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  • #46
    Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post
    I am so happy that I found this thread. I have the same dilemma. There are some good arguments by the members.

    Hyosung looks brutish but the HD has a bigger and better engine (read my sig)

    Gowri... what bike are you leaning towards as of now? and what are your thoughts on the pros and cons of each.
    hes got an r15 which he will keep in the future also

    @gowri: i dont have much experience with these bikes but what i wanna tell is,i personally dont like the looks of the super low... but love the iron in matt black,i think you should personally look at the hyosung because it is victim to a lot of unfair reviews and reports that the hyosungs have developed in quality are poring in so you should give it a fair chance(atleast a 25km test ride on fair roads)
    and dont forget to wear full gear before going for the test ride... its compulsary(at the hyosung showroom) good luck
    Last edited by saipranav; 06-29-2011, 07:27 PM.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post
      Gowri... what bike are you leaning towards as of now? and what are your thoughts on the pros and cons of each.
      Originally posted by saipranav View Post
      hes got an r15 which he will keep in the future also

      @gowri: i dont have much experience with these bikes but what i wanna tell is,i personally dont like the looks of the super low... but love the iron in matt black,i think you should personally look at the hyosung because it is victim to a lot of unfair reviews and reports that the hyosungs have developed in quality are poring in so you should give it a fair chance(atleast a 25km test ride on fair roads)
      and dont forget to wear full gear before going for the test ride... its compulsary(at the hyosung showroom) good luck
      Let me list my views on these 2 bikes:

      Hyosung ST7:
      Pros:
      Fat Boyish Looks, Lower seat height than HD SuperLow, Higher ground clearance than SuperLow
      Cons:
      Expensive than Harley , High revving engine for a cruiser, no history/legendary status like that of a Harley

      Harley Davidson Superlow:
      Pros:
      It's a Harley (and we shud know that God rides a Harley), bigger displacement, better engine tune for a cruiser, one of the best handling harleys ever, cheaper than ST7, lots of customization available

      Cons:
      Doesn't look that cool like an ST7, 100mm GC which is quite low, cornering even at moderate speeds will scrap the fot pegs and exhaust, seat height is higher than ST7
      Thanks,
      Gowri R.Varadhan

      - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Gowri View Post
        Let me list my views on these 2 bikes:

        Hyosung ST7:
        Pros:
        Fat Boyish Looks, Lower seat height than HD SuperLow, Higher ground clearance than SuperLow
        Cons:
        Expensive than Harley , High revving engine for a cruiser, no history/legendary status like that of a Harley

        Harley Davidson Superlow:
        Pros:
        It's a Harley (and we shud know that God rides a Harley), bigger displacement, better engine tune for a cruiser, one of the best handling harleys ever, cheaper than ST7, lots of customization available

        Cons:
        Doesn't look that cool like an ST7, 100mm GC which is quite low, cornering even at moderate speeds will scrap the fot pegs and exhaust, seat height is higher than ST7
        Gowri... Thanks for the objectively put views.

        Some Comments and questions -

        1. I know that the saddle height and ground clearance are important... but I have read srisetty's comments on the same and he insists that it is not going to be much of a problem if the HD Superlow negotiates speed breakers at a slow speed. I am not sure if it is that big a disadvantage.

        2. Also, I understand that the ex-showroom price of ST7 is 5,77,000 while the HD Sportster XL 883L is 6,95,000. (as specified on xbhp bike selector).
        Now, I assume that this model is the Superlow. While the HD website states the price at 5,50,000(ex-showroom delhi).

        Can you clarify this for me? Any idea of the Bangalore ex-showroom price for HD Superlow?


        3. I also agree that the HD beats Hyosung with a better engine (higher displacement and proven track record)

        4. Looks are pretty subjective in nature. I personally think that the Superlow is cool as hell and Hyosung is also pretty badass. Totally depends on you how you look at it. I would prefer engine over looks.

        5. The low saddle height does reduce the lean angles for the Superlow. But that should not be a problem. I am quoting motorcycle-usa.com here:

        Harley admitted that the increased rider-friendliness of the SuperLow came at the sacrifice of lean angle. Again, this shouldn’t be a concern to the demographic the motorcycle is intended for.
        i.e. the bike is intended for beginners taking first steps towards cruisers.

        6. I have been eyeing the Hyosung ST7 for quite some time now... it is beautiful but I feel despite the improvements made by Koreans, the ST7 still does not match the quality and overall finish of the Superlow.


        Despite all of the above points my heart was leaning towards Hyosung ST7 but the following videos made me a Superlow fan.

