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  • heating issues are there only during run in period and that for first 500 km////...after that its normal.....
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    • Hi guys,

      Me too think there is nothing fishy about high waiting periods.
      Afterall HH would have tested their products very well
      Also it could be kinda marketing ploy too.

      Guys you sure of no ZMR bookings for other colours too... meaning other than white and yellow?
      I think in bangalore they are accepting, but not sure.
      Last week the HH guy dint say anything about stopped bookings
      If needed i can call up the HH guys and get the status

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      • 7 Day - Ownership update on my Karizma ZMR

        I have covered about 1820 Kilometers since i bought the bike in which about <120 kms in City and 1700 Kilometers in Highway.
        No issues what so ever till now. Did a 5 hour - 350 kilometer continuous ride (Bangalore - Chennai) No heating issues at all!!

        Covered almost all terrains in my last trip: National Highways, State Highways, Country Roads, Off-Roading, Gravel , No roads, Just stones - You name it - The Bike proved it worth.
        Also, I did not face any ground clearance issues.

        Handling is top notch and was eating the corners easily even at higher speeds (80-120 Kph) And most importantly Breaking is pure awesome. Front and Rear disk does its job marvelously well.
        The disk braves saved a couple of lives on the highway too

        The bike feels a tad heavy at times, And slight wobbling on heavy cross winds. And with a saddlebag it feels more of it. The lighting is the only factor i consider as below par.
        Could have been better, 35W aint enough. May be OK on the city, But a definite No - No on the highway.

        Gear shift, as always on a New karizma is a bit hard - Still it is hard to get the bike to neutral. Engine is so refined, Butter smooth on the run - You will fall in love with it the moment you turn on the engine.
        The exhaust note is also pretty cool. Pick up is excellent, The bike has enough torque to pull up from as low as 30 kmph on the 5th gear to 122 and above on the same 5th Gear!

        Absolutely No vibrations till 7000 RPM. Engine is butter smooth, Heavenly refined and a pleasure to ride. I hit a top speed of 122 on the Odo at around 8000 RPM, 5th gear.
        The bike starts to vibrate past 7k RPM / 110 on the odo and at top speeds it feels a bit uncomfortable - though we can get used to vibrations at such speeds.

        Did my First service at 490 Kms in Bangalore. Changed the Engine Oil - Hero Honda - 10W30 SVJ - 210 Rs. Checked the filters / adjusted the disk brakes / tightened the chain / lubed it and the servicing is done!
        Was charged 210 Rs. for it. Rode another 1300 Kilometers after that service - as said No issues till now.

        Most funny part in the whole thing is the RTMI: The Real Time Mileage Indicator. It gives a value based on the last 10 seconds riding pattern.
        At time i get 13 Kmpl and at times 196 kmpl when u open the throttle the value decreases and when u close it the value increases.
        As per the manual - It will show any value between: 0.00 Kmpl to 199.99 Kmpl.

        And for the main Positives from the Bike:
        • Handling / Breaking - Clip ons With Front and Rear Disk
        • RVMs - Rear View Mirror that really shows what behind you - Not like other fairing mounted RVMs
        • Console - Crisp, Beautiful Display with clear values. Digital tacho is a welcome move but i would have still preferred a analog one revving till 10000 RPM.
          Neat editable Welcome Message / Fuel Indicator / Trip - Odo Meter.
        • Power Delivery / Engine refinement - The bike feels stable even at high speeds, yet refined - No vibrations, No engine noise - No over heating and stays as it is for a long time.
          Exhaust note is also good, which i personally likes more than the ZMA.
        • Full Fairing - People think it is a Dhoom Bike Few ask why it is heavily modified, few like it - few don't. But it is definitely a good looking one in flesh than at pictures.


        And for the things that could be improved:
        • Headlights - 35W suffices for the city, Not for the Highway / Nigh riding
        • Tyres - The Stock tyres does their job well - No doubt, But not extremely good. I would stick to the stock ones for the first 10000 Kilometers, since most of my touring would be on a Golden Quadrilateral / Highways and not much of Off-roading.
          For other touring purpose i recommend you go for a better set of tyres, as it provides more grip, comfort and a better looking rear
        • Service: Though HH Showrooms take more care / Interest towards ZMR owners - It tends to degrade by time and quality of service will be a question mark, mainly w r t being a FI Bike.
          After the first service, My rear disk's breaking wasn't good enough as they supposedly tightened the brakes!


        Please bear with me for some more days as i haven't yet processed the pics. Will upload the same over the weekend. Thanks for reading.

