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  • Originally posted by pravin.murthy View Post
    I agree that ABS as a tech is superiour over non ABS no doubts..... but to claim that you cant live without it on a wet road... or ABS could be a life saver alone is just a myth... It would only work with the road conditions mainly effective on a wet surface and definitely not on muddy and sandy tarmac.. The tyres play a bigger role in all such situations in the overall sense...

    The biggest problem for the Pulsar 200 NS is the TVS Eurogrip tyres!! I dont know whether it would be standard on it... I hope not...

    Anyways the whole debate was for to take things in the right perspective.. dont take it personally as that was not my intention..

    Happy Riding...
    Dude Bajaj will not have anything on their bikes named TVS and for ABS go through videos of various media personals who tested the bikes, Its a life saver in panic situations.
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    • Originally posted by myth2104 View Post
      You took me wrong bro...whatever in hell happens I am going to buy it.
      refer>>>
      You are only one of few ppl in this forum who have got "real" love for this bike. Your effort will be paid off

      Originally posted by myth2104 View Post
      And yes as far as others are concerned...the price shouldn't be a difference maker because anything sub 95k OTR will be an under priced figure.
      Very true.
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      • Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
        You are only one of few ppl in this forum who have got "real" love for this bike. Your effort will be paid off
        Thanks buddy...(iv got my collars high up after reading this )


        Pulsar
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        • Whenever I see the xbhp vid last part where the rider has camera near his knees i get even more hooked to this bike. my next bike for sure
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          • @Enthusiastic...All the best to you too

            And as far as the ABS vs Non-ABS debate is going...id like to say is that ABS (even on RTR) is useful.
            I have test ridden both the ABS and Non-ABS versions because i was about to buy one but dropped the idea once P200NS was unveiled.

            Even on a dry tarmac in case of emergency braking a bike will definitely skid. And if you think that a good tyre does'nt, then you're wrong buddy. Even MRF Zapper (considering it a good tyre) skids when braked hard or even during sudden but mild braking on a slightly gravel/sand covered road.

            And yes as antz.bin (but in case of FI) said...people generally don't give a damn whether an ABS is from any manufacturer until and unless it works good. People will buy the machine even if the ABS is from a chindi-chor chhaap manufacturer if it works fine.
            Last edited by myth2104; 03-13-2012, 01:58 PM.


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            • Originally posted by myth2104;784430
              And yes as antz.bin said...people generally don't give a damn whether [B
              an ABS is from delphi[/B] or any other manufacturer until and unless it works good. People will buy the machine even if the ABS is from a chindi-chor chhaap manufacturer if it works fine.
              abs unit is from Continental AG, Germany.[they are behind chasiss control of bmw bikes]
              fi is from delphi.
              and the question remains why do i race?
              every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

              #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
              #overkill is underrated.
              #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
              #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

              (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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              • Originally posted by saipranav View Post
                One thing i dont understand about pulsar is its inability to shed weight...
                Even after shedding a 'silencer' and becoming leaner it is a heafty 145 kilos...(we dont even know if a saree guard,crash guard and mud guard are included in that 145 kilos)
                with those guards it would be ~150... and all this with a comparatively small 12 litre fuel tank
                may be if you could please take a look at the dimension specs of the bike you might be able to find answers.If you look, you'll be able to see pressed steel perimeter frame and its steel and not aluminium or lighter stuff.now again if you look you can see an increased wheelbase by almost 13mm more than the p220,next 54 mm more in width comped to p220's figure,liquid cooled engine with more weight in form of bigger radiator unit. and bigger disk brake units,beefier swing arm unit and not to mention bigger tyres both at front and back than what is made available on the p220,...ect..ect....and even with all these,p200 is lighter than p220f as well as p220s and even bare basic p180 ug4.and i think that still seem to be a job well done by bajaj.though still i also would like to see a lighter 200 ns (so as to make it more manageable and easy to ride for average joes like me) on its future versions...
                Last edited by Dman; 03-13-2012, 03:31 PM.

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                • Originally posted by myth2104 View Post
                  @Enthusiastic...All the best to you too

                  And as far as the ABS vs Non-ABS debate is going...id like to say is that ABS (even on RTR) is useful.
                  I have test ridden both the ABS and Non-ABS versions because i was about to buy one but dropped the idea once P200NS was unveiled.

                  Even on a dry tarmac in case of emergency braking a bike will definitely skid. And if you think that a good tyre does'nt, then you're wrong buddy. Even MRF Zapper (considering it a good tyre) skids when braked hard or even during sudden but mild braking on a slightly gravel/sand covered road.

