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Old 03-05-2010, 06:39 PM   #1701 (permalink)
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@Ajay... Listen to Wht Big B is Saying bro ...
He has markd all the important points already..

Check For MRF Zapper as in my case those SC ppl tried to fix me up with Eurogrip tyres... But i told them Give me Zapper Or i want my money back..But the Delivery Guy refused...then i showed them my true colour.. I started behaving stubborn like a baby.. I want i want i want(jumpin on my feet)..
Ultimately.. they agrd and chngd the rear type to Zapper..

One more thing check the Oil level in engine...
"ZAPPERS" are better avoided, i found them tobe having 'Pathetic' grip. I donot know about 'Eurogrip', but Zappers are really poor when it comes to Braking and cornering. That's my say.

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Ohkkk,,,,,,Big Bro !!!

Oil level? how much should it be? Also are the tyres pre inflated to the required air pressure, or we have to go and get them inflated some where??
Any thoughts on real time mileage Of the new P180?
Too much worries, take it easy. Everything will be ready, you just have to take the bike from Showroom and ride it to your home.
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Welcome Ajay Well thats true.. every bike is QC tested & OK & then only get delivered to Showrooms.. you may find OK stickers here n there.. so theres nothing to worry of..
IMO if you did you run-in period average or at good level.. you will definately get mileage unexpectedly .. i mean few guys here get 35 -38-40 and few get 45-48-50 some above 50 to. sometime its based on there calculation error also but you may definately (if maintained) get around 42~45 +- during your run in period but after couple of service you will get quite decent mileage... so no worries...
Also dont hesitate to put up any question on xbhp..there are really very talented & knowledgable guys here.. u will really find pin-point responses from them.. baki Main hun na he he..
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"ZAPPERS" are better avoided, i found them tobe having 'Pathetic' grip. I donot know about 'Eurogrip', but Zappers are really poor when it comes to Braking and cornering. That's my say.
Among all the tyres which come to stock pulsar's Zappers are the best bet mate.. If zappers are worst then did u find eurogrip to be better compared to zapper??
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^Bingo...zapper's are the best stock tires one can get.
Grip is good(even in the rainy season), as i'm not into cornering and any kind of stunt activities i can't find any defects for a normal city ride.
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Among all the tyres which come to stock pulsar's Zappers are the best bet mate.. If zappers are worst then did u find eurogrip to be better compared to zapper??
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^Bingo...zapper's are the best stock tires one can get.
Grip is good(even in the rainy season), as i'm not into cornering and any kind of stunt activities i can't find any defects for a normal city ride.
I did'nt tried 'Eurogrip', but, i said what i have felt in past and experiencing currently. ZAPPERS = WORST GRIP for me. I donot care about what people thinks, i felt them to be poor and that is what i am saying and said.
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"ZAPPERS" are better avoided, i found them tobe having 'Pathetic' grip. I donot know about 'Eurogrip', but Zappers are really poor when it comes to Braking and cornering. That's my say.
Zappers are the best tyres you can get this side of PIRELLI's ,MICHELIN's, FIRESTONE''s and BRIDGESTONE's.
PERIOD.

The ZAPPERS comparitively grip less in wet, but for the dry road they're the best (no wonder why every manufacturer is using them in their premium bikes)

EUROGRIP is a very hard compound tyre and generally manufacturer use them to cut the cost of their bikes or in their cheap bikes.(like BAJAJ did in 220-S and DISCOVER 100 )
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Ajay dont bother dude for lockhrt999.. he definately has omiited something.. it would be just typo error and nothing else..
Its not a typo error...why would somebody typo whole post ?
Bhai mad at me ?

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I cannot stop laughing, You said "Machine will maintain you"
Yes machines maintain you...well pulsar definitely does take care of you

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Dear
Whats the ODO.. 43 kms or 4300 kms or 43000 kms.. sorry for putting here as i got confused.. as how you can go for second service..
ODO = Odometer - where you can read how many kms your bike has ran so far....and its not error its 43 on my ODO

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Cannot see the 'TEASER'?? and What is the story behind that??
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Dera lockhrt999 plz end the suspense soon , as I gonna soon buy a P180...so plz reveal, so that i go and buy without second thought !!
Here I go
With pulsars you don't have to have second thought just trust me

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Sure Himanshu.......but i don't think they will give any kind of discount...... All these big dealers are all the same....NO discount !!

