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    Quote Originally Posted by theironhorse99 View Post
    a few pointers...

    1. STD brakes will last 6k-7k ( both )
    2 ABS BRAKE pads will last 13k-15k (both )
    My front disc pads lasted 7500kms and rear pads 8400kms. I use 70:30 / front : rear braking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid85 View Post
    What is the advantage of petal discs over the normal discs...I have a std version.
    The petal shape helps in cooling the discs faster by trapping and passing air through the caliper slots.
    And not to forget - the drool factor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid85 View Post
    My front disc pads lasted 7500kms and rear pads 8400kms. I use 70:30 / front : rear braking.
    My std`s front & rear pads R going strong even after 9.8k & a friends abs rears gave up in 8k so no set pattern,it is upto the riding style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pruthviraj View Post
    My std`s front & rear pads R going strong even after 9.8k & a friends abs rears gave up in 8k so no set pattern,it is upto the riding style.
    i always changed mine on after every 5000kms on first service(4878kms) and then on second service (9400kms). it can last long 6500 but i always change because generally i ride on highways and feel after 4.5k it gets softer.mine is std and costs only 900(approx)(one side)

    when you guys changed shims. i did after 10k (mine is 2011 lot bike bought and registered on 8th January 2012)

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    Practically speaking, how do you know when exactly the break pad must be changed and whether the faulty breaking is due to the break pads or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonmathews View Post
    Practically speaking, how do you know when exactly the break pad must be changed and whether the faulty breaking is due to the break pads or something else?
    When the pads wear of sound wil come from he pas of it scrubbing against the plate. Another metjod is to inspect the assembly. There is space.for checking the pad life.
    If you are having spongy breaks chances are air in rhe system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonmathews View Post
    Practically speaking, how do you know when exactly the break pad must be changed and whether the faulty breaking is due to the break pads or something else?
    Screeching noise will be there & U can always make visual inspection after certain kms,also one of the signs is the low level of break fluid,if there are no leakages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pruthviraj View Post
    Screeching noise will be there & U can always make visual inspection after certain kms,also one of the signs is the low level of break fluid,if there are no leakages.
    Keeping my brakes tied overnight has helped in improving the performance somewhat...got a chance to open up on the ring road today, and the brakes did perform well.

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    Hello friends and fellow CBR250R owners,
    This is my post in xbhp, even though I have been a member of this community since June 11 and CBR owner since Oct 11. I am a keen biker and enthusiast but have been a dormant member so far.
    But after enduring the Shim Saga (which separated me from my CBR for a fortnight), I mustered enough strength to overcome inertia and put my thoughts on paper.
    So what follows here is a potpourri of my experiences and learnings on and off the road. Pardon me for the length of this post.
    I have been an avid reader of auto magazines since childhood. So when the opportunity presented itself, I opted for Industrial Engineering. I rode TVS Apache RTR 180 throughout college, but something inside me yearned for more. As I was about to finish college, news of a 250cc bike from Honda started coming in. There were scoops and spy pictures all over. When I joined an engine manufacturing firm in Indore, MP; within 3 to 4 months into my job, I had enough savings to pay the down payment, and installments for a bike in 1.25 to 2 lakh range.
    The bikes on the radar were Honda CBR250R and RE 500 Desert Storm which had been recently launched (then). I called up all the dealers, Honda and RE, and requested them for a quotation and expected delivery time. Honda guys were prompt; RE ones were grumpy (no offence but thats the way it was). Delivery for CBR was prompt, RE was six months. So even though my heart was all for the 500, but considering the prevailing conditions, I settled for Honda. And boy! What a revelation it has been since then!

    The Buying Experience
    It was smooth, friendly. I was in @ 10 am; out with bike and paperwork by 1130 am. They had all models (all three colours; both in ABS and Std guise) available. It was incidentally my bday as I took delivery of Silver ABS model on 20th Oct 2011 from Rajpal Honda, Indore, MP. The bike is Oct 11 manufactured too (XXXXXXXXJBXXXXXXX).
    Bike felt peppy, big step up from Apache RTR180, hit the Agra Bombay highway outside Indore, and rode in till 5k in every gear. Funny thing was, in the excitement of riding the new machine; I forgot that CBR is six speed, so it was good 40km before I upshifted. That evening my fb status read, Happiness is in finding that youve another gear left.
    The buying experience is one aspect Indian manufacturers are lacking very much across segments and one that is increasingly affecting the buying decisions; especially in urban areas.

