Air Filters - Universal Thread

[xpranav]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Hey Guys, my Honda Activa 2010 @16000 KMs is up for changing Air filter
Can you guys suggest me to go with stock one or any other
and also SparkPlug needs to be change

if you were happy with the performance/FE of stock AF, it is good to stay with the same new one, and so goes with the spark plug

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

Cheerz!!

My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

Cheerz!!

How many KMS depends on the usage of the bike. Riding in good conditions even for 1000 KMS wouldn't affect the AF as much, it's pretty much as your lungs, you go in a dusty situation you sneeze, you cough you get all sort of things, and vice versa.

An adequate figure which I maintain is 500 KMS strict! No matter what when trips are brought into the equation, else I always maintain a 500 to 700 KM strict filter cleaning interval. But mind you for a filter to get clogged so much so that the engine couldn't breathe must be a vehicle that is revived from junk.

Most modern engines are pretty efficient and do their best to breathe free, it's when they are clogged beyond their threshold they start giving trouble.

In my 4 years of ownership of my bike, the air filter choke was lit only once and it was gone the very next moment I cleaned the filter.

[MENTION=25847]atulade[/MENTION]ep, dry means not really paper they are cotton and felt of certain kind that are used to trap the dirt. Cars use paper filters and they are used primarily because they last long than conventional oil dipped foam.

Cheers!
VJ

[devils_friend]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

How many KMS depends on the usage of the bike. Riding in good conditions even for 1000 KMS wouldn't affect the AF as much, it's pretty much as your lungs, you go in a dusty situation you sneeze, you cough you get all sort of things, and vice versa.

An adequate figure which I maintain is 500 KMS strict! No matter what when trips are brought into the equation, else I always maintain a 500 to 700 KM strict filter cleaning interval. But mind you for a filter to get clogged so much so that the engine couldn't breathe must be a vehicle that is revived from junk.

Most modern engines are pretty efficient and do their best to breathe free, it's when they are clogged beyond their threshold they start giving trouble.

In my 4 years of ownership of my bike, the air filter choke was lit only once and it was gone the very next moment I cleaned the filter.

@atuladeep, dry means not really paper they are cotton and felt of certain kind that are used to trap the dirt. Cars use paper filters and they are used primarily because they last long than conventional oil dipped foam.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks.

How to know whether the AF is choked or not? Any signs for the same? Also, as you have mentioned, dry type is paper type, how is that to be cleaned?

Cheerz!!

[abhi7013]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Thanks.

How to know whether the AF is choked or not? Any signs for the same? Also, as you have mentioned, dry type is paper type, how is that to be cleaned?

Cheerz!!

The bike gives jerks as if running low on fuel and it happens wen your doing 80kmph+ in last gear(throttle fully open). Had happened to me.

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[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Thanks.

How to know whether the AF is choked or not? Any signs for the same? Also, as you have mentioned, dry type is paper type, how is that to be cleaned?

Cheerz!!

See there is two things to discern. First what happens when some chokes you, you gasp, you gasp and breathe hard, the bike does almost the same, like fuel being cut off, that's one.

Second the very sound, since air flow is disrupted, the engine struggles and it alters the sound altogether, and after cleanign you might hear a throaty roar which means she's getting all the air she needs.

Third, since you don't have an indicator, as I've previously stated, maintain an interval of 600 KMS strict, and she'll be just fine.

Cheers!
VJ

[abhi7013]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

See there is two things to discern. First what happens when some chokes you, you gasp, you gasp and breathe hard, the bike does almost the same, like fuel being cut off, that's one.

Second the very sound, since air flow is disrupted, the engine struggles and it alters the sound altogether, and after cleanign you might hear a throaty roar which means she's getting all the air she needs.

Third, since you don't have an indicator, as I've previously stated, maintain an interval of 600 KMS strict, and she'll be just fine.

Cheers!
VJ

Now that you've mentioned it, I have a simota air filter. How do I clean it bro. I've got no clue!