By the way, the bikes cost are already up by Rs.1400, due to excise hike in budget
So, now Pulsar 180 would be costing around Rs.71250 in ghaziabad.... Also No GOODIES too !!
GOODIES Like.... ???
you may get goodies on platina or disco but not on premium bikes like pulsars

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What a coinci.??
How's your bike is going??, any high speed runs you had this days??
I clocked 121kmph for the 1st or maybe 2nd time just a few days ago.
Here I have beaten you man

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Welcome Ajay Well thats true.. every bike is QC tested & OK & then only get delivered to Showrooms.. you may find OK stickers here n there.. so theres nothing to worry of..
IMO if you did you run-in period average or at good level.. you will definately get mileage unexpectedly .. i mean few guys here get 35 -38-40 and few get 45-48-50 some above 50 to. sometime its based on there calculation error also but you may definately (if maintained) get around 42~45 +- during your run in period but after couple of service you will get quite decent mileage... so no worries...
Also dont hesitate to put up any question on xbhp..there are really very talented & knowledgable guys here.. u will really find pin-point responses from them.. baki Main hun na he he..
millage is dependent on your riding style and bikes health
Im getting 53 and it is not calculation error. I measured it from complete emptying tank to coming reserve for 7 ltrs so there isn't a single chance of error

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"ZAPPERS" are better avoided, i found them tobe having 'Pathetic' grip. I donot know about 'Eurogrip', but Zappers are really poor when it comes to Braking and cornering. That's my say.
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I did'nt tried 'Eurogrip', but, i said what i have felt in past and experiencing currently. ZAPPERS = WORST GRIP for me. I donot care about what people thinks, i felt them to be poor and that is what i am saying and said.
Man you are blaming MRF tires for locking of rear drum brakes...if you had seen eurogrip tires you wouldn't have made that statement...these eurogrip tires look more like maruti 800 tires (not kidding) almost square in profile ...can't even think of cornering on it

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Whats the ODO.. 43 kms or 4300 kms or 43000 kms.. sorry for putting here as i got confused.. as how you can go for second service..
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Cannot see the 'TEASER'?? and What is the story behind that??

I am too confused, i think he tried to write 2300KMs.
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Dera lockhrt999 plz end the suspense soon , as I gonna soon buy a P180...so plz reveal, so that i go and buy without second thought !!
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Ajay dont bother dude for lockhrt999.. he definately has omiited something.. it would be just typo error and nothing else..
Ohhh thanks for creating such a hype you won't regret it
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Here comes the full story
I would urge all P180 owners just to go though this post once

I serviced my trinity for 2nd time after clocking 2063 kms on ODO
Below is my experience after 2nd servicing.
I have written it as in before and after sentences.

Before : The post period of first servicing means from 500 to 2000 km
After : The post period of second servicing from 2000 +

Before : I serviced for 1st time my trinity in Probiking. servicing done beside a P220
After : By this time probiking had banished P180s from there area...so I had to drop for normal service center behind that PBK . Done beside a platina


Before : when I serviced for first time despite being serviced in PBK I didn't feel much of the difference...I thought this was the way it's supposed to be .
After : It took me 1500 km to notice me that bike engine is playing rough...PBK guys didn't do there job very well.

Before : when the time I bought my trinity she was almost as less noisy as P135. First servicing made it to roar like a Tiger...Still I thought its normal
After: Bike sounds like it's still in its infancy...It has become very smooth...I can hear engine sound of a Unicorn passing by but can't hear my own engine


Before : Bike used to struggle for petrol at lower RPM on higher gears (you know!!)...Still I thought Its normal
After : Bike is not struggling anymore at lower RPM...I mean I CAN (but I don't) cruise at the speed of 30 on fifth gear without hearing any glitches from engine

Before : At first servicing I poured Motul 3000 15w50 mineral oil which started showing its cool colors after 100 km It was any day better than company filled Castrol. gearplay was very smooth...But that smoothness lasted for next 1000km only...
when I drained oil at second servicing it was more than 1 liter...how the hell that happened ?
After : After second serving I filled Motul 5100 ester 15w50 myself ...Firstly I unscrewed wrong bolt for the drain ... This motul has unlished its greatness immediately...gear play has become extremely smooth which means less wearing out of left shoe.