        I feel the final decision can be taken only after a test ride of the two beauties.
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        • #49
          HD Sportster XL 883L is the SuperLow but its ex showroom delhi is 5.5 L
          and look wise if u keep both side by side, u can say each to his own but quality wise HD beats Hyosung - hand down, i have ridden the super low and own a 48 both have the same clearence, i have scrapped the bottom a few time but that was when i had just got her but now that i have gotten used to the GC i dont scrap anymore, i am sure u will adjust as well - nothing is perfect
          But i would recommend ride both the bike for sometime and whichever calls to u more, buy that one
          Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Raoul Black View Post
            HD Sportster XL 883L is the SuperLow but its ex showroom delhi is 5.5 L
            and look wise if u keep both side by side, u can say each to his own but quality wise HD beats Hyosung - hand down, i have ridden the super low and own a 48 both have the same clearence, i have scrapped the bottom a few time but that was when i had just got her but now that i have gotten used to the GC i dont scrap anymore, i am sure u will adjust as well - nothing is perfect
            But i would recommend ride both the bike for sometime and whichever calls to u more, buy that one
            Thanks for the clarification on price Raoul.

            So we now have confirmation from two HD owners (Raoul and Srisetty) that the low GC problems can be avoided. That is very heartening to know.

            Personally, I prefer the HD's looks... and the thick coats of paint... holy god they know how to paint their bikes!!
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            • #51
              Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post
              5. The low saddle height does reduce the lean angles for the Superlow. But that should not be a problem. I am quoting motorcycle-usa.com here:

              i.e. the bike is intended for beginners taking first steps towards cruisers.

              6. I have been eyeing the Hyosung ST7 for quite some time now... it is beautiful but I feel despite the improvements made by Koreans, the ST7 still does not match the quality and overall finish of the Superlow.


              Despite all of the above points my heart was leaning towards Hyosung ST7 but the following videos made me a Superlow fan.

              [CENTER]YouTube - ‪Harley Davidson Super Low 883 - Riding impression & sound‬‏

              I feel the final decision can be taken only after a test ride of the two beauties.
              Originally posted by Raoul Black View Post
              HD Sportster XL 883L is the SuperLow but its ex showroom delhi is 5.5 L
              and look wise if u keep both side by side, u can say each to his own but quality wise HD beats Hyosung - hand down, i have ridden the super low and own a 48 both have the same clearence, i have scrapped the bottom a few time but that was when i had just got her but now that i have gotten used to the GC i dont scrap anymore, i am sure u will adjust as well - nothing is perfect
              But i would recommend ride both the bike for sometime and whichever calls to u more, buy that one
              Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post
              Personally, I prefer the HD's looks... and the thick coats of paint... holy god they know how to paint their bikes!!
              I am in the exact same boat. After listening to the Screaming eagle exhaust in the above video (I had seen it earlier, forgot to mention in my previous post), I am more and more siding towards Harley.

              More than the GC, it's the leaning clearance that is the issue as far as I know. The foot pegs come with some stubs which along with the exhaust pipes, touch down pre-maturely taking away the 'cool' feel in corners.

              It's good to know from Raoul's post that the overall GC can be lived with sans any big trouble. (Yea, SriSetty's Iron 883 has a Gc of 120mm - 20mm greater than the superlow and the 48).

              Still, have to ride both these machines to get a feel before deciding.
              Thanks,
              Gowri R.Varadhan

              - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Gowri View Post
                I am in the exact same boat. After listening to the Screaming eagle exhaust in the above video (I had seen it earlier, forgot to mention in my previous post), I am more and more siding towards Harley.

                More than the GC, it's the leaning clearance that is the issue as far as I know. The foot pegs come with some stubs which along with the exhaust pipes, touch down pre-maturely taking away the 'cool' feel in corners.

                It's good to know from Raoul's post that the overall GC can be lived with sans any big trouble. (Yea, SriSetty's Iron 883 has a Gc of 120mm - 20mm greater than the superlow and the 48).

                Still, have to ride both these machines to get a feel before deciding.
                Haha... looks like the Harley sound has worked its magic.

                Had I been you... i would not try to lean with a tourer. The "coolness" is already pretty overwhelming when the bike is doing a straight line. Would not want to blind the traffic with an extra dash.

                Do ride both before deciding... however, I am not sure if the test rides for SuperLow are available.

                ^^ Can anyone else clarify on the above?
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post
                  Haha... looks like the Harley sound has worked its magic.

                  Had I been you... i would not try to lean with a tourer. The "coolness" is already pretty overwhelming when the bike is doing a straight line. Would not want to blind the traffic with an extra dash.

                  Do ride both before deciding... however, I am not sure if the test rides for SuperLow are available.

