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  • #77
    Originally posted by simba_smiles View Post
    Hi Zimbly...

    Nice and comprehensive first-impression review here. Glad to hear that the Ninja doesn't give you much of a chance to complain. Things like a muddy rear in rains, etc, aren't really issues at all

    I'm really reassured hearing that the brakes are satisfactory. There was so much talk of the poor brakes on the 2011 version, and a whole lot of friends who own the earlier Ninja 650R, all have upgraded the pads and lines. So was pretty skeptical of how these would be. Good to hear that they've been behaving well.

    As for after-market add-ons...get the frame sliders ASAP. They should logically be your 1st fitments, as you'll never forgive yourself if the bike unfortunately takes a topple, even at stand-still, and your fairings get damaged in the process. Am still waiting for my bike (have been waiting for 14 months now, but that's another story for another day), but have already procured the R&G sliders from PRS. If you plan on getting them from PRS, do that soon as I heard they're rapidly running out of stock!

    Finally, a huge congratulations on this amazing motorcycle. One of the most sensible big bikes to buy in our country today!

    .....Simba
    Hey Simba, thanks. As for the frame sliders, a lot of members on the forum have advised me against it. Thinking about it, it makes sense. The frame sliders are bolted on to the frame. Given that the roads are akin to the lunar surfaces in most parts of the country, a fall with or without frame sliders is definately going to scratch the fairing. But during that fall should the bike go through a crater, it is most probably going to dent/ bend the frame. Repairing that is definately going to be a lot more expensive.
    On the other hand frame sliders would help at parking lots where our over enthu janta tend to...... for lack of a better word.... fondle these bikes. Still taking a call on whether or not to install them.


    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Don't open throttle like you do on the Fiero...you will do a wheelie....be gentle with throttle .Change engine oil along with oil filter at first 250~350 kms, then at 1,000 Kms to flush out the initial debris that will accumulate during running in...This is important to keep the engine in good condition..later on change oil as per SVC. If you use Mineral change at 1,500~2,000 Kms, Semisynth at 2,500~3,500Kms, and Fully Synth 3,500 ~ 4,500 kms....Go for Fully Synth after consulting SVC Service Head. Do mandatory Servicing as recommended in Owner's manual.
    Good Luck
    Ride Safe
    Hey psr the wheelie bit was amusing. @bprags : psr does have a point.
    As for Oil change, they are using Mineral oil (10W40) and service manual recommended change is once every 12000kms. The service rep advised me that they would be doing it every 6000kms(or 6 months), which incidentally is the maintenance interval.

    Originally posted by Varun.Lamba View Post
    Hi guys,


    Well I was wondering why am I not getting anymore email notifications for the threads I subscribed to !! Then came in here to check whats going on and why people are hibernating (which I was sure could not be the case :P ) Ahaa... and then to my pleasant surprise I saw this new thread ! Two thumbs up for this great initiative. I am hooked to it now.


    First of all, a big hearty congratulations to Zimbly and bprags (and other owners if I missed out any) Wish you guys all the luck ahead..


    As for an update from my side.. Still 2 months till I get back home and take delivery of my beast waiting eagerly in store!


    In the meanwhile I have started preparing/shopping for a warm welcome for my N650.. Since I already have the basics of personal riding gear, here is the list dedicated to my N650:


    Items already ordered (expected delivery next week):
    1.) Oxford Sport Saddlebags
    2.) Hein Gericke Dry bag 40L
    3.) Oxford Tankpad- Arachnid
    4.) Hein Gericke "Team 70" Bike cover
    5.) Some lamination pouches (20X30cm)
    6.) Rim stripes
    7.) Oxford Screamer Disc lock

    Considering a paddock stand and frame sliders but not till I reach home.
    Hey Varun, thanks. Neat shopping list, just a query, laminating pouches - what do you intend to do with them. your next 2 months are going to be antagonizingly slow. All the best.


    Originally posted by bprags View Post
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    Rode her all the way from Mysore, I had to take a lengthy route due to the Cauvery issue. But the route was scenic and beautiful, the Ninja kept everyone on the road hooked on to her, she is such a beauty, from front most think it is a Fazer, but as soon as they see her from side on, boy, you should see their expressions. Maybe a 100 villagers told me the headlight is on, I kept nodding my head, whenever they informed me about it.