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[Pinaki]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Replace dry media (paper) element airfilter at intervals recomended by manufacturer ( read owner's manual ) . If possible , little earlier than that doesn't hurt particularly if you ride dusty roads often . You can clean them a bit by tapping it on the floor dirty side down , and/or blowing with compressed air nozzle held at a distance of a feet from it on the clean side . But they are meant to be replaced only . Also be sure to replace it if it gets wet or oil on it by chance even once . If bike is going to be stored for a long period , remove this type of filter and store it in dry container ( paper element has tendency to absorb moisture from air and clog up when not used ) , stuff the air intake hole on the bike close with clean cloth . Air filter clogging is always accompanied by a sudden noticeable fall in fuel mileage .

Now that you've mentioned it, I have a simota air filter. How do I clean it bro. I've got no clue! ..

http://www.simota.com/instruction.php

[abhi7013]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Replace dry media (paper) element airfilter at intervals recomended by manufacturer ( read owner's manual ) . If possible , little earlier than that doesn't hurt particularly if you ride dusty roads often . You can clean them a bit by tapping it on the floor dirty side down , and/or blowing with compressed air nozzle held at a distance of a feet from it on the clean side . But they are meant to be replaced only . Also be sure to replace it if it gets wet or oil on it by chance even once . If bike is going to be stored for a long period , remove this type of filter and store it in dry container ( paper element has tendency to absorb moisture from air and clog up when not used ) , stuff the air intake hole on the bike close with clean cloth . Air filter clogging is always accompanied by a sudden noticeable fall in fuel mileage .

http://www.simota.com/instruction.php

Bro that maintenance is costly and complicated. And you cannot follow it for a cone filter. Can I just wash it in detergent and then leave it to dry? Later spraying it with chain spray? Many people use chain spray I've heard.

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[Pinaki]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

If you want to continue with their filter it is best to follow their instructions on maintenance . They use a material that is not common and they know best about it's maintenance . Some fabric types used on air-filters should not be washed in detergent etc as it alters the structure of the fibres . Moreover Simota specifically says that they void warranty and are not responsible for damage to your motor if you do so . If you can't do it , better revert to the stock filter or another filter type that is easy for you to maintain . Fabric filter oils I have seen ( the red oil in K&N rechanrge pack ) is much thinner and different to chain sprays .
As a suggestion , Uni foam filters are long lasting & very easy on maintenance .

[B7ACKTHORN]

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Now that you've mentioned it, I have a simota air filter. How do I clean it bro. I've got no clue!

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Simota and most other high end filters are either made of steel and washing them with detergent is not advisable as such. The best practice would be to dunk them in kerosene and brush them lightly (one of my friend did the same in his Karizma) He dunked it the whole day till next day and the kerosene literally cleaned it brand new.

UNI Filters are foam, and any foam is basically easy to clean, provided they are even cheap to replaced considering they are not "branded ones".

But cleaning them in petrol or kerosene is a best idea. But make sure they are dry and I MEAN DRY before you use it back, and you're all set.

Cheers!
VJ

[abhi7013]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Simota and most other high end filters are either made of steel and washing them with detergent is not advisable as such. The best practice would be to dunk them in kerosene and brush them lightly (one of my friend did the same in his Karizma) He dunked it the whole day till next day and the kerosene literally cleaned it brand new.

UNI Filters are foam, and any foam is basically easy to clean, provided they are even cheap to replaced considering they are not "branded ones".

But cleaning them in petrol or kerosene is a best idea. But make sure they are dry and I MEAN DRY before you use it back, and you're all set.

Cheers!
VJ

And bro which type filter does your friend have?

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[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

And bro which type filter does your friend have?

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It's a conical filter, blue one. Sorry, I don't know the model of it, but will let you know if you really want to, but it's a Simota.

Cheers!
VJ

[abhi7013]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

It's a conical filter, blue one. Sorry, I don't know the model of it, but will let you know if you really want to, but it's a Simota.

Cheers!
VJ

If its a simota then no probs! Cause al simota conical ones are dry types.

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[albyjose]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

Guys..please store your spare filters safe..Two of my filters which I cleaned and oiled and stored for future use got eaten by rats!

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

If its a simota then no probs! Cause al simota conical ones are dry types.

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Yes conical are by default most of the filters are dry type, all you need is just clean them properly at the right intervals as they do have quite extended clean intervals, but don't forget they need cleaning too.

Cheers!
VJ