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  • #31
    Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
    Donno how come so low for SZr
    But my friend rides daily for 15kms of highway and gets 50-55kmpl on 60-90kmph, that's a nice figure!! He do touches some time to 100-105kmph too. He has ridden it to 105-110kmph till now!!
    Can it go further than this ??
    Only 17.65% SZ Owners (about 1 in 6) on xBHP get an FE of 50kmpl or more.



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    • #32
      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      Only 17.65% SZ Owners (about 1 in 6) on xBHP get an FE of 50kmpl or more.



      Source: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...sz-x-sz-r.html
      Good to see some at least 5 people are there from the lot who get more than 55kmpl, but friend get 50-55kmpl only!! He needs to improve his riding to get more ...lol..

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      • #33
        @moonlight,

        if you ride mostly in city ,go for fz ,it offers great handling and very fun to ride in city ,brakes are pretty good,it even has decent power for occasional highway trips...

        if you ride generally on highway ,karizma r would be a good bet, very comfortable and stress free riding for long tours(more like a cruiser with fairing)...in the city bike feels a bit big but certainly manageable .....


        with fz you get FE about 40 kmpl(combined)...szr has same engine as fz but is detuned so expect 45kmpl....with karizma you can expect 30-35kmpl..

        spare parts availability of karizma is bad moreover cost of parts is high.

        why not zmr? just a suggestion...if offers everything that karizma offers with better FE...

        imo,numbers hardly matter and the decision is ultimately yours,so

        test drive all the bikes you shortlisted and buy one which suits you/you find comfortable....

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        • #34
          Karizma is always better than FZ with its front fairing, high torque value and 70cc more than 153cc FZ but as I always tell you, if you can cope with 30-35 km/l mileage then there is a great proven bike Karizma for you. But if you want decent 40-45 km/l mileage in city conditions and very good reliable vehicle then it's FZ. The gear shifts of FZ are butter smooth and also the engine refinement. Just had a tour and rode Pulsar 200 and Duke 200 randomly and found that only Duke's gear shifting is as smooth as FZ. Still couldn't push to neutral from 2 or 1 in any bikes except FZ with ease. This was agreed by all people who rode the bikes. Engine refinement of FZ is incredible. I don't want to compare Duke 200 with FZ because the prize of the latter is nearly 40% greater than FZ but I'll tell I liked the refinement of FZ after Duke 200. Today I understood that why I'm obliged to pay a premium for FZ comparing to other 150cc bikes but I'll tell you it's worth.

          If you are ok with mileage then go for Karizma else go for FZ but no SZR please. You will surely regret.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
            Only 17.65% SZ Owners (about 1 in 6) on xBHP get an FE of 50kmpl or more.



            Source: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...sz-x-sz-r.html
            Thanks, so I think mileage difference between SZR and FZ is not more than 5 KMPL. This certainly tilts my decision towards FZ.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MoonLight View Post
              Thanks, so I think mileage difference between SZR and FZ is not more than 5 KMPL. This certainly tilts my decision towards FZ.
              good analysis!!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by vickul View Post
                @moonlight,

                if you ride mostly in city ,go for fz ,it offers great handling and very fun to ride in city ,brakes are pretty good,it even has decent power for occasional highway trips...

                if you ride generally on highway ,karizma r would be a good bet, very comfortable and stress free riding for long tours(more like a cruiser with fairing)...in the city bike feels a bit big but certainly manageable .....


                with fz you get FE about 40 kmpl(combined)...szr has same engine as fz but is detuned so expect 45kmpl....with karizma you can expect 30-35kmpl..

                spare parts availability of karizma is bad moreover cost of parts is high.

                why not zmr? just a suggestion...if offers everything that karizma offers with better FE...

                imo,numbers hardly matter and the decision is ultimately yours,so

                test drive all the bikes you shortlisted and buy one which suits you/you find comfortable....
                My ride will mostly be say 90% in city and some occasional trip maybe in 3-4 months to distance of ~250 KMs. Mileage of 30-35 is not acceptable for me, with rising fuel prices. It should be above 35 and more towards 40. So i think FZ is better suited on these requirements.

                Any idea about spare parts availability and cost of same for FZ ? when I went to Yamaha showroom, they claimed spare parts are reasonably priced.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                  good analysis!!
                  Now this is some strange situation, somen your friend might be getting 50 + mileage from SZR. But I got figures of 45+ from these sources:

                  1.As per yamaha showroom peoples.
                  2. some XBHP members.
                  3. Survey as pointed by antz.bin above.

                  If SZR is really having 50 + mileage and FZ having 40+, then certainly SZR is much better option with low upfront cost and good mileage. Styling of SZR is above par of its segment.

                  But if this changes to mileage of 45+ for SZR and 40+ for FZ, it changes equation. I maybe wrong, I am not expert thats why I am relying on feedbacks of senior members like you and others for correct decision.

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                  • #39
                    Few more things to be noted..

                    If sz-x comes with disc breaking, digital meters, tubeless Tyre (Radial), pass switch and rpm meter?

                    Being in 150cc category can we compare power with p150, FZ or Apache 160 ? Surely no...

                    So If you can afford FZ then forget about SZ-x because in other word SZ-X is degraded version of FZ in which you have to pay lesser then10k for SZ-x (Same power & tech Engine) compare to FZ where as If you are ready to pay more then please Forget SZ-X/R any day....

                    If you require more power like FZ's then you can increase the power till 14 BHP with FZ na ? .SZ-X Strongly a Commuting bike only.

