Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

most of the service centers these days simply want to replace parts and make more money.. that is how it is. many customers without fair knowledge about their vehicles who leave the bike for service end up paying for such unnecessary stuff. brake pads are one of the most common things they simply ask one to change and most customers fall for it, and sometimes rotors too.
heard a situation from one of our members [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] , where he came across a poor chap who had the rotor on his cbr replaced a couple of times during general service because he was told so.

without inspecting the rotor it is difficult to say if it requires replacement (most likely it wont under normal use). as another person explained, if it was ridden with worn out pads, the metal to metal contact would have damaged the rotor.

Other wise, you would mostly just require a good brake service (caliper overhaul, clean the pads with sand paper, new fluid, bleeding out the line). Worse maybe a caliper or master cyl rebuild for which kits are available for a couple hundred bucks.

wear depends on use & misuse.
the brake isn't engaged all the time.. only when you use it.
and scooters are usually ridden slower and braking not as aggressive as say a chum on a 150cc bike , so ideally it should last much longer.. probably the life of the scoot.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

This happened to me too. my scooter had done something like 7500 kms and I had taken it to the Tansi Honda, Hoodi, Bangalore Service Center. There the service engineer came to me and said that the battery looks like it has become weak and needs to be replaced. I told him point blank that do not change the battery, I will get it changed outside. Since that day I have not been asked for battery replacement. Without checking the battery charging or the specific acidity of the battery I was shocked at what I heard. On top of that battery dying at 7500 kms is unheard off.
These authorized Honda Service centers are out to loot their customers. I would not be surprised that they have a quota that out of X customers 75% have to be sold new parts.

This is strange I have already gotten my scooter serviced every 3 months and much before the 2500 kms got completed. And two times the break pads were replaced. So I do not think it is a worn out pad, it looks like bad workmanship and a tendency to loot their customers.



I have heard that Honda Vehicles had a higher operating cost then their competitors. I have now experienced it first hand. And I am thoroughly disappointed with the product, with the after-sales service and with the Honda company. I am just waiting for Yamaha to come out with NMAX. If this scooter continues to drain my wallet like this, then I would definitely shift to a competitor or to E-Scooter from Ather whichever comes first. Two of my family members are going to buy scooters for their family members, I am going to make sure that they do not buy a Honda vehicle.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

ASC service guys like this. They don't do the work properly. After buying bike or scooter ,even if u are going to paid service ,they deal the customer very badly.
Even they create a work sheet. They don't do anything on it. Just wash , change oil , change some unnecessary parts(replace may be only in bill) and return the bike. This is the general procedure they are doing. So better option is servicing with an outside mechanic with good quality spares. Good quality not mean by genuine.
Now a days genuine parts quality is low and cost is a bomb.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

I have recently started experiencing upper shoulder pain when I drive my Activa for more than 15-20 minutes. The pain lingers on after I stop driving the scooter. On the days that I do not drive the scooter this does not occur. Has anyone faced the similar problem?

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

not me, and i haven't heard such complaints (considering the millions of activas out there)
one thing that might cause discomfort is if the cone-set adjustment is too tight.. this puts strain on your arms since you need to put more effort to keep the vehicle pointing in the direction you want it to. i had experienced this pain in the arm due to a very tight cone-set/steering stem nut adjustment.
also make sure the tire pressure is correct.

put the bike up on center stand with the front wheel off the ground, and then push the handle bar to either side.. it should freely move either side with just a firm but gentle push and bounce off wee bit once it hits full lock either side.

and maybe visit a doctor/physiotherapist and get yourself checked up. sometimes it might be as simple as the muscles not being used for a long time and suddenly you give them work.. like in my case now, where i haven't been riding my duke much and mostly using the Dio , but when i take the duke out on a long ride (Say 100+ km) i get a light pain in the thigh on the left leg (the duke having a slightly rear set foot pegs).. its simply due to lack of exercise for those set of muscles.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

[QUOTE=s1d;1379826 i had experienced this pain in the arm due to a very tight cone-set/steering stem nut adjustment.
also make sure the tire pressure is correct.

