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  • #16
    Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

    Originally posted by iVinay View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion, I was indeed planning to wait until Auto Expo 2016 but I guess I got carried away with my impulsiveness. I have PM'ed and WhatsApp'ed too about your 600i!



    I'm also trying to understand on what basis is the cost price expensive for Benelli TNT300 when compared to Duke 390. I'm not comparing the two bikes directly as I understand Benelli has twin cylinder, bigger fuel tank, manufactured in India and so on. I couldn't get a clarity on why Benelli (3.55L) is priced 1.25 Lakhs more than Duke 390 (2.25L).

    The more time I spend reading about other bikes, I felt TNT 600i and ER-6n were VFM for the price they are selling currently: TNT 600i is 6.28 Lakhs and ER-6n is 5.60 Lakhs. This is when I felt I would take a loan and upgrade to a better bike than feeling confused between Duke 390 vs Benelli TNT300 vs Yamaha R3 (or MT-03).

    My idea of choosing a perfect bike might not be right but if you have any suggestions, please share them.
    TNT300 is a CKD and not Indian manufactured, parts are imported from China and assembled in Pune facility of DSK. The same goes with 600.
    Hence the price difference due to import duty and stuffs.

    It depends totally upto you. If you think you wont upgrade for a while and can handle the power of the bigger bikes, go for it. Moreover, Like I earlier quoted, you should be ready to take a hit with your money in terms of maintenance, fuel spending and others, which might come anywhere close to 45k(25k for maintenance and 20k for fuel) per annum for a 600, may be 10-15k less for a 300.

    So, look for your practicality than falling for any vehicle. In the end, it must be a usable tool, If you havent taken a TD of 600, try taking one and decide. I doubt in Chennai, er-6n TD they give it or not.
    R15S - Current
    Honda Dio - Current
    TNT 600i - Sold
    Classic 500 - Sold
    Pulsar 220 dtsi - Sold
    Yamaha YBX125 - Sold

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    • #17
      Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

      Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
      TNT300 is a CKD and not Indian manufactured, parts are imported from China and assembled in Pune facility of DSK. The same goes with 600.
      Hence the price difference due to import duty and stuffs.

      It depends totally upto you. If you think you wont upgrade for a while and can handle the power of the bigger bikes, go for it. Moreover, Like I earlier quoted, you should be ready to take a hit with your money in terms of maintenance, fuel spending and others, which might come anywhere close to 45k(25k for maintenance and 20k for fuel) per annum for a 600, may be 10-15k less for a 300.

      So, look for your practicality than falling for any vehicle. In the end, it must be a usable tool, If you havent taken a TD of 600, try taking one and decide. I doubt in Chennai, er-6n TD they give it or not.
      With great power comes great responsibility and expenses! Along with 45k I think we need to add 15k for the insurance, making the total ~60k which indeed is a lot! I'll consider that for sure, thanks for the input. I haven't taken a TD on 600i yet, I'll try that or take yours for a spin! ER-6n isn't available for TD in Chennai, one has to book it to try it!

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      • #18
        Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

        Originally posted by iVinay View Post
        I've been on FZ for 5 years now, enjoyed it thoroughly until I took a Duke 200 for a ride recently from a friend and I found it to blazing fast. I had the Duke for couple of days and enjoyed the ride completely. I've been thinking of upgrading to a better and faster bike and I feel pretty much attracted towards Duke -- probably go for the 390 one!? Before I jump into conclusing just by riding one bike, I wanted to take some suggestions from here -- test ride and go for the best. Most of my friends seem to be going for RE lately and I haven't rided a RE yet. I understand AutoExpo 2016 is happening next month with new releases around 200+ CC lines and I'm willing to wait to pick the right one.

        To provide more inputs on my requirements:

        1. Budget: ~3 Lakhs
        2. Age: 30 (Yeah!)
        3. Height: 6' 0"
        4. Weight: 85 KGs
        5. Intended Usage: For long rides during weekends and possibly road trips.
        6. Fuel Efficiency: ~35 KMs
        7. City & Highway Percentage Usage: 70% (City) & 30% (Highway)


        I want to use the long weekend to visit some showrooms for test ride, please suggest the bikes I should definitely take for a test ride too! Thanks a lot in advance!
        A couple of things:

        When you are ready to spend 3Lakhs on a bike you shouldnt be bothered about the Fuel Efficiency.

        Your intended usage is long rides during weekends but then you say your city usage is 70%. Do you like going on long rides within the city?

        Originally posted by iVinay View Post
        Yes, I read about it but is this confirmed? I think the same with Yamaha MT-03, Baja CS400 and Honda CBR-400. All these are rumored to be released at AutoExpo. May be the best is to wait for 10 days to get the facts right!


