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  • Apache 160 or Yamaha FZ (is it only Looks )

    Hello all,

    I am planning to buy a bike , i like both Apache 160 and Fz .
    I travel 50 km every day , I read a lot of blogs and all turnde to heated discussions but couldnt decide on a bike .

    Is it true that Yamaha Fz gives only 35km in cty limits ?
    As i travel a lot i was also looking at mileage factor , its fine with me if its
    40-45km but 35km is too costly for me to maintain !

    In my opinion (as i have heard & read) Fz is better than apache*.
    Considering :

    Riding (comfortable for long drive)
    handling (because of big rear wheel)
    Performance(smoother gear shifts)
    Looks

    *(when mileage is not considered)

    So i just wanted one issue sorted out !

    If Fz gives 40km will it decrease drastically (even after maintained properly) after 1 or 2 yrs

    And this will be my first Bike !
    So plz help me out in choosing !
    As i keep reading more BLOGS i keep getting MORE Confused
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      • both are good bikes..Apache is better in performance but FZ is better in comfort and refinement..drive both and decide...
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        • Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
          both are good bikes..Apache is better in performance but FZ is better in comfort and refinement..drive both and decide...
          can you tell me something about the mileage in fz , i will drive mostly @ 60-70 only ,
          and one more i forgot to ask i am about 6ft tall will this be comfortable ?
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          • Apache rtr 180 or Fz-s??

            Hey guys,I am about to buy my first bike,and hav shortlisted Apache rtr 180 and Fz-s as the final 2.My budget is 80k,and looking for the 150-180cc section.I am more inclined towards Apache but following reasons are a bit of a concern for me regarding apache...
            Mileage - With the rising fuel prices and being a college student,it is necessary for me to keep the mileage factor in mind
            Comfort-I m 5'11,would the bike suit me and be comfortable enough for me ??
            Durability-The bike I buy should atleast be in good condition for 4 years
            Maintainance-There are a lot of rumors that the maintainance cost after around one year is quite high...is it true??
            Being new to the biking world,I am confused which one to buy,pls guide me which wud b better....

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              • Both are very good bikes.....

                FZ offers better handling & suspension
                Apache Offers better performance with even better exhaust note
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                • Originally posted by rushi7 View Post
                  Hey guys,I am about to buy my first bike,and hav shortlisted Apache rtr 180 and Fz-s as the final 2.My budget is 80k,and looking for the 150-180cc section.I am more inclined towards Apache but following reasons are a bit of a concern for me regarding apache...
                  Mileage - With the rising fuel prices and being a college student,it is necessary for me to keep the mileage factor in mind
                  Comfort-I m 5'11,would the bike suit me and be comfortable enough for me ??
                  Durability-The bike I buy should atleast be in good condition for 4 years
                  Maintainance-There are a lot of rumors that the maintainance cost after around one year is quite high...is it true??
                  Being new to the biking world,I am confused which one to buy,pls guide me which wud b better....

                  i would suggest you to go for A180 RTR ABS..
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                  Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                  Apache RTR160 - Sold
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                  • Originally posted by rushi7 View Post
                    Hey guys,I am about to buy my first bike,and hav shortlisted Apache rtr 180 and Fz-s as the final 2.My budget is 80k,and looking for the 150-180cc section.I am more inclined towards Apache but following reasons are a bit of a concern for me regarding apache...
                    Mileage - With the rising fuel prices and being a college student,it is necessary for me to keep the mileage factor in mind
                    Comfort-I m 5'11,would the bike suit me and be comfortable enough for me ??
                    Durability-The bike I buy should atleast be in good condition for 4 years
                    Maintainance-There are a lot of rumors that the maintainance cost after around one year is quite high...is it true??
                    Being new to the biking world,I am confused which one to buy,pls guide me which wud b better....
                    I have seen 2 of my close pals who own a FZ-16 complaining abt the FE,they drive very sedately,but still cannot manage over 35 in the city,trash it and some time FE drops to the 27~28's...
                    i have inspected both the bike and the bikes are fine,so is their driving style... ask the Fz owners what kind of FE they r getting... (there are some saying i get 50+,leave such comments ) so i geuss you can except the FZ milage arnd 35~38,which is what ppl are getting on the RTR 180...
                    i think you can go into the 40's if you drive the 180 sedately...

                    both will be good,but the Fz's posture is a bit more comfartable,while the rtr's is a bit racy... but both will be comfartable for you i guess

                    finally maintenance,going by the companies name,the yam should do good,but cannot comment here.... but do ask arnd the FZ thread because all i heard abt the fZ was bad (performance and FE),apart from the styling and the brakes...

                    but if you want a bike that will stand bullet proof for 4~5 years,i suggest you also look into the dazzler,FE is in the high 40's, has disk brakes on both sides,similar power to the FZ.... i guess if you take care,even the RTR 180 will last 4 years,easy peasy...
                    do not get tempted by the idiots on the road,to go street racing,as there will be loosers bugging you when they see you on a new bike..
                    keep cool and enjoy and do not hesitate to ask any thing on the respective bike threads after you buy one... Happy riding...
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                    • Thankyou for the advice, I am also concerned of the comfort factor after learning Apache is quite uncomfortable for tall people,is it true?? I would be going on long drives occasionally.
                      Also,its a personal choice,I am not interested in Dazzler.

