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  • i was an happy owner of karizma r.
    i can say you in simple words KARIZMA R is an SPLENDOR with an bigger heart(except mileage).
    its comfy, its reliable but its not for a boy racer.
    yeah the bike has torque and has enough power but you wont feel like pushing and i also felt more vibes after 115 or so and it was like a splendor struggling in 80s .


    If you get a pulsar220 you cant ride at a sedate pace(atleast i wasnt able too) its too much fun riding (in general pulsar are fun to ride) it and made me smile out on the highway while i was able to keep up with volvos.(it too had vibes at such speed).

    so if you dont do 120 plus karizma is for you(its rock stable and relaxed at 100).
    cant comment on a gs150 as i havent ride it before.but in general there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT ,like if you are riding in hill you will be left wanting more power.

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    • Karizma is jack of all & aces of none..but that isn't a bad quality to have as it makes it a complete package.It may not have the top end like P220(though it isn't very far behind) but still you can tour @100kmph constantly with some more power left & i don't think there are many highways in our country where you can constantly ride your bike on that speed for long duration..

      Karizmas(including ZMR in it) are best sports tourer in India without any doubt..only bike which is an upgrade in sports touring category is CBR250R.so if you can't get a CBR250 then go for a Karizma without any other thought.
      Suzuki Gixxer - Current
      Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
      Apache RTR160 - Sold
      Honda Stunner - Sold
      LML Energy - Sold

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      • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
        Karizma is jack of all & aces of none..but that isn't a bad quality to have as it makes it a complete package.It may not have the top end like P220(though it isn't very far behind) but still you can tour @100kmph constantly with some more power left & i don't think there are many highways in our country where you can constantly ride your bike on that speed for long duration..

        Karizmas(including ZMR in it) are best sports tourer in India without any doubt..only bike which is an upgrade in sports touring category is CBR250R.so if you can't get a CBR250 then go for a Karizma without any other thought.

        +1 to that, ZMA though called old wine in old bottle, technically it is not way behind the GS150R. At that price point ZMA is an ideal product even today.
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        • When comparing the P220 vs ZMA, the P220 is the better option, eyes closed.
          But if you bring in the GS150R into the contest, then many more attributes of the bikes will also have to come into consideration. And after that all I can say is that in comparison to the GS150R, the P220 is Crap, ZMA is a dead horse. There I blurted it out in simple words. I didnt mean any offence to both ZMA and P220 owners but this is a fact. And everyone who've ever extensively ridden all 3 bikes will agree to my statements.
          Motorcycling Experience:
          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
          Adios Comrades!
          A.P. 2018

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          • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            When comparing the P220 vs ZMA, the P220 is the better option, eyes closed.
            But if you bring in the GS150R into the contest, then many more attributes of the bikes will also have to come into consideration. And after that all I can say is that in comparison to the GS150R, the P220 is Crap, ZMA is a dead horse. There I blurted it out in simple words. I didnt mean any offence to both ZMA and P220 owners but this is a fact. And everyone who've ever extensively ridden all 3 bikes will agree to my statements.
            you mean to say that GS150R is better bike than ZMA or P220..will u mind explaining how??
            Suzuki Gixxer - Current
            Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
            Apache RTR160 - Sold
            Honda Stunner - Sold
            LML Energy - Sold

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            • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
              you mean to say that GS150R is better bike than ZMA or P220..will u mind explaining how??
              Best roll on, yeah its a 150cc bike but the roll on from 60~100Kmph is better than the P220 & ZMA's. Yeah hard fact to believe but true.

              Better refinement, Yeah ZMA users, you heard me right.

              Hits a top whack of 125+Kmph not a matter for P220 and ZMA, but as I said before, many factors are to be considered.

              Has a mileage of 55~60Kmpl, though the post 2011 ZMA's are known to give better FE, considering the performance the GS offers, the GS does win.

              Gearing, in ZMA the gears are weird, 1~3 closely packed and 4&5 are too wide apart. In P220 power is balanced but slow down in final gear and even though the engine pulls, the delivery is'nt smooth compared to the GS, the GS pulls in every gear without breaking a sweat. Though its not fair cause I remember the SVC guy saying that the GS has some tech which enables it to pull cleanly even in low rpm's while riding in higher gears.

              Now the ruling point. OTR 71,585/-

              I know the GS may have its shortcommings, but also do consider that its from a completely different class from the P220&ZMA, yet still holds strong. And my personal opinion is that even though the P220 has AutoChoke, AutoCancelling Indicators etc etc, the GS150R still stands out as a true new age bike.

              The above are just my views, once again I appologize if I've offended anyone.
              Motorcycling Experience:
              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
              Adios Comrades!
              A.P. 2018

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              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                Best roll on, yeah its a 150cc bike but the roll on from 60~100Kmph is better than the P220 & ZMA's. Yeah hard fact to believe but true.

                Better refinement, Yeah ZMA users, you heard me right.

                Hits a top whack of 125+Kmph not a matter for P220 and ZMA, but as I said before, many factors are to be considered.

