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  • #46
    Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
    Yes so if 1bhp is "underpowered" then Unicorn is the mother of all mopeds
    Precisely.. it is bought for high reliability and FE. Thats the reason HMSI had to launch the 14bhp (14.2 Ps) Dazzler. As of now, Fazer / FZ series develops the least actual horsepower among all 150cc bikes launched since January 2009. Whatever you might contend this with, this fact always shows its ugly head on the highways.
    Last edited by antz.bin; 03-06-2012, 05:24 PM.
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    • #47
      In the same way the difference isnt something that can get it branded as "Under powered"
      No manufacturer in India gives the accurate RWhp figures, and even if they did ~1 bhp is hardly noticable. People buy the Fazer for its looks just like they buy the Unicorn for some reason. The chap who "Suggested" to buy the Fazer did so basis the "looks" itself
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      • #48
        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        In the same way the difference isnt something that can get it branded as "Under powered"
        actually unicorn doesn't run out of breath after 90 like fz.
        and the question remains why do i race?
        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
        #overkill is underrated.
        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
          i totally disagree with you,it is hoot to ride,don't complain about sporty riding position,it goes with the dynamics with the bike.
          Be my guest!
          It was my personal opinion and I shall stick to it
          BTW,the complaint was on the braking,it skids like hell if you brake a bit too hard and it was a little 'unsettled' on the hi-speed runs.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Vishwas Bharadwaj View Post
            Be my guest!
            It was my personal opinion and I shall stick to it
            BTW,the complaint was on the braking,it skids like hell if you brake a bit too hard and it was a little 'unsettled' on the hi-speed runs.
            any bike will skid if you don't know the proper technique of braking,apache's rotor petal is a sharp one,it is there for its purpose.

            about high speed stability,at what speed you felt un-stable?
            and the question remains why do i race?
            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
            #overkill is underrated.
            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
              actually unicorn doesn't run out of breath after 90 like fz.
              I have ridden the FZ a fair bit, its doesnt run out of breath there, it begins running out of breath at a speedo indicated 104~108. Mind validate your info on the ownership thread?
              The FZ is designed to be a streetfighter, so the peak power in both torque and bhp are achieved earlier than in Unicorn. But thats not even the point.


              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
              any bike will skid if you don't know the proper technique of braking,apache's rotor petal is a sharp one,it is there for its purpose.

              about high speed stability,at what speed you felt un-stable?
              He is probably referring to the rubbers being used on the RTR..
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              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
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              • #52
                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                I have ridden the FZ a fair bit, its doesnt run out of breath there, it begins running out of breath at a speedo indicated 104~108. Mind validate your info on the ownership thread?
                The FZ is designed to be a streetfighter, so the peak power in both torque and bhp are achieved earlier than in Unicorn. But thats not even the point.
                fz definitely feels stressed after 90,while unicorn stays butter smooth,yeah i agree it has been built for different purpose,so much low end torque.


                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                He is probably referring to the rubbers being used on the RTR..
                everyone here has a problem with poor tvs rubber.i say,on dry tarmac tvs is as good as nylogrip,if not better,same can't be said about wel and gravel tarmac,apache 150 used to have poor rubber,tvs has improved,tyre is in well sync with the handling of the bike.
                and the question remains why do i race?
                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                #overkill is underrated.
                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  fz definitely feels stressed after 90,while unicorn stays butter smooth,yeah i agree it has been built for different purpose,so much low end torque.




                  everyone here has a problem with poor tvs rubber.i say,on dry tarmac tvs is as good as nylogrip,if not better,same can't be said about wel and gravel tarmac,apache 150 used to have poor rubber,tvs has improved,tyre is in well sync with the handling of the bike.
                  Are you kidding me??? I have used Fz on corners and straights.
                  Agree with satyen a bit, but yes then red line shifts come handy...Also Fz is much better in terms of flickability and while cornering than the Unicorn...

