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**Samshalu** · 03-02-2012, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by prajnyan View Post

Hmmm.

The GS150R is indeed better than Honda Unicorn as it has 6 speed gearbox and no vibration due to good stabilizing crank shaft design, and gives bit better mileage and is also heavy and good for well built persons.

But this doesnt warrant to view your decision without any proof that Honda products have defects, and if at all they find even a small defect, they recall it. I can state that only drawback with going for a Honda would be investing more on bike and the cost of spares is a little higher. A kind note to you as a matter of fact the Suzuki has much more complaints and issues of less regional service centers , the proper servicing skills for the bikes as suzuki keeps updating models and so non availability of spares in general will be high, you will need to book it and get which means your bike will be staying over at service center for long time if there is a major overhaul.

Your view on Fazer is also wrong! Just as useful in city the actual bike is mainly designed for premium long rides and highway use. Very comfy suspension and rider position, low center of gravity and wide rear tyres for the best grip on high speeds, aerodynamic scoops, dual headlight for more bightness in wide highway roads etc factor to the better biking on highway. The engines cool very fast and are built for rugged environment and long rides and our Yamaha service interval is at every 3000km and yamaha spares are actually the cheapest and easily available out of the trio of japanese makes i.e honda/suzuki/yamaha, so dont say that its costly without knowing how much the spares cost. And yes the fuel economy is about 40 on highways when compared to 50 that you may get in honda or suzuki, but Yamaha Fazers's are always designed for performing the best in handling and grip, safety at cost of sacrifice to mileage.

Yamaha Fazer is nothing but FZ with a R15 front semi-fairing & a premium tourer for what,a petrol tank that can only store only 12litres of petrol,low mileage of 35-40km/L,& the 140mm rear radial tires that lack grip in wet & muddy roads & in constant for reguarly punchures...Performs good till 80-100km/hr..then struggles to reach beyond that...nothing even close to become a Tourer bike..You can't say Fazer is a tourer bike,just because Yamaha said so...Its a great bike for city riding nothing more than that.

Suzuki service network is improving now,the bad servicing issue is only in a few centres,most service centres have highly trained mechanics & technicians that provide good service backup.The complaints are coming from Access scooters do to the high demand...If found a defect they correct it..if a manufacturing defect they will replacd the scooter/bike..Suzuki GS150R has no such issues.I have made my point clear.

**sayank10** · 03-02-2012, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Samshalu View Post

the 140mm rear radial tires that lack grip in wet & muddy roads & clear.

really?
p.s.i support your points on fazer why not being a IDEAL tourer,but that wind-blast proof semi-fairing really helps.

**w4rrior** · 03-03-2012, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

really?
p.s.i support your points on fazer why not being a IDEAL tourer,but that wind-blast proof semi-fairing really helps.

why do you need a WIND-BLAST PROOF SEMIFAIRING when the bike struggle to hit 100kmph? It's definately not a able tourer and not the best CITY-USE bike either. If you think it's the best bike for him, i'd suggest him to extend his budget by about 5-8k and get a ZMA (which is far better than Fazer in terms of performance)

**sayank10** · 03-03-2012, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

why do you need a WIND-BLAST PROOF SEMIFAIRING when the bike struggle to hit 100kmph?

try riding on highways at 100+kmph,the windblast that hit your chest sure hurts,here semi-fairing helps,fazer thus have a relatively high topspeed than fz.

**w4rrior** · 03-03-2012, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

try riding on highways at 100+kmph,the windblast that hit your chest sure hurts,here semi-fairing helps,fazer thus have a relatively high topspeed than fz.

yeah i tried to do that in my friend's bike, but it couldn't go beyond 102kmph and wind blast wasn't THAT BAD (didn't hurt my chest at all). And are you serious that fazer is faster than fz. Because i think if you crouch in fz maybe it could go faster as it's lighter than fazer.

