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  • #61
    Originally posted by tima View Post
    Bangalore Hyosung showroom is opening on 9th Sep and they are going to give delivery within a week. I am also told they will introduce me to ST7 owners 2 or 3 are already delivered from chennai.
    Visited the showroom. They don't have vehicles for test ride yet. It might be available in 2-3 weeks time. But they do have both GT650R and ST7 for display.

    What disappointed me was that the exhaust note of ST7 does not give a thumping feeling at all for a cruiser. This along with its peak power and torque coming above 7000 RPM mark are a telling consequence of retuning the GT650R engine.

    However, dimension wise, this is huge. It's longer than the Harley Davidson FatBoy.
    Thanks,
    Gowri R.Varadhan

    - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Gowri View Post
      Visited the showroom. They don't have vehicles for test ride yet. It might be available in 2-3 weeks time. But they do have both GT650R and ST7 for display.
      Yes, I called them to find that out so will visit only after they have bike for test ride.


      Originally posted by Gowri View Post
      What disappointed me was that the exhaust note of ST7 does not give a thumping feeling at all for a cruiser. This along with its peak power and torque coming above 7000 RPM mark are a telling consequence of retuning the GT650R engine.
      Thats exactly my problem I have been searching everywhere if there is something like 'screaming eagle' available for these bikes but no success so far.

      Does anyone know of anyone or has anyone seen anything online about modifying the exhaust?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by tima View Post
        Thats exactly my problem I have been searching everywhere if there is something like 'screaming eagle' available for these bikes but no success so far.

        Does anyone know of anyone or has anyone seen anything online about modifying the exhaust?
        To my knowledge Screaming Eagles are only for the Harley Davidsons.
        I searched with Vance & Hines and Bassani pipes, but could not find any for Hyosung bikes.
        Thanks,
        Gowri R.Varadhan

        - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Gowri View Post
          Visited the showroom. They don't have vehicles for test ride yet. It might be available in 2-3 weeks time. But they do have both GT650R and ST7 for display.

          What disappointed me was that the exhaust note of ST7 does not give a thumping feeling at all for a cruiser. This along with its peak power and torque coming above 7000 RPM mark are a telling consequence of retuning the GT650R engine.

          However, dimension wise, this is huge. It's longer than the Harley Davidson FatBoy.
          Is the exhaust note at least having some character or is it simply silent? If you love the exhaust notes, HD is the choice bro. There is so much of options. I actually liked the exhaust note of Rocket III, which was not noisy, but had a lot of depth.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by srisetty View Post
            Is the exhaust note at least having some character or is it simply silent? If you love the exhaust notes, HD is the choice bro. There is so much of options. I actually liked the exhaust note of Rocket III, which was not noisy, but had a lot of depth.
            I am now torn between the exhaust note of HD and immediate availability of ST7. The feel of HD bikes are awesome. I had recently ridden the Street Bob with screaming eagle performance kit, Fat Boy and the Iron 883 and they are awesome. (Actually, after riding the Street Bob and the FatBoy, Iron 883 felt like a bicycle).

            ST7 did have a decently loud exhaust and was not totally silent. Can only decide if it has proper cruiser characteristics after the test ride. If it can even give 50% of the grin that the HD bikes gave, it would be worth a trial.

            Else, I just have to wait until the 2012 Harley models and their prices are available to us in India. Also hoping that HD will start assembling more models of their bigger bikes in India.
            Thanks,
            Gowri R.Varadhan

            - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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            • #66
              Originally posted by srisetty View Post
              Is the exhaust note at least having some character or is it simply silent?
              I heard it couple of months back and if my memory is correct it had 'some' character but after hearing screaming eagle or even the stock exhaust of HD it will come under silent category only

              6 months is just too long a wait for HD

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              • #67
                So, are you buying a ST7 then?
                Thanks,
                Gowri R.Varadhan

                - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Gowri View Post
                  So, are you buying a ST7 then?
                  99%, waiting for test ride. Also hoping increase in petrol price will reduce their sales and they will give discount (like car people have started doing)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by tima View Post
                    99%, waiting for test ride.
                    I don't see the Bangalore showroom giving bikes for test rides in near future. May take atleast another month or two. I had already visited the showroom twice. They are hell-bent on selling all the motorcycles they receive.

