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  • Good for Daily commute and long tour?

    Hi XBHPian

    My name is amit, I am planning to purchase bike with my hard earned money. I am following this forum from long time to choose my ride but after going through so many topic it increase my confusion many fold and I realize each person have distinct test so I created new topic

    Propose:

    1. Daily commute between office and home (20 km average/day).
    2. weekly/biweekly hit the highway for tour nearby Bangalore (> 400KM round trip mostly night).

    Requirements are as follows:

    1. Bike should have good performance (Should not be sluggish).
    2. refined engine (no/less vibes, no/less overheating and stress-free engine)
    3. Mileage: should not be less than 45km/L
    4. Bike should be really comfortable to ride (clutch, suspension).
    5. Braking and tyres grip should be good enough.
    6. Overall quality should be good (paint, fairing quality).
    7. Bike should have less cost of ownership for at least 5 year period.
    8. Initial Budget 75K-80K (if bike is really fits on all my requirement then can stretch a bit)

    I am open to any bike but please stay away from fanboyism. May be its not possible to get the entire requirement in a single bike then please mention what is missing , bike you are suggesting. It is always welcome if you want to add more pros and cons of ride you are suggesting. It will really help me to choose my ride.

    Thanks you for your patience to read my lengthy post.

  • #2
    Query approved.

    A similar query also exists.

    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Unicorn should be the best fit as per your requirement plus its always comfy no matter u ride in city or highways.

      Extend your budget a bit & Karizma is next best option with enough horses on your wrist to saddle with.
      You must be the change you wish to see in the world

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      • #4
        Thanks for your suggestion.

        Originally posted by thunderbird_m6 View Post
        Unicorn should be the best fit as per your requirement plus its always comfy no matter u ride in city or highways.

        Extend your budget a bit & Karizma is next best option with enough horses on your wrist to saddle with.
        Thanks for your suggestion.

        Regarding Unicorn it's proven but analog display is big disappointment. other than that it also lack of engine kill switch.

        Here i have question how much importance does engine kill switch have it day to day city commuting and also in long tour? why all unicorn sibling does not have engine kill switch? anyway the place is empty they could have easily accommodate a kill switch !!!

        Karizma is also a very good bike but i want keep myself less than 200CC. because it cost more also burn more fuel/km. if don't get any bike below 200CC i might consider Karizma

        Regards,
        Amit Ghosh
        Last edited by amit_bhb; 08-08-2012, 06:52 PM. Reason: Minor spelling mistake.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
          Propose:
          1. Daily commute between office and home (20 km average/day).
          Means something with good average!! and your budget is upto 80k.
          Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
          2. weekly/biweekly hit the highway for tour nearby Bangalore (> 400KM round trip mostly night).
          Can be done on any bike depends on rider!!
          Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
          Requirements are as follows:
          1. Bike should have good performance (Should not be sluggish).
          2. refined engine (no/less vibes, no/less overheating and stress-free engine)
          3. Mileage: should not be less than 45km/L
          4. Bike should be really comfortable to ride (clutch, suspension).
          5. Braking and tyres grip should be good enough.
          6. Overall quality should be good (paint, fairing quality).
          7. Bike should have less cost of ownership for at least 5 year period.
          8. Initial Budget 75K-80K (if bike is really fits on all my requirement then can stretch a bit)
          When you are here that means you might have some bikes in your mind?? So what's your choice?? which bike you are thinking of?? We will help you to choose from those!!
          Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
          Regarding Unicorn it's proven but analog display is big disappointment. other than that it also lack of engine kill switch........kill switch !!!
          I am sure you have some bike in your mind!!

          BTW your criteria points to GS150r!! Less ownership cost is only with 100/110 cc bikes only!