    Route

    Mysore -> KR Nagar -> Chennraypatna -> Kunigal -> Nelmangala -> BLR

    Total distance around 250+ kms.

    I will post more in the ownership thread.

    The headlights are pathetic, need to correct the alignment. FE is promising 20+.
    Hey bprags... nice ride!!! headlight alignment is definately needed. My low beam was almost like a high beam till i rectified it. Post rectification, its fine. Though i agree, better lights would help. Awaiting your ownership thread. Safe riding.

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    • #78
      Originally posted by santoosh View Post
      Congratulations sir ..
      20+ is neat.
      Do run through all the gears even in city and see what speeds it feels comfortable ..

      N beware of the gc .. esp in blr roads :-)

      Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
      I already scraped the bottom twice, the first time, I was a little fast, the second time I scraped, I was shocked as I was very careful.


      Originally posted by Varun.Lamba View Post
      She looks yummy
      Thanks

      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
      congrats.....
      Thanks prince.

      Originally posted by zimbly View Post
      Hey Simba, thanks. As for the frame sliders, a lot of members on the forum have advised me against it. Thinking about it, it makes sense. The frame sliders are bolted on to the frame. Given that the roads are akin to the lunar surfaces in most parts of the country, a fall with or without frame sliders is definately going to scratch the fairing. But during that fall should the bike go through a crater, it is most probably going to dent/ bend the frame. Repairing that is definately going to be a lot more expensive.
      On the other hand frame sliders would help at parking lots where our over enthu janta tend to...... for lack of a better word.... fondle these bikes. Still taking a call on whether or not to install them.




      Hey psr the wheelie bit was amusing. @bprags : psr does have a point.
      As for Oil change, they are using Mineral oil (10W40) and service manual recommended change is once every 12000kms. The service rep advised me that they would be doing it every 6000kms(or 6 months), which incidentally is the maintenance interval.



      Hey Varun, thanks. Neat shopping list, just a query, laminating pouches - what do you intend to do with them. your next 2 months are going to be antagonizingly slow. All the best.




      Hey bprags... nice ride!!! headlight alignment is definately needed. My low beam was almost like a high beam till i rectified it. Post rectification, its fine. Though i agree, better lights would help. Awaiting your ownership thread. Safe riding.
      I am surprised about the 12K kms mentioned in your manual, the manual I received says 6000 kms only, I will post a pic of it tonight.

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      • #79
        @bprags --Thats one of the reason why the Neenja Was Out of Contention for me last year ,No brand wars Pls :-)
        Low ground clearance , and with Pillion Its even bad . Just Sits on the Speed breakers.
        And Heating in the city is a lot lot more On the 2011 version.
        Id like to see the 2012 version in flesh once.

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        • #80
          Originally posted by bprags View Post
          I am surprised about the 12K kms mentioned in your manual, the manual I received says 6000 kms only, I will post a pic of it tonight.
          The tabulated section of the manual shows an oil change every alternate Servicing. I would equate that to 12000kms or once a year. I will confirm once again once i take a look at the manual, presently out of town.

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          • #81
            Originally posted by zimbly View Post
            Hmmm... Interesting question. Well i am 6'2", would want to say well built, but the truth is that my build is, ahem..... healthy. When i picked up the FZ it was one of the more bulky bikes which offered oodles of class and handling was in another league altogether. I would have hated to have a bike with a diminutive size which would lend me the"bear on a bicycle in a circus" tag. Seat comfort and seat height was another factor that played a role in the decision. The N650 ticked all the boxes on this front and it had performance to boot. i particularly liked the riding position, which is fairly upright, with the option to lean and crouch as required. It offered me the best of both worlds, cruising comfortably, while letting me unleash the horses on demand.
            Having ridden her for 1500kms on highways and in the city, one word to describe her - versatile. She is at ease in all the roles.
            As for the quarter litres, i did consider the CBR 250. But then i am 34 and i would be keeping the bike for atleast 5 years. I would be running 40 by the time i get the next bike. So if i had bought the 650 at that stage then i may not have been able to enjoy it to its full potential. Does that make sense??? well not really, even i am not conviced with that answer. honestly i was trying to find a logical explanation as to why i jumped from the FZ to the 650, would the heart ruling the head be an apt explanation

            Kawasaki, aka Bajaj have done a fabulous job with the pricing of this bike. Its VFM given its displacement, power, ridability and a 0-100 in 4.5secs. As for the tangible benefits of 400cc and 1.5l extra is the extra wide smile which seems to have become a permanent feature.
            An interesting answer too, if I may say so.

