Choose between P220 and ZMR.Enjoy.

Go for ZMA R ... The King of Touring...next if budget is not a problem go for Cbr250R

Either you don't know the importance of an FI system or you highly underestimating it..
no doubt ZMA-R is a good tourer but ZMR took it a step ahead..ZMR has got PGM-FI instead of a carb which is helpful for a tourer who loves hills & places of high altitudes..Its a closed loop FI system having a Lambda(or known as oxygen sensor)sensor in it which itself adjust the AFR according to surroundings so you need not to worry about your bike's AFR without tuning the carb in other bikes..moreover even if you are not going to hills,a tourer bike must return good FE in todays time when the petrol prices are as high as sky,ZMR has advantage of as good as 10kmpl over its sibling having car..
moreover ZMR has got Rear disc setup for better safety..two trip meter setting..Tubeless tyres..better headlight than ZMA-R..seating position is different than ZMA-R along with Split handle bars,it became even more comfy..full fairing adds more stability when you are at high speeds but still if you are not comfortable with it then you can remove it,is it that hard to understand for anyone who urges being uncomfortable cuz of "extra added weight"..

@topic - go for CBR250R>ZMR>ZMA-R>P220>CBR150R

When you put it that way then things get clearer.. But if the fi stops functioning.. Then? Thats the only disadvantage. But if you see the no of advantages then i guess you can live with one con.. And yes. Earlier too i mentioned in a thread.. Extra body helps it in maintaining stability at higher speeds than the half faired ones and the GRS shock which are new are far far better than the nitrox ones.. If cbr250 is not affordable, then as a tourer choice would be zma or zmr.. zmr little above cause i realised importance of fi wen diablo pointed out.. And then other bikes

its a same FI system in ZMR which even CBR250R shares..i.e PGM-FI,its as reliable as other techs of Honda..If one customer keeps himself away from ZMR because of this reason then he should not also consider CBR250R(which is a better option) because of the same reason..so in the end I'll say that its not a point to worry about at all..sooner or later,in future you'll get almost every bike having FI instead of a carb..
in comfort ZMR is above ZMA-R because of slight change in sitting position & also for pillion riders as it has got better rear suspensions..Still anyone think ZMA-R is a better tourer??..I would love to know why..

I also found myself in the same situation some 6 months back as my cast ironbull was getting temparamental. While eveluating the option, pillion comfort was one of the deciding factor

I evaluated the following option-- a new UCE Bull, CBR 250, Karizma ZMA, RTR 180 and the all muscle P220

1) UCE Bull: Ruled out because I already have one and that too a cast iron. But would definitely vouch that the new UCE are very reliable unlike the CI ones. Bulls have the best pillion seats and straight line stabilty is just amazing,
2) CBR 250: Wifey really liked it and so did I. Only problem was the after sales exp which is not that great with Honda.
3) Karizma ZMA: A proven tourer and has a can go attitude. But presently looks dated and was ruled out. (Just a personal opinion)
4) RTR 180: RTR is a potent touring machine specially with the ABS. But looks compact and we both are almost 6-footer.
5) P220: This is the machine I ultimately bought. It is proven, has loads of low end torque and those headlights are a bliss on the highways specially at night when Volvo come honking at full blast to you.

But after 6 months, here is what I am doing...for short trips and for city use I get on the P220. But on long haul trips with my better half I still use the Bull because of the pillion comfort and the high speed stability. So pls do consider a UCE Bull....it is better than the earlier Cast Iron block, is reliable and has a comfortable pillion seat. Otherwise the preference should be CBR>P220>Karizma>RTR.
Just my two cents

Touring and all day 100kmph+ this two are very different. I don't think that a couple would ride 100kmph+ whole day in touring!!

But as your budget is 1.2L.
ZMR fits your every requirement but still it's a question on Hero's stand in future of the existing techs, Even ZMR works on Honda tech, which is now a good question.

Donnp why but i would prefer Avenger when the accout is touring!!

Avenger has best comfort while riding or touring every even better then RE's in terms of leg relaxation.
Avenger has a power 220cc engine inherited from P220.
Easily does 100+kmph, but people must understand than avenger's aerodynamic is not at all for higher speeds, though it does 110kmph, even people take it beyond that too, one non sense friend of mine goes beyond that when he races with me against R15, 120kmph !! it's scaring!!
It has good pick up and for occasional rides it's the best!!

