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  • #61
    Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

    Originally posted by heman_idle View Post
    Congrats Praveen,, I am Hemanth from madanapalle.. I am also thinking about to buy this bike.. i have some doubts in this bike... If you don't mind can you give some valuble answers..??

    1.How much your getting millage in city and Highways ..???

    2. Are you getting any vibration at 70-80 Kmph speed..??

    3.is bike is smooth or rough..??/
    You can get from 30kmph to 45 kmph in cities depending on how you ride and follow run in.
    2.Vibrations are due to bajaj engine oil, switch to motul and no vibes till 100kmph IF you maintain your bike.
    3.till 125kmph, bike is super smooth, after that engine feels a little rough.
    Note that only the name pulsar is common with older pulsars, rest nothing is common, in terms of quality, dependence,value, this bike is way ahead than the rest of pulsars.
    Fyi- ns owner.

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    • #62
      Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

      Its been numerous times now that its mentioned of 'vibrations' due to Bajaj dtsi oil. How can a particular engine oil cause vibrations ?

      What it causes is called "HARSHNESS" and happens due to less lubrication between the engine parts.
      The purpose of an engine oil is of lubrication. It won't help in minimizing vibration.
      What are Vibrations in the first place, that you say bajaj oil causes vibrations. ?
      Every other pages has a few posts saying use Motul oil and there won't be any vibs till high in the rev range. It won't stop vibs, what it will do is provide better lubrication and make the engine run smooth. This is the reason all you say there won't be vibrations.
      Vibration happens due to many other factors.

      Ride safe and have fun.
      Regards
      Nadeem

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      • #63
        Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

        Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
        Its been numerous times now that its mentioned of 'vibrations' due to Bajaj dtsi oil. How can a particular engine oil cause vibrations ?

        What it causes is called "HARSHNESS" and happens due to less lubrication between the engine parts.
        The purpose of an engine oil is of lubrication. It won't help in minimizing vibration.
        What are Vibrations in the first place, that you say bajaj oil causes vibrations. ?
        Every other pages has a few posts saying use Motul oil and there won't be any vibs till high in the rev range. It won't stop vibs, what it will do is provide better lubrication and make the engine run smooth. This is the reason all you say there won't be vibrations.
        Vibration happens due to many other factors.
        Beg to differ, being a 200ns owner,and completing 2000kms on bajaj and 1000kms on motul, the difference is drastically high. Even a fresh dtsi oil ns has more vibes than my 1k old motuled ns.

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        • #64
          Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

          Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
          Beg to differ, being a 200ns owner,and completing 2000kms on bajaj and 1000kms on motul, the difference is drastically high. Even a fresh dtsi oil ns has more vibes than my 1k old motuled ns.
          With due respect, I don't know what you all feel

          I said what I feel is correct, now up-to you all to decide.

          Ride safe and have fun.
          Regards
          Nadeem

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          • #65
            Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

            Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
            With due respect, I don't know what you all feel

            I said what I feel is correct, now up-to you all to decide.
            Buddy you have a 200ns. ? If yes then try motul once, dtsi crap maybe suited for 150,180's etc but Not for 200ns sure with EXPERIENCE.

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            • #66
              Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

              Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
              Buddy you have a 200ns. ? If yes then try motul once, dtsi crap maybe suited for 150,180's etc but Not for 200ns sure with EXPERIENCE.
              i don't own 200ns, FZ-16 it is

              But the point is, bike isn't the thing here. Every bike has the same mechanics and a good engine oil would only provide smooth running engine and would keep on providing the same for longer kms. Dtsi may be crap, but it won't cause vibrations. That is the point i am talking about.
              If you get vibs, there might be other reason for that.

              Ride safe and have fun.
              Regards
              Nadeem

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              • #67
                Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                i don't own 200ns, FZ-16 it is

                But the point is, bike isn't the thing here. Every bike has the same mechanics and a good engine oil would only provide smooth running engine and would keep on providing the same for longer kms. Dtsi may be crap, but it won't cause vibrations. That is the point i am talking about.
                If you get vibs, there might be other reason for that.
                I had tried everything, daily nut bolt tightening to regular visits, vibes weren't that large (thank God) ,but being a pre Honda bike guy, it was not acceptable, then my friend suggested me motul, and now I'm one happy bajaj guy. Ps, my r15 friend also praises the "change".
                And I've also had my warranty cut off for the same, But the pleasure I get now, is nothing compared to it.

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                • #68
                  Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                  I heard from one Bajaj Service person that Motul oil is not at all recommended for NS. He said to go for either Castrol or even Shell. I wonder why...

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                  • #69
                    Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                    Originally posted by prathappa View Post
                    @Praveen24 @Avinash Singh
                    Whats the mileage you both are getting. And is it normal that sometimes by mistake the rpm goes to 5000 and then comes back to 3000 rpm while gear shifting. Would it affect the engine in those 5 seconds?
                    Absolutely not! The idea is to keep a good mix. You cannot pamper the bike more than required. Its very important to occasionally take it to higher rpms for a short duration.