            About the only reason that I myself did not book the bike was because of the full fairing. I am completely fed up with fully faired bikes being the owner of a CBR 250 for the past year and a half. I like to perform maintenance jobs myself. Over the years of owning a succession of bikes, I have always been on most friendly terms with my chosen ASCs who, after seeing the quality of my work, have had no hesitation in stamping the service coupons.The CBR does not whet my appetite for hands-on work. The N650 is most attractive but its appeal to me, personally, pales in comparison to the T Bonneville.

            Reading your answers and comments created a dilemma - go for the N now or wait for the T sometime around 2014. Then,my wife allowed me to gift myself a Bonnie when I hang up the uniform in 2014 so I guess the decision is pretty made up. Yet, will watch this space for more on the N650.
            Last edited by icemang; 10-04-2012, 02:13 PM. Reason: Amendments

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            • #82
              super congrats on a very ideal ride, money well spent ride safe and enjoy.

              rim tapes would look great and so would a tank pad. but go for official accessories. i dont know if a tail tidy is avail for the bike in india.you can check it out.
              M3:15

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              • #83
                Originally posted by zimbly View Post
                Hey Simba, thanks. As for the frame sliders, a lot of members on the forum have advised me against it. Thinking about it, it makes sense. The frame sliders are bolted on to the frame. Given that the roads are akin to the lunar surfaces in most parts of the country, a fall with or without frame sliders is definately going to scratch the fairing. But during that fall should the bike go through a crater, it is most probably going to dent/ bend the frame. Repairing that is definately going to be a lot more expensive.
                On the other hand frame sliders would help at parking lots where our over enthu janta tend to...... for lack of a better word.... fondle these bikes. Still taking a call on whether or not to install them.
                I have personally seen a '11 N650 have a fall at low speed and because of the frame slider (R&G) the complete fairing of the bike got saved. There was no damages to the fairing though the foot peg assembly broke completely as the bike was getting ridden in extreme off road conditions. Scratches were only present on the frame sliders, rear grab rail and bar ends.

                Although, it depends on case by case and frame slider cannot guarantee it will save the complete fairing but it will help you protect the fairing to some extent when you have a fall for silly reasons like while taking a U-turn or if you loose your balance suddenly.

                Below pictures might help you further.. Have a look




                Attached Files
                My Ninja 650 Thread:
                A Green Affair! Starring Kawasaki Ninja 650

                My Travelogues:
                LOST in Sikkim
                Ride to Mt. Abu - An oasis in the desert

                Ladakh & Lahaul Valley 2011 - A journey to heaven & back
                Toranmal - Beautiful yet hidden
                Khushboo Gujarat Ki
                Sands of Time - Rajasthan

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                • #84
                  Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                  @bprags --Thats one of the reason why the Neenja Was Out of Contention for me last year ,No brand wars Pls :-)
                  Low ground clearance , and with Pillion Its even bad . Just Sits on the Speed breakers.
                  And Heating in the city is a lot lot more On the 2011 version.
                  Id like to see the 2012 version in flesh once.

                  Santa
                  I still recall your P180 V1 top speed thread . Personally speaking we are all past that brand wars age.

                  As you mentioned the GC is def an issue. Will an after market exhaust help?

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                  • #85
                    Originally posted by zimbly View Post
                    Hey Varun, thanks. Neat shopping list, just a query, laminating pouches - what do you intend to do with them. your next 2 months are going to be antagonizingly slow. All the best.
                    You bet ! I have been going through countless number of sleepless nights.. I am living in 'slow motion'
                    Regarding the Lamination pouches.. I experienced scratches being built up over a period of time on the side of the tank on my CBR where my knee guards touch.. So just to be on the safer side I will keep these handy incase I need to install them. Also I intend to tour around using saddle bags I will see if its required to be modified and stuck onto the tail sides !