        Ananth
        Photo Gallery[/B]

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        • Originally posted by Ananth View Post

          And for the main Positives from the Bike:
          • Handling / Breaking - Clip ons With Front and Rear Disk
          • RVMs - Rear View Mirror that really shows what behind you - Not like other fairing mounted RVMs
          • Console - Crisp, Beautiful Display with clear values. Digital tacho is a welcome move but i would have still preferred a analog one revving till 10000 RPM.
            Neat editable Welcome Message / Fuel Indicator / Trip - Odo Meter.
          • Power Delivery / Engine refinement - The bike feels stable even at high speeds, yet refined - No vibrations, No engine noise - No over heating and stays as it is for a long time.
            Exhaust note is also good, which i personally likes more than the ZMA.
          • Full Fairing - People think it is a Dhoom Bike Few ask why it is heavily modified, few like it - few don't. But it is definitely a good looking one in flesh than at pictures.

          And for the things that could be improved:
          • Headlights - 35W suffices for the city, Not for the Highway / Nigh riding
          • Tyres - The Stock tyres does their job well - No doubt, But not extremely good. I would stick to the stock ones for the first 10000 Kilometers, since most of my touring would be on a Golden Quadrilateral / Highways and not much of Off-roading.
            For other touring purpose i recommend you go for a better set of tyres, as it provides more grip, comfort and a better looking rear
          • Service: Though HH Showrooms take more care / Interest towards ZMR owners - It tends to degrade by time and quality of service will be a question mark, mainly w r t being a FI Bike.
            After the first service, My rear disk's breaking wasn't good enough as they supposedly tightened the brakes!

          Please bear with me for some more days as i haven't yet processed the pics. Will upload the same over the weekend. Thanks for reading.

          Ananth

          Good one. Definately will help me in taking decision.
          Dream the impossible because dreams do come true !

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          • Originally posted by Ananth View Post
            I have covered about 1820 Kilometers since i bought the bike in which about <120 kms in City and 1700 Kilometers in Highway.
            No issues what so ever till now. Did a 5 hour - 350 kilometer continuous ride (Bangalore - Chennai) No heating issues at all!!

            Covered almost all terrains in my last trip: National Highways, State Highways, Country Roads, Off-Roading, Gravel , No roads, Just stones - You name it - The Bike proved it worth.
            Also, I did not face any ground clearance issues.

            Handling is top notch and was eating the corners easily even at higher speeds (80-120 Kph) And most importantly Breaking is pure awesome. Front and Rear disk does its job marvelously well.
            The disk braves saved a couple of lives on the highway too

            The bike feels a tad heavy at times, And slight wobbling on heavy cross winds. And with a saddlebag it feels more of it. The lighting is the only factor i consider as below par.
            Could have been better, 35W aint enough. May be OK on the city, But a definite No - No on the highway.

            Gear shift, as always on a New karizma is a bit hard - Still it is hard to get the bike to neutral. Engine is so refined, Butter smooth on the run - You will fall in love with it the moment you turn on the engine.
            The exhaust note is also pretty cool. Pick up is excellent, The bike has enough torque to pull up from as low as 30 kmph on the 5th gear to 122 and above on the same 5th Gear!

            Absolutely No vibrations till 7000 RPM. Engine is butter smooth, Heavenly refined and a pleasure to ride. I hit a top speed of 122 on the Odo at around 8000 RPM, 5th gear.
            The bike starts to vibrate past 7k RPM / 110 on the odo and at top speeds it feels a bit uncomfortable - though we can get used to vibrations at such speeds.

            Did my First service at 490 Kms in Bangalore. Changed the Engine Oil - Hero Honda - 10W30 SVJ - 210 Rs. Checked the filters / adjusted the disk brakes / tightened the chain / lubed it and the servicing is done!
            Was charged 210 Rs. for it. Rode another 1300 Kilometers after that service - as said No issues till now.

            Most funny part in the whole thing is the RTMI: The Real Time Mileage Indicator. It gives a value based on the last 10 seconds riding pattern.
            At time i get 13 Kmpl and at times 196 kmpl when u open the throttle the value decreases and when u close it the value increases.
            As per the manual - It will show any value between: 0.00 Kmpl to 199.99 Kmpl.