put the bike up on center stand with the front wheel off the ground, and then push the handle bar to either side.. it should freely move either side with just a firm but gentle push and bounce off wee bit once it hits full lock either side.[/QUOTE]

I tried this the handle moves freely on either side. I went back to the doctor and he told me that on average in a week he see's atleast 2-3 patients who drive scooters who experience this problem. He said something about the very stiff suspension of the activa as well as its tyres being too small for the cause of this. I have driven an Bajaj Eliminator on the same route and I did not face a problem with my shoulders. I am now tyring to hire Yamaha Frazer drive it for a few days on the same route and then observe so as to eliminate that it is not the road or style of driving that is the cause of the problem. Will update this thread later on.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

So I drove a Yamaha R15 v 2.0 for about 90-120 minutes over bad city roads with decent amount of traffic. Did not feel any pain in my upper shoulder. But I do feel pain when I drive my Activa 125. So it definitely is not the posture or the helmet. Though to be sure I will be replacing my helmet with a Carbon Fiber and then seeing what is happening.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

hmm.. maybe its just the ergonomics not suiting you. try adding/removing a bit of seat foam to increase/decrease seat height and see if that helps.
does it happen only with the activa 125, maybe ride another scooter and also see. on a scooter your arms are in a more bent position (L shaped) compared to riding a motorcycle which is a bit more stretched out.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Now Activa 110cc HET 2013 shuts down during running.

I checked Spark in the Plug.

It is not regular, sometimes Red, some times Blue or some times no park on Cranking the engine.

Please help me diagnose.

Should I change armature having light and Excitor could or CDI ?

Could it some wire broken midway ?

Awaiting quick response.

Regards

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

A red spark to no spark means, the entire sparking assembly has to be checked, with the first thing being the ignition coil, the wire from the ignition coil and the spark plug cap. A faulty ignition coil would mean bad spark to no spark at all, and red one like you've mentioned. A faulty CDI too can't be ruled out, but CDIs for the most part are very reliable. But, to start off check all four, spark plug, plug cap, wire and then the ignition coil, and keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Thanks a lot.

Ignition Coil is new with Wire a month ago, after it was found faulty.

How to check a faulty CDI ?

The Armature inside Magnet has not been commented in your post.

What about that?

Coincidentally, I have changed the old Excitor Coil (327 ohms) inside magnet today with a new Swiss make (401 ohms).
This resulted in better spark and performance in my Splendor.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Check spark without the spark plug, directly at the wire by holding it close to a metal surface on the scooter.
does you scooter exhibit starting trouble, especially on cold starts ? does it run ok if ridden for a few minutes i.e. when hot?
if so you might want to check and adjust the valve clearances.
and maybe get the carb cleaned and setup correctly.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

With wire only about 1 inch from body, there is a thin Blue spark which is sometimes Yellow, but if kept 1 cm apart then many yellow sparks.

With plug cap attached there is no spark in my old plug,

With plug cap attached, there is little Yellow spark in a new plug. This spark is too less, if compared to only wire spark with body.

Blue-Yellow to White /Green resistance is 249 ohms in the armature (charging coil) under magnet. White to Green (lighting) is 2 ohms.

It idles if fitted with Zero Resistance plug; shuts down on increasing accelerator.

If starts and allowed to idle, it keeps running with varying rates of idling, not static. Somewhere midway stops by getting slow or if accelerated or choke given.

Carburettor now cleaned and tuned afresh.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Thanks [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] !

Cleaning & retuning of Carburettor with change of Spark Plug to a new one (Bosch) solved all the starting troubles.

Now it idles nicely and cold starts problem have disappeared.

Please suggest if the Coil Plate should be changed as its resistance has dropped to 249 ohms. A new one checked (of Varroc) showed 260 ohms. As it might improve the sparks and subsequently lead to better fuel burning and efficiency.

During latest pollution checks, the idling CO volume %age was only 0.04 against a standard of 3.5, thanks to the tight ring clearance (hand-grinded 0.25 rings USHA make fitted in standard bore).

This has also resulted in HC levels of only 13 ppm against prescribed levels of 4500 ppm.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Pucc 12.11.2019.[ATTACH]252088[/ATTACH]