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  • #16
    If mileage is not a concern, ZMA, R15, P220, A180, ZMR
    Mix of Mileage and Top speed : GS150R, Dazzler.
    Good Mileage with a little compromize on Top speed : D150, SZ-R,CBZ, Hunk, Unicorn, P150.
    Some of the Happiest people in the world don't have everything. They just make the best of everything life brings their way !!! Stay happy, Smile always :)

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    • #17
      Its the P220 all the way...
      ZMR, if you can compromise a bit on performance for the sake of reliability...
      But my vote would go for P220....take care of the beast,it will always perform better...
      HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
        ZMR will again give some 17.6 PS with good low end torque, but trust me, you might get bored after some months. Plus, its not too good of a city bike.
        as per your comment I would like to ask you, from how many months you are using ZMR?

        its been more than a year & couple of months for me & i ride my bike daily around 60kms for my office n still I love every ride even more then previous one..ZMR might lack in top end from P220(not very behind though) but ZMR's low end is one among the best in Indian Bikes, & for city riding you'll get much fun on ZMR while riding..
        Suzuki Gixxer - Current
        Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
        Apache RTR160 - Sold
        Honda Stunner - Sold
        LML Energy - Sold

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        • #19
          i agree with Samarth. u do get bored with the ZMR.
          RTR is not for you. Its not much of a tourer, though it has a great top end, but rear seat comfort is terrible. i know, it was the only reason my Gf used to favour buses and trains!!
          Go for the 220. just keep in mind u have to care and caress it. Or consequences.....
          Know Ur Limits..
          Its Fun Crossing Them Later..

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          • #20
            if you don't own a particular bike then how can you assume that a person will get bored with it? I never came across any ZMR owner who got bored with his ride, its a different matter if you don't like ZMR from starting but still end up buying it, anyone can even post in ZMR ownership thread & check if anyone is bored of his vehicle..

            Don't misguide others only on your own assumptions..
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            • #21
              guys, i have respect for the zmr, but its just not my vehicle. I don pass up the chance to stare at a chick to check ot a zmr. But if a p220, apache 180, or an r15 pass by i say hell to the girl and i'm glued to the bike. I've seen the zmr... amazing bike, but not for me. I'm more into the engineering of a bike, and the zmr: poor engineering. The only turn off for me. Hero motorcorp is doing the bike injustice. Period. The main reason i'm attracted to the others is the sheer Performance each has in its forte. R15: 150cc. pure power house in its segment. The p220: 21 horses. The rtr: nothing beats the engineering of this beast on the track but the r15. The zmr: jack of all, but sadly the ace of none.
              Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                guys, i have respect for the zmr, but its just not my vehicle. I don pass up the chance to stare at a chick to check ot a zmr. But if a p220, apache 180, or an r15 pass by i say hell to the girl and i'm glued to the bike. I've seen the zmr... amazing bike, but not for me. I'm more into the engineering of a bike, and the zmr: poor engineering. The only turn off for me. Hero motorcorp is doing the bike injustice. Period. The main reason i'm attracted to the others is the sheer Performance each has in its forte. R15: 150cc. pure power house in its segment. The p220: 21 horses. The rtr: nothing beats the engineering of this beast on the track but the r15. The zmr: jack of all, but sadly the ace of none.
                correctly said but that statement is negative for some people but positive for few as well cuz those who want a balanced bike will go by this statement, few might want more top end by sacrificing comfort or reliability but few might sacrifice top end or track capabilities for latter features & i am one among them as i feel its more practical as i might not hit the track ever with my bike but i'll tour on it a lot & i want comfortable riding on 120's smoothly with faith in my bike that it won't go wrong while ditching me in the middle..

                As per you i feel P220 will suit your needs more then R15 or RTR..just maintain it properly..
                Suzuki Gixxer - Current
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                  The rtr: nothing beats the engineering of this beast on the track but the r15. The zmr: jack of all, but sadly the ace of none.
                  The RTR has been beaten on the track by a good margin by R15, P220 and CBR250 (Test among RTR, R15, P220, CBR250) by Bike India. Besides, your title of the thread says "Best all rounder" which incidentally by the same magazine rate the ZMR as the best all rounder. And I guess by any reasonable account, it is a jack of all trade and master of none bike. Thats what makes it a best all rounder at the first place.

                  So I guess you need to make up your mind on what you want.