**sayank10** · 03-03-2012, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

yeah i tried to do that in my friend's bike, but it couldn't go beyond 102kmph and wind blast wasn't THAT BAD (didn't hurt my chest at all). And are you serious that fazer is faster than fz. Because i think if you crouch in fz maybe it could go faster as it's lighter than fazer.

if crouching solves all problem then we wouldn't have seen fairings on tourer.
yeah i am very much sure fazer has a higher top speed,mere 5 kg weight doesn't hamper top-speed.actually weight doesn't even play a role in top-speed.

**raja_roadster** · 03-03-2012, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by ramsuresh View Post

Dear friends,

Currently I own TVS Flame 125cc and planning to buy a new bike but confused of which one to go with. I use it for city rides and for short rides of around 150 to 200 kms a day.

Can you just let me know which one to go with.......

Since you lived up the tvs way apache would be a good way to upgrade ;
@thread starter where have you gone its been three pages by now, no word from you.

**sayank10** · 03-03-2012, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by raja_roadster View Post

Since you lived up the tvs way apache would be a good way to upgrade ;

hey thread-starter are you listening?

**w4rrior** · 03-03-2012, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

if crouching solves all problem then we wouldn't have seen fairings on tourer.
yeah i ma very much sure fazer has a higher top speed,mere 5 kg weight doesn't hamper top-speed.actually weight doesn't even play a role in top-speed.

I told to use crouch method in fz to make it go faster and not for touring. In tourers, people can't crouch all day long.. so fairing is present. And dude how can you say that weight doesn't play a role in top speed? It does play a major role (maybe not in fazer as only about 5kgs difference) Try to attain the top speed in your bike with a pillion. It surely can't attain the speed that you've attained riding alone.

**sayank10** · 03-03-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

Try to attain the top speed in your bike with a pillion. It surely can't attain the speed that you've attained riding alone.

i was talking about chasis's weight.

**prateek2210** · 03-03-2012, 01:39 AM

My few cents :

Unicorn - One of the smoothest engines out of the three. But as compared a little bit outdated. Consider the same engine in Dazzler. Honda engine for unicorn is one of the best in mileage too out of these three. Fits your bill for the next 2-3 years, even more
Fazer - Ultimate street / city bike, but mileage will be a negative factor. For solo touring it fits the bill but with a pillion its a pain for the latter.
Apache ABS - I ride this so will be a little biased. but yes it will definitely make you happy , just be careful with the initial torque it has , have to shell the highest out of the three though

**sayank10** · 03-03-2012, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

have to shell the highest out of the three though

didn't get you?i guess fazer costs more than rtr.

**prateek2210** · 03-03-2012, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

didn't get you?i guess fazer costs more than rtr.

I have taken the ABS in consideration here due to safety reasons. Will edit the post. Thanks for pointing out

**jitubhai** · 03-03-2012, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Samshalu View Post

Looking at your demands of 150-200 kms/day & city riding,I suggest you Suzuki GS150R instead of Unicorn,as you must know Honda servicing is bad & most of their products have defects.Suzuki's servicing is really good & GS150R is a high quality 150cc bike with very less maintenance & no much complaints,best in its class for long riding,no vibrations even at speeds above 80km/hr & top speed....now this bike is also good for city riding as the new model has better intial pickup.So I recommend you Suzuki GS150R,its a true value for money product.

Yamaha Fazer is also a good bike,FE is low & maintenance is also very high but if for a city rides this bike will be good,not that good for long riding.
Apache is only good for short city rides,the seating poistion is not that comfortable aspecially for long riding & vibrates badly at high speeds.I recommend you Suzuki GS150R.

i m agree with maestro i m using this bike from two years its great having low end features like uni and high end is not compareble because of sixth gear and balancer technology ,it is more refined after 2 years ,i hav ridden other bikes also but it is the queen of all ,king is bullet forever

**Wing** · 03-04-2012, 02:03 PM

Friends, thanks for all the suggestions that you have given me........after going through the thread.....I have selected 2 bikes GS 150R and Unicorn.....as per your suggestion I see to that GS 150R doesn't have vibrations at high speeds I am planning to go with...can you tell me whether it's a good decisions......

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