Now the question is how sensible you would be when you think on Bajaj and Hero??
Bajaj's maintenance is lower than Hero, both has extended SVC.

But INMO a tourer bike in <1L is more sensible.

ZMR is good, with good techs and dual Disc, liquid cool, etc..But i feel it is for city + touring.
But when you are looking for occasional bike for touring only!! then it should be Avenger!! with low maintenance.

Why to pay extra 40k when you won't be using it for daily ride???

RE are stable on high speed ?? this Q is tinkling my mind now! I am a fan of RE but personal experience is RE sucks beyond 100kmph!! Hearts startbeating!!

Just taking RE to 100+kmph is not the end, even braking is somewhere a heart dropping points.

If a person chooses a RE then he should know or clear his thoughts of RE is only for 80-110kmph!!

RE is never easy to control on high speed, where as other bikes are eaily handled on high speed.

If it's a RE then everyone should expect it with real facts....

Bro..BTW you are referring to what speed for RE stability on high speed??

only products which will get affected & might get discontinued are Impulse,Ignitor & Maestro..ZMR/ZMA/CBZ/Hunk bla bla bla won't get affected..HMC might change the name like Xtreme from CBZ Xtreme & all but they won't get affected so please stop spreading rumors like that..

ZMR doesn't have liquid cooling, it has an oil cooler i.e an oil cooled engine..moreover you saying that a Bajaj bike is low on maintenance than a Hero bike?? dude Hero bikes sell on basis of reliability & less maintenance over Bajaj bikes..

Good all this year i thought ZMR is liquid cool!! Ahh!! it's only oil cool!! nice to know that.
checked the site for the same and it is mentioned:

If it's oil cooled then why din't they mention that, why it is written as air cooled?? please clarify, as you own one.

For rummors are you sure that if ZMR is affected then you will pay back the money invested by TS ??

It's easy to tell people buy this and buy that but what about the agony he has to face later??

Those days are gone when Hero was best low maintenance bikes, Now Bajaj has records of low maintenace spare parts!!

Bajaj has broken Hero's each and every sales!! Are people mad ?? buying bajaj bike sout there??

Stop publiciting Hero's product !!

I am suggesting on current scenario of Hero and discontinued products in future...But tell me why will Honda allow Hero to use their tech even after few years??? Why?? Now Honda itself is self sufficient company in India!!

So stop mingling the people's mind!!

Both you guys provoked me to think this way...

Oil = Liquid
But why Oil cooled <> Liquid cooled

This is my confusion too from years!!
Why they don't say water cooled Vs Oil Cooled, where as both are liquid cooling systems..lol....

show me a single source where Hero had talked about discontinuing their products other than Ignitor,Impulse or Maestro..
They have already said that they will change the names only & they already did from the current lot..its like CBZ Xtreme will become Xtreme now & PGM-FI will be named as FI only in stickers..but these things doesn't even matter..

you saying that Bajaj's Spare parts are cheaper that means its low on maintenance?? Spare on Hero bikes doesn't break easily after years & apart few very few mandatory changes Hero bikes doesn't ask for any other maintenance..

Bajaj broke sales of HMC..when?? where?? biggest joke..

oil cooling is very different than Liquid cooling..in Liquid cooling we pour separate coolant which cools the entire engine..but in case of oil cooled engine,oil goes through an oil cooler from where heat gets dispatched & oil becomes cooler before entering engine which doesn't make engine as hot as an engine solely running on air cooling..

Araey boss, I'm aware of the basics & their working; I'm just confused on the terminologies that's all

Like I said, oil is also liquid, coolant is also liquid; then how come liquid cool does not imply oil cooled?

May be (may be), oil cooled is branched out to specifically say "OIL" & Liquid for anything other than OIL

Whatever, both you guys got me to think for a moment

Sorry for offtopic .

One posts suggest ZMR is good for city , other questioning on it Isn't this two posts are 2 different saying ?
May be somen bro you are not clear about ZMR capability , i hope you have rided it , if not then ride it before judging it .
BTW it don't have liquid cooling , its has an oil cooled engine .