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                  • #24
                    feed back appreciated. But i came to hear the new r15 has been tuned for low end torque. Which is my reason for confusion. I'm not looking at the likes of the p220 or the cbr anymore... Coz the cbr is out f my budget. The p220 while affordable initially has high maintenance cost. Do not get me wrong: I am not judging the zmr. Opinions differ. The zmr's styling is not my thing. But that doesn't mean 'm leavin it out. Every thing u guys r saying makes a difference. Yes u are right... 'M looking for an all rounder n the zmr checks all. But is it the best?
                    Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                    Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                    Break-in tension? Read this.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                      feed back appreciated. But i came to hear the new r15 has been tuned for low end torque. Which is my reason for confusion. I'm not looking at the likes of the p220 or the cbr anymore... Coz the cbr is out f my budget. The p220 while affordable initially has high maintenance cost. Do not get me wrong: I am not judging the zmr. Opinions differ. The zmr's styling is not my thing. But that doesn't mean 'm leavin it out. Every thing u guys r saying makes a difference. Yes u are right... 'M looking for an all rounder n the zmr checks all. But is it the best?
                      yes ZMR checks all your needs & it might not be best in a single forte but it has all capabilities which will suffice a rider's need on Indian Roads..but still i would say if you don't like that bike from inside then leave that option as you should buy only that bike which you really want, other things are secondary, you'll adjust yourself with R15's seating position n other cons or you'll yourself maintain P220 properly if you like those bikes so just listen to your heart & go with that..
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                      Apache RTR160 - Sold
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                      LML Energy - Sold

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                        feed back appreciated. But i came to hear the new r15 has been tuned for low end torque. Which is my reason for confusion. I'm not looking at the likes of the p220 or the cbr anymore... Coz the cbr is out f my budget. The p220 while affordable initially has high maintenance cost. Do not get me wrong: I am not judging the zmr. Opinions differ. The zmr's styling is not my thing. But that doesn't mean 'm leavin it out. Every thing u guys r saying makes a difference. Yes u are right... 'M looking for an all rounder n the zmr checks all. But is it the best?
                        nothing is best. every bike has its pros and cons over the other.
                        according to your need ZMR suits so well but since u dont want it go for P220, its a beast and will remain a beast if you can maintain it well. test ride b4 you buy.
                        speed thrills but kills if you dont have skills

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                        • #27
                          There's nothing as best, its always better, sooner or later you will find something better than the one you consider best today.

                          In your shoes, I would not look beyond, ZMR or P220. Though I'm not an every day communter, so I would have choosed the R15. You will have to compramise with rider comfort and depending upon hieght, maybe rider comfort (if your going for long rides)
                          When I was in your case I picked up the ZMA which use to give me mileage of 25-28kmpl, which at the time I passed out of college was enough to aford (Keeping in mind the fuel costs were less)
                          Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                          • #28
                            hey thanks a lot guys. As if to add to my confusion... I checked out the ktm duke 200... everywhere they say good mileage expected... Now what to do? Can anyone help me with that? Any info on the duke is welcome
                            Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                            Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                            Break-in tension? Read this.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                              hey thanks a lot guys. As if to add to my confusion... I checked out the ktm duke 200... everywhere they say good mileage expected... Now what to do? Can anyone help me with that? Any info on the duke is welcome

                              It totally depends how you define " good mileage". For me my ZMA giving me a fe of 35km/ltr after 6 yrs is a good mileage...a R15 giving a fe of 40-45km/ltr is a good mileage...a P220 giving a mileage of 45km/ltr is agood mileage whereas a splendour/passion/discover etc. giving 35km/ltr is bad mileage. What I am trying to say is mileage is considere good or bad when compared to the bike's performance. The bikes in question here are performance bikes. So anything around 30-35km/ltr is good enough. If you are expecting a mileage of over 40km/lyt from Duke 200, you will be dissapointed. AFAIK, it might get a 25 ps heart, so a fe of about 30-35 is good enough for Duke 200.

                              Now comimg to the topic on ZMR. Its a personal choice who likes it or dislikes it. I personally do not like its looks , rather I liked the look of the ZMA. And thats the reason got myself a pre-owned ZMA(2005 model).

                              Hope could answer your questions.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                                It totally depends how you define " good mileage". For me my ZMA giving me a fe of 35km/ltr after 6 yrs is a good mileage...a R15 giving a fe of 40-45km/ltr is a good mileage...a P220 giving a mileage of 45km/ltr is agood mileage whereas a splendour/passion/discover etc. giving 35km/ltr is bad mileage. What I am trying to say is mileage is considere good or bad when compared to the bike's performance. The bikes in question here are performance bikes. So anything around 30-35km/ltr is good enough. If you are expecting a mileage of over 40km/lyt from Duke 200, you will be dissapointed. AFAIK, it might get a 25 ps heart, so a fe of about 30-35 is good enough for Duke 200.

                                Now comimg to the topic on ZMR. Its a personal choice who likes it or dislikes it. I personally do not like its looks , rather I liked the look of the ZMA. And thats the reason got myself a pre-owned ZMA(2005 model).

                                Hope could answer your questions.
                                rightly said. I don favor the zmr either. And yes, by good mileage i am aware it could be around 35 to 40 kmpl. But that is my secondary concern. I want a bike which can serve as more than a daily commuter. A bike that can withstand touring and give me good enuf mileade on the highway is wat i'm looking for. i'm just lost. everyone has their own opinions and i don wanna trust the company's word about their bike. Sadly, no ownership threads for the new r15
                                Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                                Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                                Break-in tension? Read this.

                                Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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