                    Originally posted by tima View Post
                    Also hoping increase in petrol price will reduce their sales and they will give discount (like car people have started doing)
                    Hahaha. I wish it happens; but strongly doubt the possibility.
                    Thanks,
                    Gowri R.Varadhan

                    - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                    • #70
                      Took a test drive of Hyosung ST7 (and GT650R). For a sports bike, GT 650R is quite good inpite of engine and throttle not being well refined. If I were to choose a 650 CC sports bike, I would choose GT650R over Ninja 650 (which is a tourer).

                      But this thread is about cruisers. So here is my experience on St7: Got about 1 km ride in heavy Monday-evening traffic. The bike is extremely comfortable once we get used to the forward foot pegs in cruiser-styling. It will be great for long distance mile-munching and has a great leaning angle (for a cruiser) and 150mm ground clearance.

                      All these should make this bike a no-brainer - well it is on paper. But there is one biggest drawback that got true as I expected. There is NO THUMP and this being a high revving engine, did not excite me at all.

                      After riding the St7, my brother and I visited a RE showroom nearby and test rode the ThunderBird and Classic 500. Guess what, after the Harleys, the Royal Enfield bullets have a great feel to them. Just cranking up the engine gave us goose bumps and my brother is already hooked and has decided to go for a RE Classic 500.

                      So, if one is a thumper lover, the ST7 is not for him. The Harley Davidson would easily win the contest. But, if one needs just a good cruiser and doesn't care much about the sports bike like exhaust note or the high revving nature of the engine, the ST7 is fairly a very good bike.
                      Last edited by Gowri; 09-27-2011, 03:03 PM.
                      Thanks,
                      Gowri R.Varadhan

                      - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Gowri View Post
                        So, if one is a thumper lover, the ST7 is not for him. The Harley Davidson would easily win the contest.
                        Showroom guy told that company is in talk with two bros and one more company and we may see muflers from them within a month. They will be available via the showroom/company only.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by tima View Post
                          Showroom guy told that company is in talk with two bros and one more company and we may see muflers from them within a month. They will be available via the showroom/company only.
                          Not quite sure if just changing the muffler would change the characteristics of the engine. It definitely will have a different grunt though.

                          But I doubt if it will still compensate for the missing torquiness in the lower and mid range RPMs.
                          Last edited by Gowri; 09-28-2011, 12:56 PM.
                          Thanks,
                          Gowri R.Varadhan

                          - Biking without speeding is useless; speeding without safety is madness -

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                          • #73
                            Does the M800 excite you?

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                            • #74
                              ST7 makes 57 Nm @ 7000 rpm VS 70 Nm @ 3750 rpm of HD Superlow.. ST7 is not even in the same league + it produces less torque so high in rpm range for a cruiser. It will never be as punchy as HD Superlow.. Moreover Superlow's engine is Push Rod, no matter what pipe u put on ST7.. it will never sound as good as HD. HD's aircooled engine is best suited for Indian summer. HD has better customization option even in India, and support is better too.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by nitinsen View Post
                                ST7 makes 57 Nm @ 7000 rpm VS 70 Nm @ 3750 rpm of HD Superlow.. ST7 is not even in the same league + it produces less torque so high in rpm range for a cruiser. It will never be as punchy as HD Superlow.. Moreover Superlow's engine is Push Rod, no matter what pipe u put on ST7.. it will never sound as good as HD. HD's aircooled engine is best suited for Indian summer. HD has better customization option even in India, and support is better too.
                                With a GC of 100mm, how do you expect the Superlow to cross the 'Great Indian Speed Breakers'? What will you do with all that good musical Harley sound when all you can hear is the oncoming KHRRRRR at the next speed breaker. For that point alone, I consider the ST7 an overall better option. But that is what I think. Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

                                Edit: Maybe another reason why I prefer the ST7 over the Harleys is because I don't like thumpers too much and the Harleys are exactly that.
                                Last edited by antz.bin; 12-29-2011, 02:25 PM.
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