                  And yes as antz.bin (but in case of FI) said...people generally don't give a damn whether an ABS is from any manufacturer until and unless it works good. People will buy the machine even if the ABS is from a chindi-chor chhaap manufacturer if it works fine.

                  BMW recently came up with Traction control on their bikes!! why not add it to Pulsar then :-)

                  Its not just about having the tech, its about the actual performance in real world conditions (Indian roads) and to be within the budget...

                  My whole purpose of this was to not deter any potential Pulsar buyers away, just for a tech called ABS!!

                  Im a keen follower of cars too from more than a decade now... Ive known the effect of ABS on cars... and the way its gone on to be standard on the recent cars... But what is a pre requisite for any safety tech to work is for the basics to be right and would only work best in the best of conditions... When I mean basics good tyre grip along with strong brakes and careful use of the controls... when I mean the best of conditions its a perfect pucca thar road and watery surface on the same road only... Any kind of lose surface will only work as good with the tech or without it...

                  My whole debate was to not thrash ABS but to thrash 1 of my friends' claim that above 60 on a wet road we would have a fall without ABS and no fall with ABS!! Its not about the tech in the bike to avoid a fall.... its about the rider and his skills with the bike and being a responsible rider importantly...

                  Anyways I guess we have deviated a lot from the actual subject for this blog... We will stick on to Pulsar 200 NS which is the next gen Pulsar and a good one at that...

                  Happy Riding :-)

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                  • Originally posted by pravin.murthy View Post
                    Anyways I guess we have deviated a lot from the actual subject for this blog... We will stick on to Pulsar 200 NS which is the next gen Pulsar and a good one at that...
                    Welcome back to the topic...P200NS

                    P.S. ABS is useful...and as far as 60+kmph and wet roads is concerned a sudden brake (with no ABS) will mostly ended in the rider having a merry-go-round and a gradual braking might keep him on his feet..err...wheels.
                    So its about how you ride! Techs are add-ons to your riding skills!


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                    • Originally posted by myth2104 View Post
                      Welcome back to the topic...P200NS

                      P.S. ABS is useful...and as far as 60+kmph and wet roads is concerned a sudden brake (with no ABS) will mostly ended in the rider having a merry-go-round and a gradual braking might keep him on his feet..err...wheels.
                      So its about how you ride! Techs are add-ons to your riding skills!
                      For God's sake please read this



                      ABS though a 'nice to have' is not unlivable without. I have confidently ridden in the 130s in a cloudburst. ABS is not a replacement for good tires and good riding technique. RTRs which come with TVS Tires have zilch grip in the wet. ABS there is just a cover-up.
                      Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                      Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                      Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                      • Well thats almost what i said...riding without ABS isnt impossible!
                        Gentle braking will work instead of a sudden one.
                        Last edited by myth2104; 03-13-2012, 05:53 PM.


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                        • Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
                          Whenever I see the xbhp vid last part where the rider has camera near his knees i get even more hooked to this bike. my next bike for sure
                          I see every test drive video (6 of them) every day when I turn on PC..!
                          Really can't sleep without seeing the pics of this beauty.
                          Dying to see it in flesh.
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                          For a true motorcyclist, the straight portions of the roads exist just to take him from one turn to the next!
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                          • Originally posted by myth2104 View Post
                            Well thats almost what i said...riding without ABS isnt impossible!
                            Yes and sorry! Please Tell this to the guy who feels it is impossible to stop a bike from 60 in the rain. (whoever he was)
                            Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                            Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                            Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                            • Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                              Yes and sorry! Please Tell this to the guy who feels it is impossible to stop a bike from 60 in the rain. (whoever he was)

                              actually i mean to say is that you can for sure drive at that speed ( as myself has driven my bike on wet roads at more then 80kmph) and stop your bikes as well with out ABS, But ABS will be helpfull in the case when you have to apply your brakes suddenly at that speed if somebody comes infront of you all of a sudden. In normal conditions i dont think anybody would require a ABS. These technologys are usefull in emergencies only which we reuire rarelly.

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                              • Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                                For God's sake please read this



                                ABS though a 'nice to have' is not unlivable without. I have confidently ridden in the 130s in a cloudburst. ABS is not a replacement for good tires and good riding technique. RTRs which come with TVS Tires have zilch grip in the wet. ABS there is just a cover-up.

                                Well said.... I too have driven on my Karizma (MRF Zappers) innumerable times in pouring rain in Bangalore traffic Hosur Road (known to be a deadly road) at speeds ranging from 40 to 100+ without any issues for years!! So its about the riding tech thats it... as you said TVS tyres on my RTR 160 are sub standard and have very ordinary grip... I dont know how good will ABS work with tyres like this.... Anyways ABS as a tech is good but its not such a big parameter for decision making to buy a bike or not...

                                Happy Riding :-)

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