    Initial Run In

    It was run of the mill, mundane, uneventful; riding in the evenings or weekend outings to nearby places; followed the manual, rode under 5k. Not so mundane for the onlookers.
    I dont believe in going into fine details for each and every thing like break-in procedure, shims, etc. Just stay in the limits and youll be fine. You go into details at your own peril, not a lot of people share your concern or enthusiasm, and most of the times youre left to fend for yourself. It doesn't mean I dont care for my bike, just the proper amount. (You may differ. Its your right.)

    Styling and Build Quality

    Styling is subjective affair. I like this VFR derivative.
    As far as build quality goes, I can vouch for it; I rode approximate 2200 km (flat out on one of the best roads and snail pace on potholed roads) over 10 days and the only thing that went loose was a screw that holds the RVM (I should have been more careful, checked it and tightened) and chain. No rattles. I think thats acceptable quality level. Negligible vibrations in everyday riding conditions.

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    A word to owners and prospective buyers: Dont believe in hearsay. If you are interested in buying, leave the laptop/pc/phone, talk to someone who has owned the bike for some time. Ride it for yourself. Theres nothing like the confidence you get from first-hand information and riding first-hand bike.

    Engine and Performance

    I am not a very experienced rider (approx. 40k kms under my belt). Highest I have touched is 130 kmph; but I think it can go further. Ill test that someday. Similarly no figures for run upto 60/100 kmph, but I have won many a traffic light GPs.
    Day to day, enough grunt is available (even with two up), even though I personally feel, under 3k not much is there. 6th exclusively and to some extent 5th gears are meant only for highways, and that too once you are in sweet spot of 6k and above. Highways are effortless. 110/120 kmph cruising is possible even though I remain in 90-110 kmph zone (depends on individual comfort level).

    Ride, Handling and Braking

    ContiGos are the biggest disappointment. I dont know about the ones from 2012 and 2013 models. Grip is abysmal in wet (I have just been able to avoid slip in wet n number of times), acceptable in dry. Rider confidence goes down, especially in wet. Even TVS tyres were much better on my Apache.
    I ride with the rear suspension in stock position and ride is fine, not one of the best. Handling is good. Stable in highways. Once you get a hang of the bike, it is flickable but turning radius is a constraint, especially in tight U-turns in cities.
    Braking is one of the biggest highlight of the bike. ABS equipped one has quite good bite, just application of rear brake suffices most of the time as it automatically actuates front as well (Combined Braking System). ABS is worth the extra 30k. I have had some close shaves which otherwise could have been accidents.
    Both tyres have aged well. I have done about 17k with stock ones and they seem to be good for another 2-3k.

    Fuel Efficiency

    The million dollar question in the end,Kitna deti hai?
    It varies but Ill post my figures. These are approximate as I have never calculated exact fuel consumption figures but they are within an error of 2 kmpl. During run-in, FE was about 27-30 kmpl. On my ride from Indore to Amritsar, I regularly averaged above 40 kmpl. Now I reside in Noida and regularly commute between Noida and Delhi (50 km to and fro everyday) via DND Flyway which is approximate 6 km stretch of 8 lane smooth tarmac and I average above 35 kmpl.
    Things I do: Regular lubrication of chain (biggest contributor for a smooth, noise free and fuel efficient ride) at every 700-1000km (if you are DIY person, buy a paddock and chain lube; if lazy buy a shaft drive bike like VFR), check tyre pressure every week and proper servicing.

    MAINTENANCE HISTORY

    So far I have got serviced my bike at only two ASCs:
    Rajpal Honda, Indore, MP
    Prakash Honda, Noida, UP
    Managers at both the ASCs have been amiable. Both ASCs have separate bays for CBRs and one mechanic trained and dedicated for CBR servicing. No problems so far except the Shim Saga (more on that later.)
    Ill list out the services and costs incurred for reference:

    FIRST SERVICE

    800 km @ Rajpal Honda, Indore, MP on 24 Nov 11
    Cost incurred: [Total: 1103 (incl VAT)]
    Oil Filter: 251
    Engine Oil: 756
    Chain lube: 96

    SECOND SERVICE

    4400 km @ Rajpal Honda, Indore, MP on 10 Apr 12
    Cost incurred: [Total: 2037 (incl VAT)]
    Engine Oil: 756
    Chain lube: 96
    Left Indicator: 193
    Clutch lever: 70
    Left cowl: 922
    (Above three dedicated to the person who dropped it in company parking lot)

