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  • sparky
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    Matt black looks good only when the bike is new or when the bike is washed, else the matt effect is not easily seen much.

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  • ht511
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    Please can anyone suggests me for the colour of thunderbird.
    I have booked the bike in marine colour and it has already arrived at the showroom. but whenever I seematt black TB I get second thoughts for marine (went for marine because there were no choices left).
    The dealer says Matte black doesn't last more then 8-9 months and then during servicing workers put oil hands and all it become glossy very fast hence there is no point in going for Matte colours.
    Guys please suggest that Matt black is really that tough to maintain and does not last 8 months?
    Last edited by ht511; 06-25-2017, 10:35 PM.

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  • tappet
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    Originally posted by rugved View Post
    First and foremost, Stay away from pre-owned vehicles, unless its from someone you know and one who keeps maintains hi vehicles as good as new in all possible ways. Buy a fresh bike, maintain it in top condition yourself.
    Hi rugved, thank you for the insight. I'd better forget about going second hand. I have been closely following RE 500 ownership reviews across the forum for the past couple of months to prepare myself for the RE ownership and fairly understood the amount of attention and care one has to spend. No, I have not looked at any other motorcycle other than the STD 350 & 500. The RE will not be an upgrade or replacement for me, rather its a decision purely based on my heart to experience RE. I have set my eyes on the STD 500 in Black color.

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  • mknaidu11
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    Bullet exhaust is very loud, can't stand the decibel! Highly annoying sound.

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  • rugved
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    Originally posted by mknaidu11 View Post
    I wonder always, how come people like a kilometre of exhaust pipe (a burn hazard to legs), a deafening exhaust note from the bullets. It has kept me away all the time to consider one to be owned.
    Really, a kilometre long exhaust pipe? with legs of matching length to burn? all in good jokes .

    cant help people right...They ride not only REs but many regular 150cc or some 2-stroker bikes too with modified loud exhausts, decorations, lights, and to top it all they'd stunt, race and most dangerously, use phones while riding...

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    Originally posted by tappet View Post
    Hi guys, I am in my early 30's and have been riding motorcyles for my daily office commute for close to 8 years until 2015 after which I shifted to 4 wheels due to traffic, heat and pollution. My previous motorcycles were couple of 150cc and then graduated to 250cc. I have never owned a Royal Enfield but I have ridden a Classic 350 for couple of kilometers few years back and I did not like it because of the vibrations. In the last few years the Classic 350 has become a popular motorcycle and a common sight. Personally I like the looks of the Standard and don't like the loud ear shattering after market exhaust. Now, after all these years, out of no where I am smitten by the bullet bug and I want to own a Bullet 500 mainly to experience the Royal Enfield ownership and I don't intend to sell it and I have a scooter as my primary grocery ride. My usage will be limited to weekend short rides and occasional one day rides limited to 150-250kms a day. I am considering the 500 over the 350 because it will be my only RE and I want it to be the best and biggest from RE and the 350 is common. I am a slow rider and hence I think the 500's torque will be the fun factor here. Occasionally I get my hands dirty with my motorcycles by sorting out niggles and replace most of the parts myself so I think I can handle niggles which RE tends to have and poor service centers. But on seeing the popularity of RE motorcycles on the road I think RE is making niggle free motorcycles which can be used as a reliable daily commuter motorcycle. Last week I visited a RE showroom in Chennai and the Standard 500 looked massive and me at 5.6ft could only touch both my feet on the ground but I think slicing a layer off the seat will improve. Costs Rs1.83L on-road with one month waiting period. Besides, I also checked in Olx and found couple of 2014 Standard 500's with approx. 8000kms with asking price of around 1.25L.

    So, can the Standard 500 be used as a weekend ride? Because I read in few places that a 500 should be used everyday to keep the mechanicals fit.
    Is the asking price for 2014 Std 500 with 8k kms fair enough? Or a brand new motorcycle is the best bet?
    Hi Tappet! (nice choice for username)

    First and foremost, Stay away from pre-owned vehicles, unless its from someone you know and one who keeps maintains hi vehicles as good as new in all possible ways.
    Buy a fresh bike, maintain it in top condition yourself.

