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Looking at those requirements, how did SZR make the shortlist? Not mocking, just curious.

The Karizma has lots of low end torque and good highway abilities.That she returns around 35kmpl is quite a common word.If you are not satisfied with these figures, the FZ would be a great buy too.But she strains a bit towards the top end of revband.
As of the SZR, it is primarily a city riding oriented bike.I felt the bottom end even stronger than the FZ, making her a tool for traffic light GPs in the Honda Shine league.But the top is anemic.
Furthermore,I would like to suggest you to take a test ride of all the three bikes..

As mod said how come Y-SZR came into your mind

Y-fz can be considerable, but at the speed of 90-100 for crusing around 200-250 kms, again have a doubt

Here comes karizma - R : your machine, will complete your requirements bro,
Spare parts, handling, cruising, top speed, mileage, braking

A well proven bike for Indian terrain, Its a perfect machine as you want, take a test ride and then decide...

Best of luck...

although outdated but karizma r should be your buy,i would like to add pulsar 180 to this list.

Based on your criteria I would suggest Karizma R followed by FZ/Fazer. Surely not an SZ-R.

I don't know what you might have read about it.

The SZ is an nimble machine, although its the same 153cc engine, this bike only gives you about 12bhp. Good enough for city ride, and must say, amazing pickup, better than FZ too. The 0-60kmph is awesome! Also you dont need to get down from higher gear, awesome torque helps you pull through 30-80 even on 5th gear! But its total sad story after 80kmph, the bike starts to slow down and get stagnant at about 105kmph there after engine strains itself. Handling is good and yes, I have covered about 150-200km in a stretch without issues, bike behaves awesome, not to forget the exhaust note when you are riding above 75kmph.

This one is only meant for city/ring roads. It gives you about 40-45kmpl mileage. People who ride sanely get even more. Front disc brake has that bite, but the tyres by TVS are pathetic and wont give you the required confidence to do such a sudden halt from 90 to 0 under any case. Spares arent any issue, they are very durable. Consider other options unless you ride only city traffic.

Your requirements will be well served by Karizma-R. Forget SZ-R, i've my doubts even if FZ can cruise at 90-100 kmph for 200 kms!! even if it does it will return mileage like 25-30kmpl. For Karizma, 90-100kmph would be not much, I guess it will be in sweet spot at those speeds.

Believe me that was the first question arrived in my mind too :O

From the three eyes closed Karizma, but why NS200 is not in your list ?? When you can pay 89 then why not few more Ks for NS200??
Think again on NS200!!
Karizma or FZ
You won't get Yamaha's spare on road side mech, where as you will get for Hero and Bajaj both at most of the shops!!
Handling wise FZ is more nice on those terms then Karizma, FZ is very easy handly and has great grips too!! Karizma is big and mainly for highways and tour!! FZ is good for city as well as highway, the only constraints are it's high speed, FZ will block you at 115kmph and post 100kmph it gets slow, but not that slow!! Other hand Karizma with 223cc engine cruises at 110kmph all long on the highway, as you said speed in not imp but handling is important, Then FZ scores here!!
Any time FZ for handling, but for speed Karizma, NS200 for both!!
Crusing abilities, FZ is also good, before 1yr most of the Duke and R15 owners where the previosu owner of FZ, It has great comfort and can ride at 100kmph!! top end is near to 115-120kmph. brakes are nice and lovely to ride in city as well as highway, But Karizma reaches high end prety quick then FZ, KArizma can perform more well on highways with pillion, where as FZ will stay behind on this, just due to cc difference!!

P.S: a serious advice, please do consider NS200, it's way different from previous pulsars, it's on same KTM platform, if people can trust Duke which is manufactured by Bajaj then why not NS200.

Somethign about NS200.
NS200:
some around 94k OTR Delhi, correct if it's wrong!!
Engine 200cc with 20+bhp
Handling and braking: way ahead as compared to other bikes, apart from (Duke and R15 INMO).
Comfort: Riding in city is compfortable and on highways too has good crusing abiity!!
Speed: It has an top end of 140+kmph. But it's butter smooth till 120kmph, post that there is unstability due to naked nature!!

Go throug this link :


You can get the Bajaj spares in almost all shops, spare and maintenance would be anytime less as compare(P220) to other bikes.
It's VFM anytime!! any has all features that you are looking for in a bike, with 5 yrs rest and happy journey!!!

karizma-R .... undoubtedly...it is the best among others.

although each has pros and cos.

Thanks for approving thread !!

@ All: thanks all for your suggestions. and yes, answer to query that most of you asked...how did SZR make way to my list. First and foremost is, today i came to know how one wrong word can change whole context of discussion. Please read my requirement for cruising abilities as :

Cruising abilites: Though I will use my bike mostly on weekend for household works but occasionally in some months for drive of about 200 KMs.My bike should be able to cruise about 90 -100 Kmph without engine strain for 200-250 KM.

instead of :

Cruising abilites: Though I will use my bike mostly on weekend for household works but occasionally in some months for drive of about 200 KMs.My bike should be able to cruise above 90 -100 Kmph without engine strain for 200-250 KM.

I am sorry for this mistake..Now..i think SZR makes way to my list( atleast i think !! ) . I am not big fan of top speed and cruising speed of 90-100 Kmph is good enough for me.

Well my concern for Karizma is...
1.In some posts I have read that spare parts availability is issue for Karizma.
2. Some have reported mileage of 25-30 for it.
3. Honda is no more with Hero, not too sure about future after sales support.

what i like in karizma..
1. bigger engine when compared to FZ by spending 10K extra.

My biggest concern for karizma R are spare parts availability as i read in some posts and its mileage.

To put it another way, I would like to know what karizma offers that yamaha FZ does not ( apart from Top speed , Looks are subjective )

Point taken, thanks !

Also I have read same mileage figures in city conditions for new FZ 2012 in reviews. does it mean SZR and FZ have same mileage +/- 5 KMPL ?

My additions in blue...

do have a small kid ?? and if you are thinking on family angles then Karizma and FZ is best, if you don't have a kid then NS is best!!
SVC are more or less same for all brands, unavailabilty of spares parts are for some SVCs or by time being.
KArizma is one of the bikes which overided the P180 sales.. Karizma is a legend!! And you can see at least 2 Karizma on very lots of 15 bikes, so you can understand the sales and popularity of this bike. People where crazy for this KArizma before P220.

Even P220 is good for Family purpose!!
Spares parts own't be a problem. And if Honda has divorced Hero, then it doesn't means that Hero will keep quite or stop the production, AFAIK hero and Honda has an agreement to use the engines of existing models like CBZ/HUNK/Karizma till more 10-15 yrs or untill they stop the model.
Yep absolutely!! I have ridden FZ from Mumbai to Shirdi at 100-110kmph entire trip No problem in that. But yes if you are double then to get to 100 would be a problem to any 150cc apart from CBR150 or R15 as they are not commuter class.

I am riding R15 from more than 2 yrs but i never rode my R15 at constant 120kmph !!! where as my bike goes upto 135kmph also.... just a burst in middle sometime, normally i ride on 90-100kmph only on highways...becuase some bikes are tends to get to high speed, as designed.

Why don't you TD NS200 with your family and check!!

Now some change in views!
When you are thinking on Karizma, then Why not a P220, which has projector head lights, dual disc, oil cooled engine, wide tyres than KArizma and more less spare part maintenance then karizma....