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                      • Originally posted by rushi7 View Post
                        Thankyou for the advice, I am also concerned of the comfort factor after learning Apache is quite uncomfortable for tall people,is it true?? I would be going on long drives occasionally.
                        Also,its a personal choice,I am not interested in Dazzler.
                        hmm... i'm 176 cms and nver faced any prob... but its again a subjective matter... my body can adjust at almost any position easily without much prob... you can tell those things by doing a test drive only
                        Apache 180

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                        • We have come across many technical terms and abbreviations like

                          TPFC (2004 CBZ)
                          DTSI (Pulsar)
                          PGMFI (GlamourFI and ZMR)
                          ATFT (New CBZ)
                          CVT-II (Flame) and many many more.

                          But the only bike which stands out is the RTR (Racing Throttle Response)

                          Yes, the Racing Throttle Response could be felt real time unlike the above, which merely reflects only in stickers and no difference felt practically.

                          But thats the only thing good about the RTR, the dark side - Horrible handling and poor suspension, which will not even be submissive while applying brakes.

                          I would suggest the FZ anytime over the RTR, With regular service intervals on both bikes the FZ remains stock healthy even after 2 yrs unlike the RTR.

                          Regarding performance still FZ has an edge over. Though it makes only 14PS compared to the 15+ in Apache, FZ revs smooth and silent to the redline than the RTR and Handling, braking is nothing you can compare, FZ is miles ahead.
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                          • Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                            We have come across many technical terms and abbreviations like

                            TPFC (2004 CBZ)
                            DTSI (Pulsar)
                            PGMFI (GlamourFI and ZMR)
                            ATFT (New CBZ)
                            CVT-II (Flame) and many many more.

                            But the only bike which stands out is the RTR (Racing Throttle Response)

                            Yes, the Racing Throttle Response could be felt real time unlike the above, which merely reflects only in stickers and no difference felt practically.

                            But thats the only thing good about the RTR, the dark side - Horrible handling and poor suspension, which will not even be submissive while applying brakes.
                            What The ???
                            I would suggest the FZ anytime over the RTR, With regular service intervals on both bikes the FZ remains stock healthy even after 2 yrs unlike the RTR.

                            Regarding performance still FZ has an edge over. Though it makes only 14PS compared to the 15+ in Apache, FZ revs smooth and silent to the redline than the RTR and Handling, braking is nothing you can compare, FZ is miles ahead.
                            You got alllllllllll things wrong , apache is known for handling braking performance which is unbeatable (of course leaving aside R15) , and regarding vibes its a lot less in new rtr s and the suspension is stiff to help in stability at hogh speeds. i am just pointing out the wrong things that you said i am not against Fz or anything fz is also good bike but of different class
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                            • Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                              We have come across many technical terms and abbreviations like

                              TPFC (2004 CBZ)
                              DTSI (Pulsar)
                              PGMFI (GlamourFI and ZMR)
                              ATFT (New CBZ)
                              CVT-II (Flame) and many many more.

                              But the only bike which stands out is the RTR (Racing Throttle Response)

                              Yes, the Racing Throttle Response could be felt real time unlike the above, which merely reflects only in stickers and no difference felt practically.

                              But thats the only thing good about the RTR, the dark side - Horrible handling and poor suspension, which will not even be submissive while applying brakes.

                              I would suggest the FZ anytime over the RTR, With regular service intervals on both bikes the FZ remains stock healthy even after 2 yrs unlike the RTR.

                              Regarding performance still FZ has an edge over. Though it makes only 14PS compared to the 15+ in Apache, FZ revs smooth and silent to the redline than the RTR and Handling, braking is nothing you can compare, FZ is miles ahead.
                              i dont know on what basis you are saying handling of rtr is horrible.yes fz is avery good bike but it can not beat rtr in performance

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                              • @ kantu and bindyesh

                                I have mentioned horrible handling, because I got spoiled with Yamaha's handling for the past 2 yrs.

                                Even yesterday I had to swap my bike for an RTR 180, I felt like committing suicide at 120Kays (On an access controlled expressway). Road grip is pathetic, Too much of Wind disturbance may be its not well aero dymanic, high speed conering is out of question, unless you change to MRF soft rubber.

                                Vibes, leave them apart. Over 100Kph on an empty stretch I never enjoyed anything rather being too much conscious on road stability.

                                I do admit its nimble within city limits less then 60kays. But I am 100% HONEST IN SAYING FZ HANDLES FAR BETTER THAN APACHE IN EVERY ASPECT and thats what the topic is all about and am not comparing Apache with other bikes.
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