Before : In cold the idling was 1 k and after riding for quite a bit at high speed idling used to dance between 1.5k n 1.9k...Also many times bike didn't get start at first crank.
After : In cold idling is still at 1K and after riding at 10 k + means where that red LED start blinking idling sits on 1.5 k firmly without moving and bike is starting at first crank.

Before : I think front disk brakes become mature after some time means lever free play area increased a bit...I tighten rear brakes myself because I'm too lazy to push them by the road surface
After : I think response from front disk has increased...SC guys have loosen rear break by one or two rounds...I don't get the intention behind committing such a headous act of bothering poor soul like me ...so I tighten them back

Before : When I bought bike the headlight was pointing at left side a bit and also it used to focus in heaven...god knows what was it after ?
so In first serving it was lowered to focus on thing on the road instead of things in sky.
After : They again set it to focus into the sky....The Sc guys must have misunderstood bajaj slogan 'Bajaj Definitely Ahead' to 'Bajaj Definitely Above'
So I lowered the beam myself but still the high beam is going parallel to road and focusing on just b00bs...Can it ever fall lower than that ?
[/CENTER]
I really want it to fall lower than that so at least I could see the whole curve ( you know what I'm talking about!!!) but unfortunately I have completely unscrewed beam adjustment screw...now I'm using lower beam for THE other purpose...and its still pointing little left
Pulsar : Definitely Male (I know !! I know !!)

Before : The small accident I had shook Tachometer needle to make it -0.4k than real.
After : I told SC guy that it was a manufacturing defect and he changed whole digital console assembly with new without a word for free which generally costs 2300Rs..... AND that's how I have got only 63 on Odometer now. this thing will definitely help me in the future like I will have more time to get the PUC etc..

Before : Due to the kinda lubrication middle stand had from the excess oil spilling from chain it used to vibrate for a second on big bumps at high speed...Top part of left scoop was touching petrol tank...the rubber from left flop had fallen somewhere
After : All three things have taken care of now

Before : I got millage figures like 48 then 47.....46.5 then suddenly it jumped to 53 that's mainly because of a long ride. I use the most accurate method for calculating millage and it is called 'expecting millage method' ...first law of lockhrt999 (my pleasure)Its very simple...suppose you have 100km on ODO and no petrol left so then you have filled 10 liter of petrol than expect the reserve point and drain point lets say that your bike is supposed to give millage of 50 kmpl so you can easily expect your reserve point which is 100 + (10-2) * 50 = 500km...after actual riding if you do get reserve at 500 still wait until the tank gets empty..if tank gets empty on 600 KM that means your calculations are 99.99% accurate.
After : I haven't calculated it yet...according to first law of lockhrt999 I should find reserve point on 106 KM (new ODO) but second law of lockhrt999 conflicts with the first law because second law is concerned about hard ripping done at extreme velocity ....But I will let you know that


How the story can said to be completed without some masala or clay-max?
I will write Clay-max sequel (yeah there's one!!) at evening so keep the hold of your pant by then

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Here comes the full story
I would urge all P180 owners just to go though this post once

I serviced my trinity for 2nd time after clocking 2063 kms on ODO
Below is my experience after 2nd servicing.
I have written it as in before and after sentences.

Before : The post period of first servicing means from 500 to 2000 km
After : The post period of second servicing from 2000 +

Before : I serviced for 1st time my trinity in Probiking. servicing done beside a P220
After : By this time probiking had banished P180s from there area...so I had to drop for normal service center behind that PBK . Done beside a platina


Before : when I serviced for first time despite being serviced in PBK I didn't feel much of the difference...I thought this was the way it's supposed to be .
After : It took me 1500 km to notice me that bike engine is playing rough...PBK guys didn't do there job very well.

Before : when the time I bought my trinity she was almost as less noisy as P135. First servicing made it to roar like a Tiger...Still I thought its normal
After: Bike sounds like it's still in its infancy...It has become very smooth...I can hear engine sound of a Unicorn passing by but can't hear my own engine


Before : Bike used to struggle for petrol at lower RPM on higher gears (you know!!)...Still I thought Its normal
After : Bike is not struggling anymore at lower RPM...I mean I CAN (but I don't) cruise at the speed of 30 on fifth gear without hearing any glitches from engine

Before : At first servicing I poured Motul 3000 15w50 mineral oil which started showing its cool colors after 100 km It was any day better than company filled Castrol. gearplay was very smooth...But that smoothness lasted for next 1000km only...
when I drained oil at second servicing it was more than 1 liter...how the hell that happened ?
After : After second serving I filled Motul 5100 ester 15w50 myself ...Firstly I unscrewed wrong bolt for the drain ... This motul has unlished its greatness immediately...gear play has become extremely smooth which means less wearing out of left shoe.