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          • #6
            You can choose between these three bikes:

            Honda Unicorn
            Suzuki GS 150R
            Yamaha SZ-R

            All these three bikes will fit your requirement and they have excellent build quality and will definitely serve you for 5 years with less trouble
            Yamaha RX100 (1993)
            Yamaha RX135 (2000)
            Bajaj Pulsar 150 (2004)
            Yamaha FZ-25 (2017)
            TVS N-Torq (2018)

            "Owners Pride Neighbors Envy"

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            • #7
              @somen1984

              Yes I do have few bikes in my mind and its true one among them is GS150R but i am not pointing to any bike. i am still open.

              I did TR of GS150R and Unicorn and my friends have pulsar 150, hunk and RTR 160 (older). Now every bike is having some pros and cons and every single bike is different. Here are the pros and cons I have found.

              GS150R
              Pros: Good comfort, mileage, Digital console (best One), 6th gear, refined engine
              Cons: heavy, bit sluggish, poor light, not proven, pillion seat height, heard breaking is also not good

              Unicorn
              Pros: Good comfort, mileage, mono suspense, proven refined engine
              Cons: heavy, bit sluggish, poor light, no kill switch, analog console.

              Hunk
              Pros: Good comfort, mileage, proven refined engine
              Cons: heavy, poor light, no kill switch, pillion seat height, short gearing

              Pulsar 150
              Pros: DC, console goodies (Auto cancel, side stand indicator), good light
              Cons: less refined engine, TCO is more (Friends feedback), not comfortable (Clutch, stiff suspense)

              Apache RTR 160
              Pros: performance, good light
              Cons: less refined engine, TCO is more, not comfortable (Clutch, stiff suspense)

              Now look wise according to my rating:
              1. Hunk
              2. Apache (after 2012 release came down to 2)
              3. Pulsar
              4. Unicorn
              5. GS150R

              These are my observation and some feedback from who own these bikes. Not meant to offend any one
              Last edited by amit_bhb; 08-09-2012, 12:40 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                @somen1984
                Now look wise according to my rating:
                1. Hunk
                2. Apache (after 2012 release came down to 2)
                3. Pulsar
                4. Unicorn
                5. GS150R

                These are my observation and some feedback from who own these bikes. Not meant to offend any one
                When you talk most the bkes were heavy to you so i guess you might be in 5.0-5.5" height!! Mostly any bike in standstill will be heavy but in motion it should not be a problem.
                1. GS150r is proven for almost a year i guess or more.
                2. Hunk has same engine of unicorn so it will be as reliable as Unicorn.
                3. Pulsar to common
                4. Apache 160 (new) is also nice, gives 45+kmpl in city with good high average! Good Tour city torque and high speed.

                If average is concerned with comfort then go with GS150r

                Else Hunk/CBZ and Dazzler are best because these three bikes have good 150cc with reliable SVC, good re-sale, good average, Dual Disc and average maintenance!! as it's Hero product, though Dazzler would be little more on pocket to others!!

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                • #9
                  If you increase your budget a bit and opt for a 40km/l bike. Fazer would be my addition to the list.

                  Pros. - Comfort, Road grip, Handling, Refined engine, Monocross, Engine Kill Switch

                  Cons. - Mileage - Will give you 40 km/l no matter how you ride, Costly for the goodies it comes with, Only 150 cc!! (You have JOEL power right beside you though)

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                  • #10
                    well if you will be riding mostly on nights than i would suggest you to go for rtr ABS for the safety..
                    But then i am not sure about the mileage (rtr tribe can help you on that ) and the cost factor will also be an issue..
                    I respect the threat.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      When you talk most the bkes were heavy to you so i guess you might be in 5.0-5.5" height!! Mostly any bike in standstill will be heavy but in motion it should not be a problem.
                      I am 6.2" i told heavy as kerb weight is more for this 3 bike (GS150R/Hunk/Unicorn). but in motion all are same.