            And for the main Positives from the Bike:
            • Handling / Breaking - Clip ons With Front and Rear Disk
            • RVMs - Rear View Mirror that really shows what behind you - Not like other fairing mounted RVMs
            • Console - Crisp, Beautiful Display with clear values. Digital tacho is a welcome move but i would have still preferred a analog one revving till 10000 RPM.
              Neat editable Welcome Message / Fuel Indicator / Trip - Odo Meter.
            • Power Delivery / Engine refinement - The bike feels stable even at high speeds, yet refined - No vibrations, No engine noise - No over heating and stays as it is for a long time.
              Exhaust note is also good, which i personally likes more than the ZMA.
            • Full Fairing - People think it is a Dhoom Bike Few ask why it is heavily modified, few like it - few don't. But it is definitely a good looking one in flesh than at pictures.


            And for the things that could be improved:
            • Headlights - 35W suffices for the city, Not for the Highway / Nigh riding
            • Tyres - The Stock tyres does their job well - No doubt, But not extremely good. I would stick to the stock ones for the first 10000 Kilometers, since most of my touring would be on a Golden Quadrilateral / Highways and not much of Off-roading.
              For other touring purpose i recommend you go for a better set of tyres, as it provides more grip, comfort and a better looking rear
            • Service: Though HH Showrooms take more care / Interest towards ZMR owners - It tends to degrade by time and quality of service will be a question mark, mainly w r t being a FI Bike.
              After the first service, My rear disk's breaking wasn't good enough as they supposedly tightened the brakes!


            Please bear with me for some more days as i haven't yet processed the pics. Will upload the same over the weekend. Thanks for reading.

            Ananth
            Nice review...

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            • Neo hope this helps you along with my reply to ur pm
              M3:15

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              • Superb review Ananth. Yours is the first long ride riview on ZMR. Thanks for it.
                HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                • Originally posted by neo88 View Post
                  Good one. Definately will help me in taking decision.
                  Thanks, Good luck for your new bike

                  Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                  Nice review...
                  Thanks..

                  Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  Superb review Ananth. Yours is the first long ride riview on ZMR. Thanks for it.
                  Thanks Ravi..
                  Photo Gallery[/B]

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                  • Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
                    Neo hope this helps you along with my reply to ur pm

                    yeah sure. thanks
                    Dream the impossible because dreams do come true !

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                    • Ananth: mann, you did what we missed out doing, ie a proper long ride. And I hope with your review it puts to rest the so called issues that are floating around.

                      Anyways, great stuff mate...a suggestion for you:

                      > Change the stock tyres and put some better ones in, like owners are doing here. Go for the m45 or pireli but do away with the stock rubber. Especially since you are doing a bit of highway riding, you must be knowing the advantages of better tyres over the stock ones.

                      Do this and see the ride turn magical!

                      Mods: Lots of newbies are just joining in and posting queries and bloating this so called zmr issue chapter up..do something guys. c'mon.
                      "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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                      • Originally posted by myg124 View Post
                        Ananth: mann, you did what we missed out doing, ie a proper long ride. And I hope with your review it puts to rest the so called issues that are floating around.

                        Anyways, great stuff mate...a suggestion for you:

                        > Change the stock tyres and put some better ones in, like owners are doing here. Go for the m45 or pireli but do away with the stock rubber. Especially since you are doing a bit of highway riding, you must be knowing the advantages of better tyres over the stock ones.

                        Do this and see the ride turn magical!

                        Mods: Lots of newbies are just joining in and posting queries and bloating this so called zmr issue chapter up..do something guys. c'mon.
                        Thanks, The ride was so crucial - It has set up the engine nicely.

                        And I would not be changing the stock tyres so soon, They aint bad - It is fair enough, Will change over to pirelli after 10k Kms or May 2010.

                        Any suggestions for improving headlight? Not a HID, Still thinking on terms of a 35W NightBreaker - H4 Bulb.. Should work on them sometime next month.

                        Pics as promised:













                        Last edited by Ananth; 01-08-2010, 06:11 AM.
                        Photo Gallery[/B]

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                        • Nice pics there Ananth. Use Osram Nightbraker 55/60W for bright illumination of headlight or Philips VisionPlus 55/60W. No mods needed. You will get them in JC road Banglore.
                          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                          • Wonderfull pics Ananth...

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                            • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Nice pics there Ananth. Use Osram Nightbraker 55/60W for bright illumination of headlight or Philips VisionPlus 55/60W. No mods needed. You will get them in JC road Banglore.
                              1. will it impact the housing due to heat ?
                              2. Will it drain the battery ?

                              has any body tried out this on ZMR / ZMA / ZMA-R ?
                              Dream the impossible because dreams do come true !

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                              • it wont drain the batterry..

                                got an Orginal rossi sticker set from uk..used one of the stickers here...


                                Last edited by worrisomebear; 01-08-2010, 12:40 PM.
                                M3:15

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