Before : In cold the idling was 1 k and after riding for quite a bit at high speed idling used to dance between 1.5k n 1.9k...Also many times bike didn't get start at first crank.
After : In cold idling is still at 1K and after riding at 10 k + means where that red LED start blinking idling sits on 1.5 k firmly without moving and bike is starting at first crank.

Before : I think front disk brakes become mature after some time means lever free play area increased a bit...I tighten rear brakes myself because I'm too lazy to push them by the road surface
After : I think response from front disk has increased...SC guys have loosen rear break by one or two rounds...I don't get the intention behind committing such a headous act of bothering poor soul like me ...so I tighten them back

Before : When I bought bike the headlight was pointing at left side a bit and also it used to focus in heaven...god knows what was it after ?
so In first serving it was lowered to focus on thing on the road instead of things in sky.
After : They again set it to focus into the sky....The Sc guys must have misunderstood bajaj slogan 'Bajaj Definitely Ahead' to 'Bajaj Definitely Above'
So I lowered the beam myself but still the high beam is going parallel to road and focusing on just b00bs...Can it ever fall lower than that ?
[/CENTER]
I really want it to fall lower than that so at least I could see the whole curve ( you know what I'm talking about!!!) but unfortunately I have completely unscrewed beam adjustment screw...now I'm using lower beam for THE other purpose...and its still pointing little left
Pulsar : Definitely Male (I know !! I know !!)

Before : The small accident I had shook Tachometer needle to make it -0.4k than real.
After : I told SC guy that it was a manufacturing defect and he changed whole digital console assembly with new without a word for free which generally costs 2300Rs..... AND that's how I have got only 63 on Odometer now. this thing will definitely help me in the future like I will have more time to get the PUC etc..

Before : Due to the kinda lubrication middle stand had from the excess oil spilling from chain it used to vibrate for a second on big bumps at high speed...Top part of left scoop was touching petrol tank...the rubber from left flop had fallen somewhere
After : All three things have taken care of now

Before : I got millage figures like 48 then 47.....46.5 then suddenly it jumped to 53 that's mainly because of a long ride. I use the most accurate method for calculating millage and it is called 'expecting millage method' ...first law of lockhrt999 (my pleasure)Its very simple...suppose you have 100km on ODO and no petrol left so then you have filled 10 liter of petrol than expect the reserve point and drain point lets say that your bike is supposed to give millage of 50 kmpl so you can easily expect your reserve point which is 100 + (10-2) * 50 = 500km...after actual riding if you do get reserve at 500 still wait until the tank gets empty..if tank gets empty on 600 KM that means your calculations are 99.99% accurate.
After : I haven't calculated it yet...according to first law of lockhrt999 I should find reserve point on 106 KM (new ODO) but second law of lockhrt999 conflicts with the first law because second law is concerned about hard ripping done at extreme velocity ....But I will let you know that


How the story can said to be completed without some masala or clay-max?
I will write Clay-max sequel (yeah there's one!!) at evening so keep the hold of your pant by then
Nice scenic movie brother.
About the 'Rubber part near front scoop', my bike doesnot have any of them. Can you post some pictures of it. and How did you got rid of that "Bike behaving at low speeds like there is no petrol in it."

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Here comes the full story
I would urge all P180 owners just to go though this post once

I serviced my trinity for 2nd time after clocking 2063 kms on ODO
Below is my experience after 2nd servicing.
I have written it as in before and after sentences.

Before : The post period of first servicing means from 500 to 2000 km
After : The post period of second servicing from 2000 +

Before : I serviced for 1st time my trinity in Probiking. servicing done beside a P220
After : By this time probiking had banished P180s from there area...so I had to drop for normal service center behind that PBK . Done beside a platina


Before : when I serviced for first time despite being serviced in PBK I didn't feel much of the difference...I thought this was the way it's supposed to be .
After : It took me 1500 km to notice me that bike engine is playing rough...PBK guys didn't do there job very well.