        MT-03 is confirmed to launch here. Others in that list are just rumors for now. As far as G310R is concerned, dont except it to launch here anytime soon. Although it maybe showcased in the AutoExpo, BMW Motorrad does not have the infrastructure to sell that bike. Even if TVS dealers were to outsource the bike, we are still looking at a good amount of time for the TVS SVC personnel to get properly trained for handling the BMW Bike.
        Last edited by RoyalIndian; 01-28-2016, 09:40 PM.

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        • #19
          Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

          Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
          A couple of things:

          When you are ready to spend 3Lakhs on a bike you shouldnt be bothered about the Fuel Efficiency.

          Your intended usage is long rides during weekends but then you say your city usage is 70%. Do you like going on long rides within the city?



          MT-03 is confirmed to launch here. Others in that list are just rumors for now. As far as G310R is concerned, dont except it to launch here anytime soon. Although it maybe showcased in the AutoExpo, BMW Motorrad does not have the infrastructure to sell that bike. Even if TVS dealers were to outsource the bike, we are still looking at a good amount of time for the TVS SVC personnel to get properly trained for handling the BMW Bike.
          Fuel Efficiency isn't something I'm very particular about (good to have and not must have) and until I read more about these bikes I didn't have a clue on their average FEs. I think I'll be fine with ~25 too! I recently moved to suburbs of the city and every commute to city is roughly 40+ KMs one way and for a return trip is close to 90-100 KMs so yes it's sort of long rides within the city. I probably was too broad about my city usage but with the new upgrade, I would want to go on weekend long rides (300-350 KMs).

          Thanks for assuring on the MT-03 part and hopefully it gets launched. This is one solid reason why I'm holding off my purchase plans until the Auto Expo is over but the showroom guys say it isn't. I checked out R3 today and I totally liked it although I'm not a big fan of fairings. R3 costs 3.68L on-road and I hope the MT-03 comes around 3-3.1L which should be a killer price to compete with TNT300.

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          • #20
            Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

            Originally posted by iVinay View Post
            Fuel Efficiency isn't something I'm very particular about (good to have and not must have) and until I read more about these bikes I didn't have a clue on their average FEs. I think I'll be fine with ~25 too! I recently moved to suburbs of the city and every commute to city is roughly 40+ KMs one way and for a return trip is close to 90-100 KMs so yes it's sort of long rides within the city. I probably was too broad about my city usage but with the new upgrade, I would want to go on weekend long rides (300-350 KMs).

            Thanks for assuring on the MT-03 part and hopefully it gets launched. This is one solid reason why I'm holding off my purchase plans until the Auto Expo is over but the showroom guys say it isn't. I checked out R3 today and I totally liked it although I'm not a big fan of fairings. R3 costs 3.68L on-road and I hope the MT-03 comes around 3-3.1L which should be a killer price to compete with TNT300.
            You cna also wait for the CBR300R.Thats a very good proven bike and looks awesome.yes Yamaha will launch but i think its gonna cost close to 4 Lakhs Onroad.
            If you are specific about twin cylinder then yes MT03 is an option or probably the best in class but with CBR300R you actually end up saving a lot of money(Might cost 2.5 Onraod with ABS)saving more than 1.2 Lakhs and also Honmda reliability and their killer engines.
            I would urge you to check some reviews in Youtube about 300R and probably decide which one suits you good.

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            • #21
              Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

              Originally posted by iVinay View Post
              Fuel Efficiency isn't something I'm very particular about (good to have and not must have) and until I read more about these bikes I didn't have a clue on their average FEs. I think I'll be fine with ~25 too! I recently moved to suburbs of the city and every commute to city is roughly 40+ KMs one way and for a return trip is close to 90-100 KMs so yes it's sort of long rides within the city. I probably was too broad about my city usage but with the new upgrade, I would want to go on weekend long rides (300-350 KMs).

              Thanks for assuring on the MT-03 part and hopefully it gets launched. This is one solid reason why I'm holding off my purchase plans until the Auto Expo is over but the showroom guys say it isn't. I checked out R3 today and I totally liked it although I'm not a big fan of fairings. R3 costs 3.68L on-road and I hope the MT-03 comes around 3-3.1L which should be a killer price to compete with TNT300.
              It was debated that the MT03 will cost around 30k-40k less than the R3 so if you can stock up 50k more above the 3Lakh then the MT03 will be the best Investment you can make. Dont go for TNT300. I am not saying its bad when if you have the MT03 as an option then go for the MT03, it will be worth it. As for FE, MT03 gives around 24 (Certified by Yamaha). Not sure what the On-road values are. Source: Yamaha MT-03 Price, Specs, Review, Pics & Mileage in India


              Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
              You cna also wait for the CBR300R.Thats a very good proven bike and looks awesome.yes Yamaha will launch but i think its gonna cost close to 4 Lakhs Onroad.
              If you are specific about twin cylinder then yes MT03 is an option or probably the best in class but with CBR300R you actually end up saving a lot of money(Might cost 2.5 Onraod with ABS)saving more than 1.2 Lakhs and also Honmda reliability and their killer engines.
              I would urge you to check some reviews in Youtube about 300R and probably decide which one suits you good.

