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I wear joe rocket mesh jacket, gloves, dot certified helmet(either my hjc or mt axis or sparx) every day to my office. Suggest me knee guards which are easy to wear and take off and also small enough to carry.

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Check out Spartan / aspida persious

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Never a waste of space, mate. I crashed my bullet 15 years ago (my first crash) and still have no memory of that day and the 2 days after that I was comatose. Gear was a rarity back then and I happened to NOT be wearing a helmet on that day. Luckily, some guys who I still don't know from Adam, dropped me off at hospital and vanished due to the very valid fear of harassment by our finest khaki wearing sods. All in all it was a very small price to pay for my idiocy of riding gear free.

Tell the stories and don't give up. Who knows we may convert just one jackass without the need for him to survive a crash like me.

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[QUOTE=Bornagainbiker;1181967]Never a waste of space, mate. I crashed my bullet 15 years ago (my first crash) and still have no memory of that day and the 2 days after that I was comatose.

Trust me mate am just happy that scene of atgatt dawned on be before I got this ride or else...

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Been through many falls during long and short rides around city, and wearing "All The Gear All The Time" saved me big time..

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I wear a jacket, riding pants, back protector and gloves always when I ride. Yes helmet too.

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Your jacket does not have a back protector? Also do you wear the pants to work as well?

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The back protector with the jacket was foam based. I bought the ce2 protector from Cramster. I have overpants. During the summers I carry my trousers to work. In the winters I wear the overpants over my trousers.

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No offence, but i guess Ceat took inspiration from him... The roads are filled with idiots ...

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Anyone heard about X Element riding jackets ?

ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time)

Me planning to go ATGATT but "BUDGET ATGATT"

So can you suggest me riding gears.

Helmet - up to 8k
Gloves - upto 3.5-4K
All weather jacket - 6k but negotiable to 8k
Riding boots - 4-5k
Riding pants - not sure about it yet.

I like VFM I bought DUKE over Ninja Cz of VFM

Riding Gear - A common man's outlook

I really want to know the views of the riders of the country regarding ATGATT.

Let's begin, shall we?

India being a country where day-to-day commuting depends on motorcycles​ and a lot of times running in and out of the city for some errands.
Now, I do understand the importance of wearing a helmet. That is compulsory for any rider from my point of view.
But, when it comes to other safety gears like jackets, shoes, gloves etc. I get into the thinking mode.

Why is it so?
Allow me to explain.

So, as far as I can understand (correct me if I am wrong), riding gears like motorcycles originated from the west.
I don't know about the past, but the present scenario(last 15-20 years) in our country is vastly different from theirs.
In the west, motorcycles aren't the lifeline like us. They're primarily a car dominant country where people ride bikes for the sake of interest and fun.

So, what I'm trying to say is, owning a bike in our country can be a luxury to someone ( including a basic 100cc motorcycle.)
If that is a luxury, how can someone even think of having a full riding gear. Since, they aren't that cheap either. A full top to bottom gear would set them back financially by 20000₹ at the very least. It still is a lot of money.
This was a point in terms of affordability.

Let's talk about practicality.

I'll take the case in point of a common man who happens to own a 100-150cc motorcycle. Lives in Tier 2/Tier3 cities or rural areas.
Goes to work, runs around the city for the daily requirements of life etc. Has a running of anywhere from 1-50kms daily.

What I want to ask is, is it really that important to wear riding gear when going for a couple of kilometres say, for purchasing things from the market?

In small towns, wearing a helmet is itself a big thing. People look at you like you're some kind of alien.

Safety is of utmost importance. I understand and fully advocate for it.
But, just for once my mind wanders to the land of reality that is prevalent.

During the summers it's killing to have all of that put on the body in the city. On the highways, it's acceptable though.
Here, people don't wear helmets cause it gets their head "hot". They'd prefer to be hit on their head than sweat inside the lid. I have tried to convince a lot of them, but no results.

What's the middleground, if there's any?


Let me end with letting you guys know about my riding condition.

I don't do much riding as of now. It ranges anywhere between 0-15 kms daily. I'm a government job seeker so, most of the time I'm at home. I don't have any riding gear as of now, to be honest, except the helmet, which I compulsorily wear everytime I ride the bike.
I come from a small town in Bihar. Here, the roads and traffic are not something on which I can cross 40kmph riding sanely, during the daytime.
And, I am not in a condition to afford any gear until I get a job.

That's it.
Let the suggestions begin to pour in.

Thanks,
Ride safe!

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I am in complete agreement with you. It is not financially possible for everyone to buy fancy expensive riding gear.

If a person can afford to buy a Rs 45000 bike, then a Rs 1500 helmet is affordable, considering the necessity of it.

The reason why we advocate ATGATT so strongly is because, we will often see a person on a 1.5 lakh rupee motorcycle, with a 50000 rupee phone and 5000 rupee Nike, wearing only a helmet. In such cases, not wearing proper riding gear is stupidity at the highest level.

There are of course instances when youngsters buy their first bike and are unable to afford proper riding gear in one go. It is understandable that they will buy one thing at a time after saving up some money.

We cannot judge anyone for not wearing proper riding gear. But we can only try convincing people to buy the best that they can afford.

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Completely agree with you on the practicality aspect. The Monk as already answered everything perfectly.
I would just add on to that with simple VFM suggestions that any bike user can opt for in a limited budget.

1. Studds Shifter/Scorpion - Rs 1500-1600. (One needs a good helmet because even a 25 kmph fall at a bad angle can be fatal)
2. A denim jacket/fancy jacket which is thick and can provide some abrasion resistance - Rs 1000-2000 tops.
3. Jeans (full only) - Rs 800-1500
4. Shoes - Rs 1000
5. Basic Probiker/Scoyco gloves (full, no half cuff) - Rs 300-500.

So, one can slowly build up his riding protection slowly and steadily for about Rs 4500-6500 apart from the motorcycle landing cost. These may not be the best or even close to it, but they'll save your behinds to a great extent when it matters. Its all about avoiding/reducing the physical agony and hospital bills for the rider in question.
Ride safe, keep the helmet buckled and always keep the rubber down!

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[MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION] [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] I agree with both of you on building up gears with time.
I saved up some money and got a Studds Shifter helmet, now saving up for gloves.

I have seen probiker gloves. They don't impression me much. I prefer leather ones. The one I am looking for is all weather gloves but, can't seem to find anywhere​ within a budget of ₹2500. I have shortlisted two gloves as of now, Cramster Flux and Royal Enfield Spiti Short gloves. But both are summer gloves only, they will be rendered useless during rains and winter.
Plus the place where I live, the only way to get one is through online mode only. If you guys can enlighten me with better options, that'd be great.