                Has a mileage of 55~60Kmpl, though the post 2011 ZMA's are known to give better FE, considering the performance the GS offers, the GS does win.
                I would love to see any proof of what you are saying..
                & Trust me my friend's GS isn't returning FE over 50kmph..he's getting max figures hovering around 50kmph whereas ZMA can return up to 40kmph with more powerful heart..

                GS150R is a good bike but its totally not in league with bikes like ZMA,ZMR,P220..only two 150CC bikes in that league are R15 & CBR150R..

                GS150R is for those who don't want power & want to save some money & Karizma is for those who want more power even if they have to shell out a bit more moolah..
                Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                Apache RTR160 - Sold
                Honda Stunner - Sold
                LML Energy - Sold

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                • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
                  I would love to see any proof of what you are saying..

                  Had my ass kicked by one a few days back. Though the GS guy was riding solo and me with pillion, still the bike deserves a thumbs up, I had to downshift and accelerate to pass him(Was'nt trying to race or anything, just wanted to get ahead oh him, cause he was riding rashly and tailing him, and I believed that tailing him wasnt a good option).

                  & Trust me my friend's GS isn't returning FE over 50kmph..he's getting max figures hovering around 50kmph whereas ZMA can return up to 40kmph with more powerful heart..

                  40Kmpl for ZMA is a story from the past. The newer models when ridden sanely promise to return 50+ Kmpl. I believe your friend's bike needs to be checked. Cause in my college there are only 2 GS150R's and the owners are more than satisfied the only negative they could point out was that it looks like a copy of the Pulsar(Though I dont think so.).

                  GS150R is a good bike but its totally not in league with bikes like ZMA,ZMR,P220..only two 150CC bikes in that league are R15 & CBR150R..

                  Its not in the P220/ZMA's league, yet churns this much performance, that its not too far away from them. And to top it all, its not even a performance oriented bike.


                  GS150R is for those who don't want power & want to save some money & Karizma is for those who want more power even if they have to shell out a bit more moolah..

                  Thats entirely upto you to decide, since its your personal opinion. But mine stays firm.
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                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • Ashwin, you want us to believe that GS150R reaches 100 kmph faster than Karizma because you lost to a GS150R on the road? And that too with a difference of pillion weight? Are you really serious?
                    HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                    Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                    Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                    • Ansum:- Go for ZMA. GS150R is good but ZMA betters by better margin. Best thing is to TR both the vehicles and weigh the options. Both are 18" rim if I'm not wrong, they are tall ergonomically positioned seat handle footrest combo.
                      Last edited by SriramEfunds; 07-30-2012, 09:25 PM.
                      RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                      2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                      • Friends TS is missing from March. And to whom are you all suggesting ?? Instead i see it's been turn into a war GS150r Vs Karizma!! Hold your pens for now!

                        Moderator! Please close this thread before we get a Kurushetra started here!!

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                        • MARRO... KAAT DALO..


                          YOU PPLS DO WHTEVER YOU WANT TO DO IN THIS THREAD...

                          but muzhe yeh bata best bike hai kon se in mein se

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                          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Ashwin, you want us to believe that GS150R reaches 100 kmph faster than Karizma because you lost to a GS150R on the road? And that too with a difference of pillion weight? Are you really serious?
                            Oh no sir, am not favoring the GS just cause of a single incident, I've been a GS fan even before my ZMA was bought. You'd have to agree with the performance that it offers, and for the price for which it is sold, its a definite winner. A normal 150~160cc bike runs out of steam around 80kmph but the GS still has some spunk left at 100kmph, similar to the ZMA which looses its steam around 110~115kmph(No comments on the P220, with my weight it pulls to 118Kmph effortlessly on speedo, but people do claim it has the most speedo errors.) So you see the GS inspite not being from a similar class isnt far away, hence with the added FE and low pricing I believe it stands out... Oh yeah, dont forget the refinement to die for. Just a personal opinion.
                            Motorcycling Experience:
                            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                            Adios Comrades!
                            A.P. 2018

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                            • Go for ZMA r...it's faster then GS in 0-60, 0-100 & in top speed ...also Hero after sales service is Miles Ahead then Suzuki...
                              Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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                              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Oh no sir, am not favoring the GS just cause of a single incident, I've been a GS fan even before my ZMA was bought. You'd have to agree with the performance that it offers, and for the price for which it is sold, its a definite winner. A normal 150~160cc bike runs out of steam around 80kmph but the GS still has some spunk left at 100kmph, similar to the ZMA which looses its steam around 110~115kmph(No comments on the P220, with my weight it pulls to 118Kmph effortlessly on speedo, but people do claim it has the most speedo errors.) So you see the GS inspite not being from a similar class isnt far away, hence with the added FE and low pricing I believe it stands out... Oh yeah, dont forget the refinement to die for. Just a personal opinion.
                                stop showing your fanboyism & misguide Topic starter..among 150cc category, A160 is one of the better performer barring R15 n CBR150, not GS150R..you took this bike to another level in your words which can misguide others..I repeat GS150R is good but not comparable with bikes like ZMA or P220 in any sense apart from refinement..

                                you want to believe us that GS is faster than ZMA because he overtook you..lol, I don't even want to comment on it..
                                Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                                Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                                Apache RTR160 - Sold
                                Honda Stunner - Sold
                                LML Energy - Sold

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