              Dont bother, CBR 300R and 500R wont come here anytime soon. As you should know by now HMSI likes to milk indian customers will old bikes so those 2 bikes will probably not come this year. Also Vinay seems like a Naked lover so I dont think he would go with the 300R even if it was available

              Also when you say he will be saving more than 1.2lakhs with the 300R, you are giving the wrong justification for it. Please try to understand you cannot compare a Single cylinder bike with a Twin. Every cylinder added to a bike will increase its price and on top of that, parallel twin CKDs will be even more expensive. Currently we dont have an Indian made bike that is a parallel twin.

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              • #22
                Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
                It was debated that the MT03 will cost around 30k-40k less than the R3 so if you can stock up 50k more above the 3Lakh then the MT03 will be the best Investment you can make. Dont go for TNT300. I am not saying its bad when if you have the MT03 as an option then go for the MT03, it will be worth it. As for FE, MT03 gives around 24 (Certified by Yamaha). Not sure what the On-road values are. Source: Yamaha MT-03 Price, Specs, Review, Pics & Mileage in India





                Dont bother, CBR 300R and 500R wont come here anytime soon. As you should know by now HMSI likes to milk indian customers will old bikes so those 2 bikes will probably not come this year. Also Vinay seems like a Naked lover so I dont think he would go with the 300R even if it was available

                Also when you say he will be saving more than 1.2lakhs with the 300R, you are giving the wrong justification for it. Please try to understand you cannot compare a Single cylinder bike with a Twin. Every cylinder added to a bike will increase its price and on top of that, parallel twin CKDs will be even more expensive. Currently we dont have an Indian made bike that is a parallel twin.
                Yeah agree with u.Honda has such amazing bikes but damn those fools doesn't bother to launch those here.I hope they launch 300r,if not people r gonna be pissed for sure.

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                • #23
                  Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                  Have been following this interesting thread as I'm in similar dilemma, but strictly max upto 3L budget, can the gurus throw light on yearly maintenance for this segment bikes eg cbr250, d390, tnt300, tnt25, r3? From what I've gathered,
                  CBR250 - can be around 3k per service, and maybe 3 services yearly (assuming one hits the service interval before kms). This Would be very helpful to evaluate from a long term ownership perspective.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                    Originally posted by Danej View Post
                    Have been following this interesting thread as I'm in similar dilemma, but strictly max upto 3L budget, can the gurus throw light on yearly maintenance for this segment bikes eg cbr250, d390, tnt300, tnt25, r3? From what I've gathered,
                    CBR250 - can be around 3k per service, and maybe 3 services yearly (assuming one hits the service interval before kms). This Would be very helpful to evaluate from a long term ownership perspective.

                    For Benelli TNT300 Maintenance interval and cost: as shared by @Shashank Suresh

                    1 month or 1k kms - 3.8k - 4k
                    4 months or 4k kms - 5.8k - 6k
                    Yearly expenses approx - 18k for a 300 CC bike.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                      Same here..
                      I too have include the option of upgrading..however I ll look for second hand bikes...if available..

                      Can the experts suggest between Ninja 650 and Er6n

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                      • #26
                        Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                        Originally posted by nirbhayabhi View Post
                        Same here..
                        I too have include the option of upgrading..however I ll look for second hand bikes...if available..

                        Can the experts suggest between Ninja 650 and Er6n
                        Between N650 and ER6N?

                        Are you aware that both bikes belong to a different class? First decide whether you want a Naked bike or a SuperSport

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                        • #27
                          Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                          Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
                          Between N650 and ER6N?

                          Are you aware that both bikes belong to a different class? First decide whether you want a Naked bike or a SuperSport
                          What I know is.. both have same engine configuration..only major difference being fairing..which affects windblast and touring comfort..however few ppl maintain that windblast on ER is manageable..
                          This is what I know..but I am egar to learn.

                          What I want is a capable,reliable, tourer. Looks do not matter..

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                          • #28
                            Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                            Originally posted by nirbhayabhi View Post
                            What I know is.. both have same engine configuration..only major difference being fairing..which affects windblast and touring comfort..however few ppl maintain that windblast on ER is manageable..
                            This is what I know..but I am egar to learn.

                            What I want is a capable,reliable, tourer. Looks do not matter..
                            Versys 650

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                            • #29
                              Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                              Within your budget, (3~4 L). I can think of tnt300, R3, N300. There is also used N650 around 4L, but it's always a gamble. Or wait for a week more, we may have a few more options.

                              They being :
                              CBR300R and MT-03. There could be others too, benelli might bring something. Also Gixxer 250.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Suggestions Required For 250+ CC and 3 Lakhs Budget!

                                Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
                                Versys 650
                                Its 7lacs plus on road in Delhi.. way beyond my pocket..

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