                    If you are going for SZ-X then I would strongly suggest to go for p135/ Discover 150, might be costly but will give you everything more then you need in Sz-X

                    the SZ-X despite its poor rubber Tyre and braking, it handles very well, its same as Unicron & Dazzler, its quite similar department, think wisely what you want from your bike and decide wisely ?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MoonLight View Post
                      Now this is some strange situation, somen your friend might be getting 50 + mileage from SZR. But I got figures of 45+ from these sources:

                      1.As per yamaha showroom peoples.
                      2. some XBHP members.
                      3. Survey as pointed by antz.bin above.

                      If SZR is really having 50 + mileage and FZ having 40+, then certainly SZR is much better option with low upfront cost and good mileage. Styling of SZR is above par of its segment.

                      But if this changes to mileage of 45+ for SZR and 40+ for FZ, it changes equation. I maybe wrong, I am not expert thats why I am relying on feedbacks of senior members like you and others for correct decision.
                      Absolutely true!!
                      Your confusion is a valid point!!
                      See friend, this is all about your requirements:
                      1. If you are ok with 40-45kmpl then FZ, but if you think +5-10kmpl is good then SZr, in FZ you don't have an option getting more than 50kmpl, in SZr you have.
                      2. Handling, SZr won't be as good as FZ in handling, but it's like normal other 150cc bike. It has less broader tyres which will give him less grip then FZ or braking!! But that doesn't mean it's bad!!
                      3. Speed Fator, as all said, FZ lacks post 100kmph punch then now you have to decide will you go with FZ or SZR?? in speed fator i guess both will be approx same.
                      4. Price the main factor: it's approx 20k less then FZ.

                      maintenance would be approx same.
                      but yes fun to ride in city is only worth when it's handling and brakes are that good...in which FZ scores!!

                      SZr is for people you want a different option than CBZ/hunk/P150/GS150r that in range of 60-70k

                      You are the better judge here Bro!! Sit calm and see which all priorities are at your side ??

                      Where as if speed or mileage or power is concern then People are pointing P135 more on over FZ, which would be true some place!!

                      Think on P135 also then!!
                      Last edited by Guest; 08-30-2012, 11:07 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                        Good to see some at least 5 people are there from the lot who get more than 55kmpl, but friend get 50-55kmpl only!! He needs to improve his riding to get more ...lol..
                        Don't trust these mileage surveys, especially when you cannot see the people who polled,i doubt there is 102 SZ-R/X owners in this forum, my friend is having an SZ-R for about and year and it is giving him 55+ mileage, he gets more mileage than my slingee at post 80kph runs.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MoonLight View Post
                          My ride will mostly be say 90% in city and some occasional trip maybe in 3-4 months to distance of ~250 KMs. Mileage of 30-35 is not acceptable for me, with rising fuel prices. It should be above 35 and more towards 40. So i think FZ is better suited on these requirements.

                          Any idea about spare parts availability and cost of same for FZ ? when I went to Yamaha showroom, they claimed spare parts are reasonably priced.
                          yes ,rising fuel prices are a bummer to us bikers and decent FE is a must...

                          as 90% ride is in city ,i guarantee you will be satisfied with fz....

                          spare parts of fz/fazer are easily available in our area(bbsr and cost of spares is more than brands like bajaj but is decently priced and quite affordable.....

                          dont worry too much dude, just listen to your heart and buy what your heart says...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                            Absolutely true!!
                            Your confusion is a valid point!!
                            See friend, this is all about your requirements:
                            1. If you are ok with 40-45kmpl then FZ, but if you think +5-10kmpl is good then SZr, in FZ you don't have an option getting more than 50kmpl, in SZr you have.
                            2. Handling, SZr won't be as good as FZ in handling, but it's like normal other 150cc bike. It has less broader tyres which will give him less grip then FZ or braking!! But that doesn't mean it's bad!!
                            3. Speed Fator, as all said, FZ lacks post 100kmph punch then now you have to decide will you go with FZ or SZR?? in speed fator i guess both will be approx same.
                            4. Price the main factor: it's approx 20k less then FZ.

                            maintenance would be approx same.
                            but yes fun to ride in city is only worth when it's handling and brakes are that good...in which FZ scores!!

                            SZr is for people you want a different option than CBZ/hunk/P150/GS150r that in range of 60-70k

                            You are the better judge here Bro!! Sit calm and see which all priorities are at your side ??

                            Where as if speed or mileage or power is concern then People are pointing P135 more on over FZ, which would be true some place!!

                            Think on P135 also then!!

                            SZR is no doubt a very good bike with fresh looks and yamaha engine available at very good price. just to compare prices ,

                            Pulsar 150 - 76 K
                            Yamaha SZR - 65 K ( OTR Delhi ).

                            It is good 11K cheaper than pulsar 150 !!!! I think it is great VFM at this price point. You have added new angle to story that SZR has upper room available to get more mileage of 50+. and who does not want more ?

                            I am planning for TD of SZR and FZ, will post update shortly!

                            and well, P135 I am not fan of its looks. This is very subjective, depends upon person to person.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rashid View Post
                              Don't trust these mileage surveys, especially when you cannot see the people who polled,i doubt there is 102 SZ-R/X owners in this forum, my friend is having an SZ-R for about and year and it is giving him 55+ mileage, he gets more mileage than my slingee at post 80kph runs.
                              Hmmmm.....

                              Originally posted by vickul View Post
                              yes ,rising fuel prices are a bummer to us bikers and decent FE is a must...

                              as 90% ride is in city ,i guarantee you will be satisfied with fz....

                              spare parts of fz/fazer are easily available in our area(bbsr and cost of spares is more than brands like bajaj but is decently priced and quite affordable.....

                              dont worry too much dude, just listen to your heart and buy what your heart says...
                              Very right, there are endless other places to spend money on ( not to forget ever increasing taxes ) rather than spending good amount of fuel.

                              and, I am not worrying but when we are ready to spend amount only some thousands less that 1 Lac.... it demands logical and informative decision.

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