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  • #16
    Dukes are known to return 40+ easily on highways(fast). In super Eco-mode, this can go all the way up to 60+. So the mileage is dependent on how you ride it. R15 is no mileage champion in comparison, I know about a stock R15 which returns same Highway FE as a CBR1000RR, Another one I know of returns 52kmpl. So base your decision on these facts, and don't assume that Duke will most certainly return less FE than R15..

    Originally posted by blitzkreig809 View Post
    About P200NS, umm i don't know...I read the review(nothing against bajaj), but when i put P200NS, Duke and R15 in a line......you know, i just can't look beyond the neon orange beast and the 150cc god. Just can't
    Add RTR180ABS to this lineup and the Pulsar will suddenly start making a hell lot more sense
    Last edited by antz.bin; 04-24-2012, 09:51 PM.
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    • #17
      Interested in full fairings? Go for r15.... But its comman now a days..
      For exclusivity, go for duke 200... Awesome and best power and sound in its category....
      Budget dropped under 1 lak...? P200 ns is the best of now within the price...

      Enjoy. .
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      • #18
        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
        don't think too much,buy a rtr if your dad allots less budget or get a r15 in case you have more budget,don't forget to include the cost of riding gears in your budget.

        p.s.=if you are in college please don't take the burden of ownership of a fancy bike.save money,make your dad happy,there is always a ninja or duke or cbr on the cards when you start earning your money.
        yar, you won't believe me i've been thinking along the same lines and that's why i haven't been able to discuss the prospect of buying a bike with him. Yes i definitely need a bike. I love biking and regarding financials, i come from a middle class family, i know we can afford a 1.4 lacs bike but still i know that buying a bike from YOUR money is a unbeatable feeling. Am just confused like hell......DARN IT !!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by blitzkreig809 View Post
          yar, you won't believe me i've been thinking along the same lines and that's why i haven't been able to discuss the prospect of buying a bike with him. Yes i definitely need a bike. I love biking and regarding financials, i come from a middle class family, i know we can afford a 1.4 lacs bike but still i know that buying a bike from YOUR money is a unbeatable feeling. Am just confused like hell......DARN IT !!
          dad's hard-earned money=the reason i backed out from owning a duke,dad was happy to give it but for some reason i was not happy,i am enthusiast by heart but i don't need a fancy bike to prove it,he is already paying hefty for my mbbs study,so the next high end bike will be with my own money,
          the passion is just budding,give it some time to shape properly.
          Last edited by sayank10; 04-24-2012, 10:54 PM.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
            dad's hard-earned money=the reason i backed out from owning a duke,dad was happy to give it but for some reason i was not happy,i am enthusiast by heart but i don't need a fancy bike to prove it,he is already paying hefty for my mbbs study,so the next high end bike will be with my own money,
            the passion is just budding,give it some time to shape properly.
            I agree with you mate, it's just i'm sorta perfectionist and bikes which i find perfect(from a enthusiast's eye) are a little on the costlier side...... :/

            Off Topic -
            I liked apache 180 (my cousin has it), but TVS ruined it

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            • #21
              Originally posted by blitzkreig809 View Post
              I agree with you mate, it's just i'm sorta perfectionist and bikes which i find perfect(from a enthusiast's eye) are a little on the costlier side...... :/

              Off Topic -
              I liked apache 180 (my cousin has it), but TVS ruined it
              grab the old rtr then
              and the question remains why do i race?
              every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

              #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
              #overkill is underrated.
              #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
              #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

              (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by blitzkreig809 View Post
                Hey guys please help me I've a query.
                I'm about to get a bike for myself in 2-3 months.

                My daily riding distance will be between 28 and 35 kms. (40% highway and rest in city, Gurgaon)

                Confused between the R15 V2.0 or Duke 200 as they are priced similarly.

                Budget - Max. 1.4 lakhs but if my dad refused it will go down to 90K which means only one thing for me ( TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS)

                Help me out with all positives and negatives plus i'm specifically concerned about Duke's mileage because it's damn powerful.
                I would suggest taking a look at Pulsar 200NS if u arent in a hurry.. I think it would be a good option..

                If u are looking at Duke and R15 then CBR 150R deserves a look too...
                The build quality is good and also CBR 250 initial lot had build quality issues
                not the subsequent ones..

                Read the CBR 150 review below:
                Honda CBR 150R Review | IAMABIKER
                Life is an Open Road For me..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by catchdebanjan View Post
                  I would suggest taking a look at Pulsar 200NS if u arent in a hurry.. I think it would be a good option..

                  If u are looking at Duke and R15 then CBR 150R deserves a look too...
                  The build quality is good and also CBR 250 initial lot had build quality issues
                  not the subsequent ones..

                  Read the CBR 150 review below:
                  Honda CBR 150R Review | IAMABIKER
                  Hey can you please provide with a link to a detailed review of the CBR150R(the one you gave is rather short) as i'm unable to find one, and they are saying they get 40 kmpl, i find that highly unlikely.....

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                    grab the old rtr then
                    I will get my bike after 2-3 months thats for sure and untill then old RTR will cease to exist in the TVS showrooms

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by blitzkreig809 View Post
                      Hey can you please provide with a link to a detailed review of the CBR150R(the one you gave is rather short) as i'm unable to find one, and they are saying they get 40 kmpl, i find that highly unlikely.....
                      Dude this is the first pro review i have got till now.. neways being an owner
                      i can tell u if u check out the ownership thread for cbr 150r u will find one owner has said he was getting 50Kmpl+ during his run in period..

                      My first service is still due so, I personally wont be able to tell u the mileage..
                      But, showroom guys were saying u can get easily 45kmpl.. so, 40kmpl aint an
                      unlikely figure
                      Life is an Open Road For me..

