personally i prefer pulsar but i heard from some xbhpians that pulsar lost the engine refinement after 8000kms .but AFAIK pulsar 220 dtsi has new type of engine.so is it solved now by bajaj?? some light in this matter....
one of my friend bought r15 1 week back,and now he has some problem regrading sitting position,as it required lean ride position it can cause back pain and wrist pain.is it right??
is it right that after 10k or 20k kms with proper maintenance 220 dtsi engine will become dull??

R15 tops all.

The areas where R15 lags wrt to above points:
NO Value for Money.
NOT Comfortable over long rides
Top speed is lower than P220
P220 has brilliant straight line stability and performance.

Overall, i would rate P220 9/10 and R15 7/10.

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Rightly said dude.
But r15 has brilliant handling and good engine refinement than the 220

Go for pulsar 220 dude...

I told you that the P220 is the best. Go for it. Even after so many people confirming the same, if you are still thinking of the R15 then there is some fixation in your mind like "can a good GF become a wife?".

This is the 2nd post against R15 by you KP. What happened?

It's the 220 for the rubber burning, mono riding, dragstrip tearing DRAGSTER
It's the R15 for the knee bending, slider sliding, corner blasting TRACK RACER

Personally i don't find any comparison as one is an exotic, the other is a regular!

One is like Suzu 'Busa, fast in a straight line, and stable (P220)

The Other is like a '09 R1, not that fast, but sweet handling and tractable (r15)

SO decide what kinda rider you are, first, then go in on one of these rides!

As a true biker i respect both the bikes.
But when it comes to comparison between R15 and P220, many say R15 is excellent on race tracks. Its true.
BUT, think practically. How many such roads are there in India?
P220 is more composed and a practical bike for day to day life. And most importantly P220 is ~Rs.25,000 cheaper than R15!

I'm tired of saying it, but the R15 does everything any other Indian bike can do, goes everywhere with ease. I guess you have not read Amit's Leh thread. As for daily use also many of us are using it with no compaints.
That said, its upto the threadstarter to himself ride&decide.
If there are specific points it would be better to put those forward, else generally this kind of thread turns into a brand war!

Practical? Where in India can the so called claimed top speed be achieved, safely?
Cheaper? The list never ends

PS: This post is purely fun-intended. Please take it light heartedly. Mods please delete the post if any one reports it!

as usual the thread starter has dissapeared & people are fighting...rather supporting their choice of bikes..

after all the delibrations it boils down to the following:

a)if you have money go for R15 else opt for 220

b)if you like 220 very much,go for it & invest the saved amount on good quality safety gears

simple

I guess that thing was said in a context that 220 generates lot more torque than R15 at lower revv range.
R15 is a high revving machine whereas 220 generates the power from word "Go"

Its upto you TS. If you have the money then i dont find anything wrong in a R15. Neither you will get to test top speeds in India nor handling unless you reside nearby a track.
Have TD's then see what bike suits you. Its just that there is a lot of diff in moolah between a R15 and 220.

hehe...
Reason 1: Public Demand. Speak those words that people want to hear. Trying to become a manager from an engineer
Reason 2: A doctor never prescribes his own medicine.


That apart, I have ridden both the bikes and have seen closely how they adapt and perform in various situations. I know both the bikes pretty well and would say that all those who comment that the R15's ability to take bad roads is limited, have never tried it. The only thing that possibly troubled me on mountain trials (mind you, not bad roads, not no roads but rocky mountain paths) was probably the track based tires and the fellow riders say that I am being over cautious.

And it is not just me. A bunch of people have taken the R15 just anywhere they wanted to and have not heard of any problem, let alone breakdowns.

My first post sends the right message - the reason why I bought the R15 after waiting for over an year for the RTR Fi and after the RTR Fi launch and spending over 50% extra money - cash down.

Having said that, following are the only reasons why or why not I buy the P220:

WHY
1) Headlight


WHY NOT
1) Bench Seat
2) Bajaj's Unreliability. I wish they spend a part of the money they spend on their commercials in giving better quality parts too.

But then, many people here are v. good at maintaining their bikes and hence the unreliability part applies to old blokes like me. So, it is not about which one is more reliable and by how much margin. For most people it is about 'is it reliable enough or not'. The P220 seems to be reliable enough for most of the owners here. Hence, the public demand messages. When an R15 owner says to go for P220 there wouldn't be any brand wars igniting here.

To sign it off, the RTR 180 gives a very tough fight to both the R15 & the P220 in almost every department that is practically useful. And, to me, the ZMA-R still remains the king.

Remember - in a kingdom
>> The best warrior may become the general.
>> The wisest person may become the prime minister.
>> The most beautiful person may become the queen.
>> The most educated person may become the royal Laurette
>> The best technical guy can become the royal engineer/architect
...
...
>> Only the one with the best of all the abilities put together into one great efficient person can be the King.

For me, it is the ZMA-R.



scratch... scratch... scratch...
I hear some people scratching their heads now Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse anyone here.