Before : when the time I bought my trinity she was almost as less noisy as P135. First servicing made it to roar like a Tiger...Still I thought its normal
After: Bike sounds like it's still in its infancy...It has become very smooth...I can hear engine sound of a Unicorn passing by but can't hear my own engine


Before : Bike used to struggle for petrol at lower RPM on higher gears (you know!!)...Still I thought Its normal
After : Bike is not struggling anymore at lower RPM...I mean I CAN (but I don't) cruise at the speed of 30 on fifth gear without hearing any glitches from engine

Before : At first servicing I poured Motul 3000 15w50 mineral oil which started showing its cool colors after 100 km It was any day better than company filled Castrol. gearplay was very smooth...But that smoothness lasted for next 1000km only...
when I drained oil at second servicing it was more than 1 liter...how the hell that happened ?
After : After second serving I filled Motul 5100 ester 15w50 myself ...Firstly I unscrewed wrong bolt for the drain ... This motul has unlished its greatness immediately...gear play has become extremely smooth which means less wearing out of left shoe.

Before : In cold the idling was 1 k and after riding for quite a bit at high speed idling used to dance between 1.5k n 1.9k...Also many times bike didn't get start at first crank.
After : In cold idling is still at 1K and after riding at 10 k + means where that red LED start blinking idling sits on 1.5 k firmly without moving and bike is starting at first crank.

Before : I think front disk brakes become mature after some time means lever free play area increased a bit...I tighten rear brakes myself because I'm too lazy to push them by the road surface
After : I think response from front disk has increased...SC guys have loosen rear break by one or two rounds...I don't get the intention behind committing such a headous act of bothering poor soul like me ...so I tighten them back

Before : When I bought bike the headlight was pointing at left side a bit and also it used to focus in heaven...god knows what was it after ?
so In first serving it was lowered to focus on thing on the road instead of things in sky.
After : They again set it to focus into the sky....The Sc guys must have misunderstood bajaj slogan 'Bajaj Definitely Ahead' to 'Bajaj Definitely Above'
So I lowered the beam myself but still the high beam is going parallel to road and focusing on just b00bs...Can it ever fall lower than that ?
[/CENTER]
I really want it to fall lower than that so at least I could see the whole curve ( you know what I'm talking about!!!) but unfortunately I have completely unscrewed beam adjustment screw...now I'm using lower beam for THE other purpose...and its still pointing little left
Pulsar : Definitely Male (I know !! I know !!)

Before : The small accident I had shook Tachometer needle to make it -0.4k than real.
After : I told SC guy that it was a manufacturing defect and he changed whole digital console assembly with new without a word for free which generally costs 2300Rs..... AND that's how I have got only 63 on Odometer now. this thing will definitely help me in the future like I will have more time to get the PUC etc..

Before : Due to the kinda lubrication middle stand had from the excess oil spilling from chain it used to vibrate for a second on big bumps at high speed...Top part of left scoop was touching petrol tank...the rubber from left flop had fallen somewhere
After : All three things have taken care of now

Before : I got millage figures like 48 then 47.....46.5 then suddenly it jumped to 53 that's mainly because of a long ride. I use the most accurate method for calculating millage and it is called 'expecting millage method' ...first law of lockhrt999 (my pleasure)Its very simple...suppose you have 100km on ODO and no petrol left so then you have filled 10 liter of petrol than expect the reserve point and drain point lets say that your bike is supposed to give millage of 50 kmpl so you can easily expect your reserve point which is 100 + (10-2) * 50 = 500km...after actual riding if you do get reserve at 500 still wait until the tank gets empty..if tank gets empty on 600 KM that means your calculations are 99.99% accurate.
After : I haven't calculated it yet...according to first law of lockhrt999 I should find reserve point on 106 KM (new ODO) but second law of lockhrt999 conflicts with the first law because second law is concerned about hard ripping done at extreme velocity ....But I will let you know that


How the story can said to be completed without some masala or clay-max?
I will write Clay-max sequel (yeah there's one!!) at evening so keep the hold of your pant by then
I have two words for you:
1. Awsome.. review..
2. Where.. did you get your servicing done? I am looking for a good enough servicing center from Bajaj since ages ..
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