- 2.5 ghz or
Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad Processor Price- 9050/- 45nm 2.4 ghz
I think going in for Quad core makes sense at this point of time as the prices could come down as mentioned by Aparajith due to the arrival of i7.Also it would mean having the latest processor, so no fear becoming obsolete in a short time.Or am i wrong??
Motherboard:MSI P7N SLI Platinum Nvidia 750i SLI Chipset Motherboard Price - 8250/-
RAM:Corsair 2 GB DDR2 RAM Price - 2050/-
Graphics Card:XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 512MB Graphics Card Price - 8,900/-
Monitor:LG or Viewsonic which would cost somewhere around 8-10k!!
Hard Disk:500 GB Sata Seagate Hard Disk - 3200/-
It would be great if you would please compare your specifications with mine.In that way it would really help me in choosing the right one and know the advantages.
ThanksLast edited by chicane1879; 12-23-2008, 09:28 PM.
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My friend got a 4850 for 9500/- recently, not sure if its Palit though. Thats too good a deal IMO.Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post45-50l
whoa tat way too much... u can easily build a corrosal gamin rig...
now the graphix
all day any day HD4850 sonic.. no other card in mid range series can beat this one... if u can crank up ur budget then go for its brother... the HD4870...(GOD
).. go for the brand "palit" best cooling solutions offered.
palit HD4850 sonic - INR 12500
Palit HD4870 - INR 17500
i dont know about monitors so i cannot comment on them... afaik monitors around 10-12k for a 22" is a price steal
I got a Viewsonic 22" VA2226w for 10.5 K after trading in my old CRT monitor.
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8800 GT is already obsolete. I got it 4-5 months back. Go for 9 series or if you can afford it 200 series.Originally posted by chicane1879 View PostThanks,dude!!
Motherboard:MSI P7N SLI Platinum Nvidia 750i SLI Chipset Motherboard Price - 8250/-
RAM:Corsair 2 GB DDR2 RAM Price - 2050/-
Graphics Card:XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 512MB Graphics Card Price - 8,900/-
Monitor:LG or Viewsonic which would cost somewhere around 8-10k!!
Hard Disk:500 GB Sata Seagate Hard Disk - 3200/-
It would be great if you would please compare your specifications with mine.In that way it would really help me in choosing the right one and know the advantages.
Thanks
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@Hyperion
Thanks for the clarification.So 9800 GT it is what i should consider.I did search for some reviews for the GT and the HD4850 and the GT turns out to be cheaper and is as good performing.I am more inclined to GPUs from Nvidia because of past experiences with ATi has not been great to some of my friends.
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dude the 750i board has a max FSB of 1333Mhz when OC and runs stock at 1066MHz.. basically ur degrading the performance of all ur parts and is a terrible waste of money... never fall for offers like tri-SLi and fancy north bridge heatsinks which come at lower prices.. i've had terrible problems with that board and it has a very limited OC limit... it was very difficult to maintain my E8400 at 3.6GHz...if ur specific on a tri sli then go for an MSI P7N2 diamond 790i chipset... best tri sli board.. made work wonders for me...Originally posted by chicane1879 View PostThanks,dude!!
Btw, Is it true that the current games are unable to support the Quad core processor.I heard that that most of the motherboard's do not provide 1333Fsb which was the cause for the quad not performing to its full potential.
Just calculated the total cost which went over 60k(including monitor and other necessary bits).
What i had shortlisted is this:
Processor:Intel Q9300 Core 2 Quad Processor Price - 11800/- 2.5 ghz or
Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad Processor Price- 9050/- 45nm 2.4 ghz
I think going in for Quad core makes sense at this point of time as the prices could come down as mentioned by Aparajith due to the arrival of i7.Also it would mean having the latest processor, so no fear becoming obsolete in a short time.Or am i wrong??
Motherboard:MSI P7N SLI Platinum Nvidia 750i SLI Chipset Motherboard Price - 8250/-
RAM:Corsair 2 GB DDR2 RAM Price - 2050/-
Graphics Card:XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 512MB Graphics Card Price - 8,900/-
Monitor:LG or Viewsonic which would cost somewhere around 8-10k!!
Hard Disk:500 GB Sata Seagate Hard Disk - 3200/-
It would be great if you would please compare your specifications with mine.In that way it would really help me in choosing the right one and know the advantages.
Thanks
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the best choice would be the MSI P45 NEO2.... its a P45 board, and a stock FSB of 1600MHz
.. and also 2 PCIx16e 2.0 Slots.. so basically its cooler than 750i, and this is my current board and 've had no issues for the past 1month. i think this ur solve ur query for low performance of quads.
if ur goin for the 9 series, then go for the 9800GTX+ OC... best card from nvidia and can be almost compared with HD4850. and please in the name of lord ganesha forget 8800... my prevoius card used to reach a corrosal 105C
. it seves as an oven to ur comp. never go for POV or zebronics brand. go for sapphire, MSI or EVGA..
the corsair sticks are good please mention its clock speed only then would be able to comment
and while gettin the HDD verify that ur gettin one with a 32MB cache and not a 16MB. preferrable WD or seagate
a tip to buy a quad core, go for a 1333MHz processor and not a 1066Mhz. make sure the cache is higher. and what ever the speed, dont worry it can be tuned to get a higher core clock.
. my previous Q6600 was at 3.5Ghz. now i've settled for a E8400 as its a higher performer than the Q6600 and is a best VFM core.
and ur forgettin about ur power supply.... dont forget it... its important u provide continious and clean power supply. make sure the head connectors are gold plated ones as they provide 0 resistance to flowing current.
and since ur settling for a 9800, the VX620W would not be necessary.. go for the corsair VX450W..
and about gaming in Quads, there is nothing like the cannot support, the only problem is that most games these days are not built for handling 4 cores. a game like crysis which is known to bringing high end processors to its knees cannot properly handle a quad core and it can fully utilize only 2 cores. so what happens it that the came doesnt know that its got 2 more cores which it can utilize but it doesnot do tat. so while runnin a game and u open taskmanager->performance, ur CPU history would show only 2 processors being maximum used. hope that games in future atleast handle 4 cores
. thus quad cores are used for multi processing....
if ur planning to build one exactly for gaming then the quad core would quite not satisfy ur needs, but for a multi procssin task, photoshop, video editin, game, PI chart calculation and Orthos runnin simultaneously, a quad core does its job.
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if its 9.5k then its surely palit only... MSI comes for 11k odd and sapphire is 10k.. gecube is way too costly.Originally posted by Hyperion View PostMy friend got a 4850 for 9500/- recently, not sure if its Palit though. Thats too good a deal IMO.
I got a Viewsonic 22" VA2226w for 10.5 K after trading in my old CRT monitor.
if the frind of urs got a buy back of the card and is willing to spend another 2k, then immediately tell him to get the HD4850 sonic, higher clock and more GPU core clock and amazing heatsink and cooler. all for jus an extra 2k..
the recent HD4850's as far as i've heard are having bios problems and temperatures wandering at 60C...
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other than the VX620W in which case i have a CM500W EP+ with an MSI P45 NEO2, the above is my config..

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