What i meant was, is ZMR available for TD in any of the HH showrooms here in blore?

I think it will be really difficult to get a TD of the ZMR. Also to be taken into consideration should be the long waiting period of the ZMR.

If i was you and needed a big fast, would have got the 1-5 or the ZMA-R(i already own one). Great bikes, relaxed at high speeds, and totally reliable for commuting.

--Himanshu

even i tried to get a hand on a ZMR for a test ride but none of the showrooms in blore(atleast the ones which i went to)didn't have one for the purpose.Have a TD of the ZMA-R instead.Got a chance to sit on the ZMR and the posture is pretty much similiar to ZMA-R...with the same engine sans the FI you should get a fair idea about how the bike will be...

I did the same went to TD ZMR but cud not get hold of 1. So did a test drive for ZMA instead, checked out the sitting posture on ZMR.....totally was in for buying ZMR...but did not want to wait for 3 months....so bought a ZMA-R 15 days back.....and trust me I LOVE THE CHOICE I MADE......and if you can wait...ZMR will be worth the wait.....

No offense to other bike manufacturers but I really would prefer a HH bike... and trust me....if ZMA can do high speed crusing so well( Quite, sterdy and well handled bike at high speeds).... it would just get better with ZMR....

Dont agree!! As per experience with Karizma-R I belive its most relaxed and refined bike for speeds above 110+kmph on any bike, ZMR would be more icing to it. R15 stands next to this.

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Get a ZMR for TD would be difficult. But If you are able to convince the manager/etc that you would get this then they might consider. Else search for the owner.

and not all ZMR's have 3 months waiting period. Only certain colors.

Iam no zma hater but i dont like it either!
It can cruise at 110+. I accept. But can it cruise at 135+ ? There are many many roads where much much higher speeds can be attained, if not for continuous long bursts atleast for some fair amount of time. If iam not mislead the top speed for zmr is around 126 kmph. The p220 can very well do over 140 kmph (p220 fi is much faster than zma-r and marginally slower than r15. p220 dtsi is much much faster than p220 fi.) even with a heavy pillion.
My verdict zma is not a high speed tourer it is a medium speed tourer.

But from the whole list R15 is the best bike. It has good topend, decent mileage, is a very good handler and has comfortable seating position (my opinion). Still i suggest the p220 for its brutal power delivery and monstrous torque!

PS- iam not starting any brand war.

I can sense this thread heading in the wrong direction.

I personally too, did not like the ZMA-R and that is the reason i did not include ZMR in my list. But since many members recommend it, i would like to TD the bike.

But my main preference would still be to either of R15/P220.

Only confusion in my mind being,

R15 - Cost of spares, Initial cost of bike(a little bit on higher side,though i can manage it), being an FI bike, cant be repaired by any roadside mech.

P220 - Those minor/Major issues which are being discussed in the ownership thread,yet another pulsar(too common on-road).

Go for R15 and you will be happy!
PS: Its a myth that R15 spares are costly and all, maintain the bike and you will always be happy with it!

Yes Yamaha's spares are priced higher than Bajaj's. But they are of better quality and are more durable when used in the environment designed specifically for it.
U cant expect the R15 to do the job of carrying lots of things in village roads. U cant expect it to take any kind of abuse be it due to bad roads or environmental conditions. On the other hand P220 is a bit more durable. Nothing happens even if u hit a pothole badly at high speeds. The R15's rims might break. They are not of inferior quality but they are just not built for taking such kind of abuse. U can drive the p220 with a broken fairing. But the R15's stability may be hit due to a broken fairing. Its aerodynamics would be affected. I think u understood what i mean.

The basic functioning of any bike be it carburetted or fuel injected is the same.
There is very less chance of the R15 breaking down in the middle of nowhere. Work on the engine should be carried out at the svc but the remaining things can be done by any experienced mechanic upon little guidance.

Yes the P220 dtsi has a few issues just like any other new bike. But products are made better over a period of time. It being very common thats the major drawback.

Agreed with everything but one line, high cost of spares doesnt necessarily mean higher cost of ownership! and I would still say a lot of R15 spares are not too pricey for the value they deliver.

I mean the same in my first line. They are priced correctly for the value they deliver!

have had both 220 Fi and Si and SI cruises easily at 110-115kmph and would give you the grunt that she still has more under her belly

are you sure? zma feels strained at anything above 95-100kmph or anything above 6000rpm, its not that it can't do(proved by OD guys in sep '03)

r15 can sit all day at 115kmph@8000 rpm with out blinking, own(owned) both, ride them everyday and yes the guy who has done Bun Burner and Saddle Sore and the only guy in India to do so feels the same(he has done 150000+kms)
, p-220 FI or dts-i can pretty much sit relaxed at ~115kmph

they might not take it in their stride like the way a P-220 or any other Indian motorcycle would but they definitely won't break, will they? i sincerely hope not

Well we (me and my friend) were cruising. Me on my p220 and he on his new R15 for which i had done the run in. We doing 120+ on a single lane road. All of a sudden we came across a pothole and hit it badly. My front wheel bent due to the impact but was still usable at low speeds and used to wobble badly at anything over 60 kmph. The R15's wheel bent at the point of impact and the link to the hub cracked. It was rendered useless and the bike was towed to the svc. Got a new one under insurance. The most surprising thing is he hit at a speed almost 5 kmph lower than me due to better braking. Still its wheel cracked and my heavy-duty wheels survived. Afterall R15 is to be ridden on good roads.

OMG i thought we are paying so much for good quality,
between wasn't there an option to brake and steer?(to a more shallower part of the pot-hole)?