    The choice of 500cc is definitely not a problem in any way. Your intended usage is occasional and weekend rides. That would be good for this version. It will give you all the torque you need, be it in 1st gear or Top. Daily city use and traffic jams will leave you with a tired clutch hand and with a very hot and angry engine.

    You will definitely have to figure out your Footing and its reach before you get a bike because in worse of conditions it will be 100% necessary that you be able to stabilise the 190+ kilogram bike with both feet planted and with a pillion too (if at all).

    This is a 500cc single piston engine, so there is no escape from vibes, but vibes are not that harsh at its intended speed/rpm range, and in stock conditions the vibes are pretty much dampened. At very high speeds, or at idling you will experience some vibes, can help; Single cylinder...

    You have graduated from 150cc to 250cc bikes in past and in that case everything generally improves, better speed, better pickup, smoother engine. But DO NOT EXPECT a similar experience now that you plan a 500cc engine. It will give you all the torque, like a locomotive, but it wont give you those 3 digit speeds beyond 120 or so. This is just not that kind of a bike.

    However as long as you keep it in its speed territory, it will keep munching away the miles as steady as a clock work, without breaking sweat and with no signs of stress, and that’s exactly its nature.

    Niggles or no niggles depend on how you run in the bike and how you maintain it (one of the reasons to NOT go for a second hand bike). This is definitely not a fill it and forget it type of bike and you must pay attention to any minor symptom and get it checked before it becomes trouble. With that being said, this is also not (anymore) a bike that you sit with, with a spanner and wrench and keep on fixing it for eternity and or drag it to mechanic at all times. The newer engines have changed this.

    Though there are certain known problems that people observe/face with certain models, like fuel gauges are never accurate, hose pipes age very quick, etc. ASCs are definitely a trial and error affair till you find a good and trustworthy one.
    You said this will be your first and only RE. So better go for a fresh bike, enjoy the peace of mind of warranty and if you feel apprehensive of breakdowns leaving you stranded, opt for RSA as well.

    Other than that, whether you use your bike only weekends or even lesser, it will be a good practice to keep cranking it atleast once in 2 days.

    Other than that, if you are looking for a bike in 300cc and above category and hence venturing into the idea of RE ownership, then perhaps you will have to take second thoughts. Buy an RE only if you are looking for an RE.

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    Originally posted by prashnagpal View Post
    Tb500 or classic 500? And why? 85-90% city usage and occasional weekend rides. Tia
    Hi PrashNagpal,

    Whether TB or CL, this depends completely on the posture and seating position you want. CL has slightly shorter saddle height and ample pillion seating space, lower handle bars. TBTS has slightly taller saddle, raised handle bar and foot pegs are slightly forward and not under the knee like in CL as well as a shorter (in length) pillion seat.

    With 85-90% city usage, 500cc may not be the best option to select from. A traffic jam will leave you with tired clutch hand and a heated up engine.
    500cc will generate more heat than 350cc, ergo it will need you to feed it appropriately some more speed for the engine block fins to cool down.

    Whether RE or not, and Why…that is what You need to commit before you decide whether TB or CL…

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    Originally posted by prashnagpal View Post
    The only thing i can ensure is giving it for regular service at the service centres. More than this am willing to spend what it takes to do these regular services but when it comes to understanding what the issues are etc I won't be able to as i am not knowledgeable regarding these machines. Just love riding!
    Hey Buddy, a wierd new noise, different engine behaviour, something loose, dangling, out of place, un-even tire wear, unusual vehicle behaviour, vehicle pulling to one side, slow pickup, engine stall at unexpected speed+gear combination, unusual fuel consumption, faulty flickering electricals, oil levels under minimum, etc...these are some of tell tale signs you need to watchout for, in all your vehicles, whether 2 wheels or four (or more ).

    same things you need to watchout for with RE as well. nothing more.

    With any vehicle you would definitely need to give a thorough look to the vehicle and familiarise your self to all parts and their purpose, otherwise not only would you Not be able to detect a problem before it grows, but also the mechanics would take you for a ride when you take your car/bike in to their garage.
    Last edited by rugved; 06-22-2017, 12:27 PM.

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  • mknaidu11
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    I wonder always, how come people like a kilometre of exhaust pipe (a burn hazard to legs), a deafening exhaust note from the bullets. It has kept me away all the time to consider one to be owned.