                  EDIT - Particularly on the Unicorn Dazzler-
                  Cornering this bike is fun but the seating posture does not allow you to zoom past a FZ if they were in competition. The seating posture is bit upright, also the rear disc brake bite is much harder ensuring a good chunky wobble if you are not positioned properly.
                  The Fz allows space and so much comfort when you are cornering, yes it is bit low end when going uphill, you can feel the 150 pushing hard... but all comes into effect when red lining over the 7k rpm till the blinker comes into effect.
                  Last edited by Eshan-P180; 03-06-2012, 07:15 PM.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                    Are you kidding me??? I have used Fz on corners and straights.
                    Agree with satyen a bit, but yes then red line shifts come handy...Also Fz is much better in terms of flickability and while cornering than the Unicorn...
                    nobody is complaining about fz's handling,it definitely suffers at high speed.i have ridden both fz and unicorn extensively,i prefer unicorn at high speeds.
                    and the question remains why do i race?
                    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                    #overkill is underrated.
                    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                      nobody is complaining about fz's handling,it definitely suffers at high speed.i have ridden both fz and unicorn extensively,i prefer unicorn at high speeds.
                      Watch me fly when a corner comes...

                      The seating posture is okay for long rides on the Unicorn, no doubt but you aint got that juice in it...

                      Also the Uni is 138 kgs in front of the 135kg Fz...
                      Its not all on the huge tire of the Fz, not at all. Equated on its engine, posture and weight... which is much better than the Unicorn.

                      These days i feel riding a 180 apache would blast pass all of the above mentioned.

                      EDIT - And thats what you feel, we are talking here about generalized reviews based on facts and not as per liking...
                      If thats the case then screw all these options and better go for the kwacker...
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                        Watch me fly when a corner comes...

                        The seating posture is okay for long rides on the Unicorn, no doubt but you aint got that juice in it...

                        Also the Uni is 138 kgs in front of the 135kg Fz...
                        Its not all on the huge tire of the Fz, not at all. Equated on its engine, posture and weight... which is much better than the Unicorn.

                        These days i feel riding a 180 apache would blast pass all of the above mentioned.

                        EDIT - And thats what you feel, we are talking here about generalized reviews based on facts and not as per liking...
                        If thats the case then screw all these options and better go for the kwacker...
                        if to go by generalized reviews based on facts a rider would observe a unicorn to be less stressed at high speeds.

                        people have different preferences, you fly at corners,i fly at straght line.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                        #overkill is underrated.
                        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                          if to go by generalized reviews based on facts a rider would observe a unicorn to be less stressed at high speeds.

                          people have different preferences, you fly at corners,i fly at straght line.
                          How old are you??

                          Anyways my inputs are based on facts and not verbal war with anyone...

                          Would be my last post on this topic either... dont wish to confuse the person asking for doubts regarding his choice, neither see much of his involvement here in the thread.

                          Would like to conclude as
                          FZ
                          Unicorn
                          Apache RTR (too much of vibrations)

                          But the last option would be the first one if speed is on your mind... that also the 180 one!!!
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                            How old are you??
                            how does it matter anyways,does being junior in age make you less-skilled rider.
                            Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                            Anyways my inputs are based on facts and not verbal war with anyone...
                            mine too.
                            i didn't start the war,if you have fair share of knowledge about bikes i have mine too,would definitely love to know how much km have you ridden fz,for me it is 7000 odd km.
                            and the question remains why do i race?
                            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                            #overkill is underrated.
                            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                            • #59
                              My last post on this FZ vs Dazzler topic.

                              Lets outsource the analysis from an unbiased and trusted 3rd party.

                              http://bike advice.in/yamaha-fz16-ho...icorn-dazzler/
                              Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                              Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                              Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                                My last post on this FZ vs Dazzler topic.

                                Lets outsource the analysis from an unbiased and trusted 3rd party.

                                http://bike advice.in/yamaha-fz16-ho...icorn-dazzler/
                                seems like the link is broken.
                                and the question remains why do i race?
                                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                                #overkill is underrated.
                                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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