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                      • #26
                        Hello bro,

                        What's your main criteria? Pls be clear with that.

                        Duke
                        Pros:
                        1. Very comfortable seat and seating posture.
                        2. Blisteringly fast.(From any rpm)
                        3. Purely a street bike(short gearing ratios)
                        4. Naked looks(depends)
                        5. Even with the short gearing ratios the bike can cruise at 100-120 easily.
                        6. Looks simple and has no unnecessary parts.
                        7. Ultra flickable!!
                        8. Sounds great!!
                        9. The multimeter is one of the best I've seen!! Plenty of info!!

                        Cons:
                        1. Overheating a common problem.
                        2. Fuel tank capacity 10.5lts
                        3. Plastic tank cover(good in a way)
                        4. Off roading is a strict no no.
                        5. Mileage 30-40kmpl normal city conditions(should get better on highways)
                        6. The worst pillion seat I've ever sat on!!!
                        7. Only side stand

                        R15V2.0
                        Pros:
                        1. Killer looks!! Grabs attention.
                        2. Nice colour options
                        3. Returns 40kmpl in city
                        4. Cruising at 100kmph is like peanuts.
                        5. Cornering is definitely fun

                        Cons:
                        1. Too sporty for urban roads. Start stop traffic on a R15 is something you don't want to experience.
                        2. Gearing ratios too tall. Needs frequent shifting especially with pillion and hill riding.
                        3. To get the juice out the bike needs to be revved almost to its redline which is merely possible in cities.(And not intended to)
                        4. Pillion seat!!(I laughed badly when I saw the V2.0 the first time, while my friends were puzzled why?? No grab!!! You'll need to hug the rider) Its like you'll fall of if the rider decides to downshift and redline suddenly!!

                        So decide first on what you are looking for. I suggest drop both of them. R15 not practical choice and duke though a good bike is facing problems with its initial batch. Like someone said go for the Karizma. I know it sounds stupid to suggest this bike but the bike has proven simple too much. Or wait for the NS200. CBR150R looks nice but overpriced(badly) and lacks lot of features.
                        Last edited by harishkumarko; 04-25-2012, 12:32 AM.
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                        • #27
                          ^^^ Not sure if it crossed your mind, a lot of -ves you mentioned for Duke 200 are applicable for R15 as well.. for example, strictly no off roading, plastic covered tank, only side stand etc.

                          @TS, if most of your riding happens in city Duke should be the one, if not you can settle for P200NS. R15 looks good, no doubt but if you frequently encounter start-stop city traffic, then it's no fun, you will regret it badly.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                            ^^^ Not sure if it crossed your mind, a lot of -ves you mentioned for Duke 200 are applicable for R15 as well.. for example, strictly no off roading, plastic covered tank, only side stand etc.

                            @TS, if most of your riding happens in city Duke should be the one, if not you can settle for P200NS. R15 looks good, no doubt but if you frequently encounter start-stop city traffic, then it's no fun, you will regret it badly.
                            Its got to be the duke anyday
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post
                              Hello bro,

                              What's your main criteria? Pls be clear with that.

                              Duke
                              Pros:
                              1. Very comfortable seat and seating posture.
                              2. Blisteringly fast.(From any rpm)
                              3. Purely a street bike(short gearing ratios)
                              4. Naked looks(depends)
                              5. Even with the short gearing ratios the bike can cruise at 100-120 easily.
                              6. Looks simple and has no unnecessary parts.
                              7. Ultra flickable!!
                              8. Sounds great!!
                              9. The multimeter is one of the best I've seen!! Plenty of info!!

                              Cons:
                              1. Overheating a common problem.
                              2. Fuel tank capacity 10.5lts
                              3. Plastic tank cover(good in a way)
                              4. Off roading is a strict no no.
                              5. Mileage 30-40kmpl normal city conditions(should get better on highways)
                              6. The worst pillion seat I've ever sat on!!!
                              7. Only side stand

                              R15V2.0
                              Pros:
                              1. Killer looks!! Grabs attention.
                              2. Nice colour options
                              3. Returns 40kmpl in city
                              4. Cruising at 100kmph is like peanuts.
                              5. Cornering is definitely fun

                              Cons:
                              1. Too sporty for urban roads. Start stop traffic on a R15 is something you don't want to experience.
                              2. Gearing ratios too tall. Needs frequent shifting especially with pillion and hill riding.
                              3. To get the juice out the bike needs to be revved almost to its redline which is merely possible in cities.(And not intended to)
                              4. Pillion seat!!(I laughed badly when I saw the V2.0 the first time, while my friends were puzzled why?? No grab!!! You'll need to hug the rider) Its like you'll fall of if the rider decides to downshift and redline suddenly!!

                              So decide first on what you are looking for. I suggest drop both of them. R15 not practical choice and duke though a good bike is facing problems with its initial batch. Like someone said go for the Karizma. I know it sounds stupid to suggest this bike but the bike has proven simple too much. Or wait for the NS200. CBR150R looks nice but overpriced(badly) and lacks lot of features.
                              Man, i will be riding in gurgaon so i guess start and stop traffic won't be avoidable. then R15 is out of the equation i guess?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by catchdebanjan View Post
                                Dude this is the first pro review i have got till now.. neways being an owner
                                i can tell u if u check out the ownership thread for cbr 150r u will find one owner has said he was getting 50Kmpl+ during his run in period..

                                My first service is still due so, I personally wont be able to tell u the mileage..
                                But, showroom guys were saying u can get easily 45kmpl.. so, 40kmpl aint an
                                unlikely figure
                                how can there be such a drastic difference between R15's and cbr150r's mileage? i mean they are similiar to a considerable extent. The difference of 20 kmpl is tooo much :O

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