                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      1. GS150r is proven for almost a year i guess or more.
                      I gone through ownership thread and there lots of complain about light, break/tyre (I should stay stopping power). Some people have gone for costly modification. I love my bike very much, I will clean her, take her for servicing regularly, but research on it which stock part can be replace with which part of other bike/car is not my cup of tea. i really don't have time to research on which engine oil is better. i will use only what SVC guys will say

                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      2. Hunk has same engine of unicorn so it will be as reliable as Unicorn.
                      Hunk is short geared, quick acceleration and vibrates at higher RPM. No Engine Kill Switch

                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      4. Apache 160 (new) is also nice, gives 45+kmpl in city with good high average! Good Tour city torque and high speed.
                      Now this is the bike i can live with except vibration at 4K, and also worried about how it ll be for long tour? stiff suspense and clutch, sporty seating posture. I have not seen new one in flesh. I will ride it may be by this week.

                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      If average is concerned with comfort then go with GS150r
                      Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                      Else Hunk/CBZ and Dazzler are best because these three bikes have good 150cc with reliable SVC, good re-sale, good average, Dual Disc and average maintenance!! as it's Hero product, though Dazzler would be little more on pocket to others!!
                      I am better with Unicorn with digital console of dazzler and engine kill switch. Dazzler is Unicorn with some fake muscles which gone horribly wrong for HONDA.

                      Hey anyone can explain
                      how much importance does engine kill switch have it day to day city commuting and also in long tour? why all unicorn sibling does not have engine kill switch? anyway the place is empty they could have easily accommodate a kill switch
                      Last edited by amit_bhb; 08-09-2012, 12:19 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                        GS150R
                        Add one more...the location of SVC. Is there anything closer to your house? Atleast here in South only a few are blessed. And...GS150R should've got a good upgrade by now

                        Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                        Unicorn
                        Dazzler considering the fact you're willing to extend the budget
                        Add another point - proven vehicle and...didn't find it sluggish , but that was Unicorn CB not Dazzler

                        Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                        Hunk
                        Err...outdated isn't it? But, IMO, you can opt Uni for this one

                        Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                        Pulsar 150
                        Add pure VFM along with your existing findings

                        Originally posted by amit_bhb View Post
                        Apache RTR 160
                        Unless your heart throbes for RTR, stay out of it; most owners complain rattling issues & personally, I feel RTR SHOULD've got 2 upgrades by now!!!

                        What about P200NS, though your FE might take a hit? Not interested?

                        PS - Your post is good, not lengthy & that's how it has to be
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          4. Apache 160 (new) is also nice, gives 45+kmpl in city with good high average! Good Tour city torque and high speed.

                          My 180 Apache gives me 45+ I hope 160 Will give at least +5 ...
                          Hey anyone can explain
                          how much importance does engine kill switch have it day to day city commuting and also in long tour? why all unicorn sibling does not have engine kill switch? anyway the place is empty they could have easily accommodate a kill switch
                          For me its Important for Daily Ride, Traffic Signal & Taking Halt to Check Mobile ...I Use Engine Kill alot time you don't need to do anything but just a Thumb Press to Stop your Engine for Halt
                          Last edited by shahbaz63; 08-09-2012, 01:06 PM.
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                          • #14
                            TD Suzuki GS150R and decide yourself.
                            Mileage : 50+
                            Maintenance : Less
                            Comfort for Long Rides : Yes
                            Digital Meter with Gear Indicator : Yes
                            6th Gear is boon for Overdrive....
                            Engine Kill Switch..

                            If you dont like GS then I think you should opt for unicorn and try to externally fir Engine kill switch.

                            Lighting issue - Same in Unicorn and GS until unless you convert it to Full DC you should live with that.
                            Engine oil - I cant say anything except the company recommended grade :-)
                            Last edited by pavan_cin; 08-09-2012, 01:33 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                              For me its Important for Daily Ride, Traffic Signal & Taking Halt to Check Mobile ...I Use Engine Kill alot time you don't need to do anything but just a Thumb Press to Stop your Engine for Halt
                              Exactly. what i feel about engine kill switch.

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