                    IMO, no bike is a guarantied "virgin". It must have been ridden a km or two when you took delivery and more often than not the guy must have revved the life out of it. Have seen many a times. Even when you give it for servicing what the assurance that it is not revved beyond 4k rpms? Just saying.
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                    • #70
                      Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                      Originally posted by heman_idle View Post
                      Congrats Praveen,, I am Hemanth from madanapalle.. I am also thinking about to buy this bike.. i have some doubts in this bike... If you don't mind can you give some valuble answers..??

                      1.How much your getting millage in city and Highways ..???

                      2. Are you getting any vibration at 70-80 Kmph speed..??

                      3.is bike is smooth or rough..??/
                      Sure bro

                      1) Mileage depends on the speed you ride (If you ride at 50 - 65 you'll get around 40 kmpl), (If you ride at 80 kmph you'll get abouve 35 kmpl),(If you ride above 100 you'll get around 30 kmph).

                      2) If you ride the bike in pot hole roads and other bad roads or reaching higher RPM's there's some vibration(but new 200ns has less vibration than older edition). The seat is very hard and have to do some changes on the seat for comfortable ride.

                      3) Well it depends on the rider, If you're ripping the bike always then it's rough, if you're riding at the average of 50 to 80's in city limits and above 50 to (max speed) in highways will keep the engine smooth. If you rip it inside the city there won't be any smoothness in the engine, if you ride at proper speeds and proper maintenance is given then the bike's smoothness remains. (Using Motul will keep the bike smooth and no vibrations at higher speeds).

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                      • #71
                        Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                        riding at speeds of 80-90 kmph i get 37-38 kmpl.
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                        • #72
                          Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                          Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                          i don't own 200ns, FZ-16 it is

                          But the point is, bike isn't the thing here. Every bike has the same mechanics and a good engine oil would only provide smooth running engine and would keep on providing the same for longer kms. Dtsi may be crap, but it won't cause vibrations. That is the point i am talking about.
                          If you get vibs, there might be other reason for that.
                          Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
                          I had tried everything, daily nut bolt tightening to regular visits, vibes weren't that large (thank God) ,but being a pre Honda bike guy, it was not acceptable, then my friend suggested me motul, and now I'm one happy bajaj guy. Ps, my r15 friend also praises the "change".
                          And I've also had my warranty cut off for the same, But the pleasure I get now, is nothing compared to it.

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                          Butting in late, but an engine oil is never the cause of less/more vibrations. As Nadeem bhai said, it is harshness people confuse with vibes.
                          I don't know if 200NS has a counter balancer or not (to smoothen out vibes).

                          Engine oil only flows through the entire casing to ensure all parts are well lubricated. Exactly the reason Splendors are such a hit. The engine isn't upright; rather horizontal, thus keeping ALL engine components dipped in oil already. In our bikes, with upright engines; we need to idle for 45-60 sec to ensure the engine oil is squirted at other moving components which were devoid of oil until then (while the bike was parked) and then ride for 2-3 kms at lower revs to ensure the engine comes to optimal operating temperatures.

                          MOTUL is better than Bajaj DTSi oil in its viscosity coefficient. It gets into smaller gaps as well and hence provides better lubrication. This way, the engine feels smoother with lesser roughening forces produced :
                          1. in the engine,
                          2. transferred to the engine mount bolts,
                          3. then transferred to the frame and
                          4. subsequently the handle bars and foot pegs.

                          This gives the impression of less vibes.

                          EDIT - BTW, did you play with AFR settings of late? A low idle can give vibrations!
                          Last edited by Divya Sharan; 02-25-2014, 10:15 AM. Reason: EDIT added
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                          • #73
                            Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                            Yesterday there was a light drizzle in my city. This was the first time I rode in wet conditions. One instance I was going at 40 kmph when I braked to stop for a red light. To my utter shock the bike skidded a good 5 mts before stopping. It was really scary. Guys be very careful with the stock tyres they are very bad in the rain

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                            • #74
                              Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                              Originally posted by Rohit Rane View Post
                              Yesterday there was a light drizzle in my city. This was the first time I rode in wet conditions. One instance I was going at 40 kmph when I braked to stop for a red light. To my utter shock the bike skidded a good 5 mts before stopping. It was really scary. Guys be very careful with the stock tyres they are very bad in the rain
                              What did you expect? After all, those are TVS EUROSLIPS.
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                              • #75
                                Re: Problems with Pulsar 200 NS

                                Originally posted by Rohit Rane View Post
                                Yesterday there was a light drizzle in my city. This was the first time I rode in wet conditions. One instance I was going at 40 kmph when I braked to stop for a red light. To my utter shock the bike skidded a good 5 mts before stopping. It was really scary. Guys be very careful with the stock tyres they are very bad in the rain

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                                Even though yes the tyres may not be as good as other aftermarket ones, I still think you lost traction because of bad braking. Practice braking.

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