                  ^^ Can anyone else clarify on the above?
                  They don't give a super low for test ride but they happily give you the iron if u go with the right riding gear
                  Tourers are not meant for corner carving and once you accept this fact and it's limitations you'll be happy
                  I've been a bigger Harley fan ever since I test rode one.. Go ahead and test ride one and your decision making will become much more easy...
                  1985 yezdi cl2 -sold
                  1996 SCOOTY-SOLD
                  1997 RXG- RESTORED
                  2012 Harley-Davidson Superlow
                  1971 Vespa 150
                  1989 yamaha rd350
                  1996 yezdi roaching better than new
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by eyedocsri View Post
                    They don't give a super low for test ride but they happily give you the iron if u go with the right riding gear
                    Tourers are not meant for corner carving and once you accept this fact and it's limitations you'll be happy
                    I've been a bigger Harley fan ever since I test rode one.. Go ahead and test ride one and your decision making will become much more easy...
                    Absolutely. I am not expecting the Harley to carve the corner like my R15 does, neither can it. But then, the fact remains that even before we realize that we are in a corner, the bike reminds you by scrapping the road. Ofcourse, this information is not first hand, but what I have read in multiple reviews in other review sites from the Western countries.
                    Thanks,
                    Gowri R.Varadhan

                    - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                    • #55
                      Harley !!!! the ST7 could have reliability issues later!!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pandeymitul View Post
                        Harley !!!! the ST7 could have reliability issues later!!
                        And why would ST7 have reliability issues? and of what kind??
                        Thanks,
                        Gowri R.Varadhan

                        - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                        • #57
                          ST7 or Iron 883

                          Hi, I want to buy a cruiser and I have zeroed down to ST7 and Iron 883. This is where its getting difficult and looking for some help.

                          ST7
                          - Looks awesome with all that chrome
                          - Low seat, gives lot of confidence in handling
                          - Big fuel tank, 17L
                          - Very silent
                          - Good ground clearance 155mm, no need to worry on speed breakers etc
                          - Not so expensive accessories, I plan to load it fully.
                          - 15 days waiting
                          - I save 1.5L
                          - Reviews says better suspension

                          Iron 883
                          - Its Harley Davidson
                          - Awesome sound and with screaming eagle its going to be hell lot better.
                          - Low ground clearance 120mm, need to be careful
                          - Accessories are expensive, need to get them slowly.
                          - 6 months waiting
                          - Very small fuel tank. 12.5L
                          - Owners say suspension not great but can manage.

                          If I go for value for money ST7 looks like decent choice (assuming i can trust hyosung as much as HD for bike quality) but if I go for look/style/sound/brand value HD is obvious choice. I am also ignoring power/millage etc as both of the give almost same.

                          Ideally it would be really helpful to be able to connect with ST7 owners to get some real feedback. I see Sri has given good feedback on Iron 883 which was really helpful.

                          Anyone else has done any research on these bikes? Any suggestions? Please educate/guide me.

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                          • #58
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by tima View Post
                              Hi, I want to buy a cruiser and I have zeroed down to ST7 and Iron 883. This is where its getting difficult and looking for some help.

                              ST7
                              - Looks awesome with all that chrome
                              - Low seat, gives lot of confidence in handling
                              - Big fuel tank, 17L
                              - Very silent
                              - Good ground clearance 155mm, no need to worry on speed breakers etc
                              - Not so expensive accessories, I plan to load it fully.
                              - 15 days waiting
                              - I save 1.5L
                              - Reviews says better suspension

                              Iron 883
                              - Its Harley Davidson
                              - Awesome sound and with screaming eagle its going to be hell lot better.
                              - Low ground clearance 120mm, need to be careful
                              - Accessories are expensive, need to get them slowly.
                              - 6 months waiting
                              - Very small fuel tank. 12.5L
                              - Owners say suspension not great but can manage.

                              If I go for value for money ST7 looks like decent choice (assuming i can trust hyosung as much as HD for bike quality) but if I go for look/style/sound/brand value HD is obvious choice. I am also ignoring power/millage etc as both of the give almost same.

                              Ideally it would be really helpful to be able to connect with ST7 owners to get some real feedback. I see Sri has given good feedback on Iron 883 which was really helpful.

                              Anyone else has done any research on these bikes? Any suggestions? Please educate/guide me.
                              Me too waiting for ownership reviews for ST7 on xBHP. Unfortunately, could not spot one yet.

                              Also, the waiting time for Iron 883 is nearly 6 months and by then, the prices are expected to go up. This is because of Indian' Govt's increasing the taxes/duty for CKD route too. For the year 2011, Harley Davidson were generous to absorb the extra cost for the bikes assembled in INdia and did not hike the prices after the budget. However, that will not hold true for the coming year.
                              Thanks,
                              Gowri R.Varadhan

                              - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                              • #60
                                Bangalore Hyosung showroom is opening on 9th Sep and they are going to give delivery within a week. I am also told they will introduce me to ST7 owners 2 or 3 are already delivered from chennai.

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