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  • prashnagpal
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    Originally posted by tappet View Post
    Apart from regular service, you may face niggling issues which may crop up now and then which will require visit to service center or local trusted mechanic. You may not have to be knowledgeable to sort the issues yourself but you should learn to identify what is wrong with the motorcycle and report to the mechanic. As long as you are willing to take care of the motorcycle instead of just relying on scheduled service you can own a RE for a long time.
    Thanks for the suggestion. I will need to give it a good thought before I decide to buy it.

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  • tappet
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    Originally posted by prashnagpal View Post
    The only thing i can ensure is giving it for regular service at the service centres. More than this am willing to spend what it takes to do these regular services but when it comes to understanding what the issues are etc I won't be able to as i am not knowledgeable regarding these machines. Just love riding!
    Apart from regular service, you may face niggling issues which may crop up now and then which will require visit to service center or local trusted mechanic. You may not have to be knowledgeable to sort the issues yourself but you should learn to identify what is wrong with the motorcycle and report to the mechanic. As long as you are willing to take care of the motorcycle instead of just relying on scheduled service you can own a RE for a long time.

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  • prashnagpal
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    Originally posted by tappet View Post
    Please understand. You buy a RE only if you are ready to face the niggles and issues reported by others. If you are still confused you can consider other brands easily available in the market. I have made up my mind to spend time and money to experience RE ownership. RE is continuously improving the product quality but they still have a long way to go.
    Would you still feel i can go ahead?

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  • prashnagpal
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    Originally posted by tappet View Post
    Please understand. You buy a RE only if you are ready to face the niggles and issues reported by others. If you are still confused you can consider other brands easily available in the market. I have made up my mind to spend time and money to experience RE ownership. RE is continuously improving the product quality but they still have a long way to go.
    The only thing i can ensure is giving it for regular service at the service centres. More than this am willing to spend what it takes to do these regular services but when it comes to understanding what the issues are etc I won't be able to as i am not knowledgeable regarding these machines. Just love riding!

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  • tappet
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    Originally posted by prashnagpal View Post
    It was much smoother than classic 500. Still confused. Don't want to repent going in for an re after seeing so many ppl curse on forums.
    Please understand. You buy a RE only if you are ready to face the niggles and issues reported by others. If you are still confused you can consider other brands easily available in the market. I have made up my mind to spend time and money to experience RE ownership. RE is continuously improving the product quality but they still have a long way to go.

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  • prashnagpal
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    Originally posted by tappet View Post
    Thanks SHAURYA1405. Do you think I can use the STD 500 primarily as my weekend rider? Or the bike has to be used everyday?




    I'd suggest the Thunderbird for its additional features which are absolutely essential and super bargain for the mere Rs10k cost difference between Classic 500 and TB 500.

    Projector headlamp
    LED tail lamps
    Tachometer
    Digital clock
    20 Liter fuel tank
    Rear disc brake

    Also I heard from some owners that Thunderbird's seats are better for long rides for both rider and passenger.
    It was much smoother than classic 500. Still confused. Don't want to repent going in for an re after seeing so many ppl curse on forums.

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  • tappet
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    IMHO I own a TBTS 500 currently and have owned early 91' model of bullet 350 (3rd hand), and I recommend to always to go for a first hand bike especially if going for a Royal Enfield.
    Thanks SHAURYA1405. Do you think I can use the STD 500 primarily as my weekend rider? Or the bike has to be used everyday?


    Originally posted by prashnagpal View Post
    Guys please takeout some time and do give your feedback as i am completely new to RE's. Just wondering if this is the right choice for me.
    I'd suggest the Thunderbird for its additional features which are absolutely essential and super bargain for the mere Rs10k cost difference between Classic 500 and TB 500.

    Projector headlamp
    LED tail lamps
    Tachometer
    Digital clock
    20 Liter fuel tank
    Rear disc brake

    Also I heard from some owners that Thunderbird's seats are better for long rides for both rider and passenger.

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  • prashnagpal
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    Guys please takeout some time and do give your feedback as i am completely new to RE's. Just wondering if this is the right choice for me.

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  • prashnagpal
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    My preference after today's test ride was tb500 as I found it more relaxing and comfortable. Also the goodies it comes with are worth 10k extra I felt.

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