    THIRD SERVICE

    8400 km @ Prakash Honda, Noida, UP on 18 Jul 12
    Cost incurred: [Total: 1198+3450 (incl VAT)]
    Oil Filter: 281
    Engine Oil: 749
    Labour: 168
    Brake Pads F/R: 3450 (ABS) (replaced at about 9k)

    FOURTH SERVICE

    13700 km @ Prakash Honda, Noida, UP on 15 Dec 12
    Cost incurred: [Total: 1953 (incl VAT)]
    Air Filter: 300
    Brake lever: 282
    Engine Oil: 752
    Labour: 619

    THE SHIM SAGA

    17350 km @ Prakash Honda, Noida, UP on 31 Mar 13
    Cost incurred: [Total: 3520 (incl VAT)]
    Nut: 4
    Cyl Head Gasket: 93
    Chain set: 1168+122+494
    Head Cover Bolt: 19
    Coolant: 243
    Clutch cable: 156
    Shim: 193*4
    Labour: 449
    Both Camshafts (Inlet and exhaust) and Rocker arms replaced under warranty: 0
    Spark plug cleaning

    It all started with a tik-tik (it got louder by each passing day and quiet loud within 3-4 days) sound from the cylinder head around 15 Mar. Power drop became more and more apparent by each passing day. Went to ASC, opened Cyl Head to find Rollers of Rockers and Camshafts (both intake and exhaust) having scratches on their surface. Both were scuffed. Explanation given was that the pin of the rollers of the rockers was broken. Replaced them under warranty. Checked the valve clearance. The required sizes of shims were not available with the dealer. There are 69 different sizes of shims; each one costs 193 INR, dealers usually dont stock them to reduce inventory but the service levels plunge. The store manager told me that he had placed an order with Honda, itll take about 10 days and that the required shims were not available with any dealer in entire NCR. I was bit baffled but somehow digested it. I would often drop in the showroom to just to listen to how a new CBR250 sounds, lest I forget it! After 5 days, I called my friend in HMSI marketing deptt to inquire about the dispatch status of the order. He told me that shims are imported from Japan and shipped from warehouse (which HMSI shares with Honda Cars) in Greater Noida, and not Gurgaon. He gave me contact no of person in warehouse; I called him up to learn that the order cant be dispatched in spite of item availability because of some pending payment on the part of the dealer. I was enraged. I shot a mail to Honda Customer Care. No response. I was fuming. Now, I started calling dealers in Delhi for the shims and was happy and furious at the same time to find that they were available at Malwa Honda, Okhla Phase 2, Delhi. Went there, got the shims, got the bike. Test rode it and compared with a new bike and it was at par, even better. It was a revelation again! My anger subsided. When confronted with facts, the store manager instantly became friendly; I didn't feel like complaining anymore (that feeling of getting the hell outta here and enjoying some wind in my hair!); left for home with the satisfaction that the bike is running again. Even the mechanic commented, Sir, aisi awaz to nayi gaadi ki bhi nahi hoti! I concur. I remember the sound of a new bike.
    Lesson: Grill the people to get facts as soon as possible or youll have to take a long winding road to get your way.

    FIFTH SERVICE

    Due @ 19700 km/June 15 whichever is earlier
    Engine Oil, Oil Filter, Brake Pads, Brake Oil, and Tyres: to be replaced

    Radiator Fins
    :
    As soon as you get your bike, get a radiator guard installed. Never ever allow the person washing the bike to use pressurized jet to wash the radiator. This will instantly bend the fins and reduce cooling efficiency.

    Appeal to new members:
    Please go through posts 7500, 7600, 8200, 9899 before posting any query. Bible for new CBR owners.

    Appeal to moderators:
    I think its time to edit the first post (where new members land first!) of this ownership thread; instead of specs and pics, I think we need to display the links to above posts (7500, 7600, 8200, 9899) with relevant details to guide them to most relevant sections first rather than discussing same topic over and over again. I have been following this thread since inception, and of late, it is increasingly becoming repetitive and stale (I hope Im not going down the same lane with this).

    Epilogue: Planning for Leh Ladakh on CBR sometime this or the next year. Will post again after accomplishing that!
    Last edited by harsimranjitsidhu661; 07-30-2013 at 02:07 PM.
    CBR250R Bible: 7500, 7600, 8200 and 9899
    My CBR experience so far : I II

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    ASC service manager agree to replace my meter under warranty after i was able to capture a video of the flickering ,Unfortunately no stock of std version meter in Mysore :/

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