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                    • #86
                      Took the bike for a ride to bhakra dam today. It was a good comfortable drive.Total distance covered 160 km. The odometer reads 1350 km now. waiting to cross the 1600 km mark.
                      The bike has presence and policemen at security checks on the way to dam did ask about the price and stuff. One of the guards asked rightfully " Paanch lakh me kya khas hai?" Had to tell him about big engine capacity and acceleration. But sometimes I do wonder if I would be better off with a harley or a just my older thunderbird. Slow speed driving on the ninja is no fun. And when you accelerate hard it hits 120 pretty soon and that is dangerous territory.So the past few days I have been split between slow 80-90 kph cruises and short bursts to 120 while overtaking four wheelers.Have decided to change the windscreen setting for maximum height and wind protection.Rest the whole bike feels solid and well built. Drove through a treacherous stretch of next to no road today. I was feeling sorry for the ninja for 10 odd kms. But overall it faired quite well. So I guess if it can go through that particular stretch then ground clearance should not be much of an issue on highways. The ride is quite stiff and you can feel the bumps hard . I did loose my line a few times through the mountain roads and had to brake mid corner. Unlike another member here I could not utilize available power of the ninja at the twistys . Had to ride smooth and slow just to be safe. There is just a confidence level about on tap power. Rest I don't think its much different from riding an FZ or any 200 cc bike.Click image for larger version

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                      • #87
                        @amar :- Nice report buddy. For me the biggest problem is when I shift back to my Fiero after riding the Ninja .

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                        • #88
                          Originally posted by bprags View Post
                          @amar :- Nice report buddy. For me the biggest problem is when I shift back to my Fiero after riding the Ninja .
                          Hey bprags firstly congrats! and i know what you are talking about ..same problem when i ride my CBZ feel like i have forgotten and am on a luna!

                          @ Amar congrats.

                          @ Zimbly ..whoohoo run in done! open him up on the road once you back .. I am still at 600 km coming up for service.

                          Update: I have been riding since i got the "Arrow" last Tuesday from Mangalore 400 km. The ride was a blast was raining so first ride was a wet one but the twisties were great and one can shift the weight around a lot and lean in as much as i dared really holds the line. Gave in to temptation and opened up once shot straight to 158 kn/hr! had to throttle down and still had a gear to go! Really enjoying this after having a wish to own a bike like this for a while.

                          Also getting the R&G no cuts today and will have them installed weekend..that's it from me for now. Cheers
                          Last edited by vectorz; 10-11-2012, 01:27 PM.

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                          • #89
                            My Ninja has done 660 Kms till date. I rode her in the traffic for around 30 kms, the heat is definitely a problem in traffic. I try to switch it off as much as possible in traffic, she heats up very quickly. I also had a chance to meet another rider on a Baby Ninja 250, I rode her for a few kms, I have to admit I have never ridden a bike with such sharp and confidence inspiring brakes, I still cannot believe that the 250 brakes are so good. The stability under braking on the 250 is some thing to be experienced, on the other hand the 650's brakes just dont have any feel at all. The ride quality of the 650 is way way better than the 250 no comparisons there. The best thing about the 650 is power on tap, the rider never feels out of power at least till 4000 rpm [thats the max I have ridden till date].

                            Guys I need to know a few details

                            1) Since I have never taken her above 4000 rpm, I dunno how she feels in the higher rpm's, does she have a burst of power in the higher rpms or it is linear acceleration? If yes than at what rpm?

                            2) I badly need a paddock stand, I cannot do any kind of maintenance work at present like chain cleaning etc. From where can I get the paddock stand? Any one from BLR planning to buy, we can try to workout a deal.

                            3) My bike is extremely smooth till 4K rpm, after that I feel vibes at the foot pegs. Any solution or anyone else exp the same?

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                            • #90
                              2012 Kawasaki Ninja 650 road test - Overdrive

                              Took the bike for a long trip to manali with wifey. Did not carry any luggage with me(booked a taxi for the five day trip). All in all covered 300 km a day both ways.
                              The ninja rides well but it does not like any bad or imperfect roads. I could feel my head jarring in the helmet over bad stretches. Nothing unbearable though. Bikes like these are probably meant to ride and enjoy solo; with a pillion rider there is a limit to how much you can brake or accelerate without risking the person falling off!
                              My wife liked the thunderbird’s backseat better because of the sitting position and the available backrest. Here she finds the foot rest for pillion a bit higher than required. The seat itself is better cushioned though according to her.
                              We generally covered 70-80 kms at a stretch without the need to stop over.Overtaking on the bike is a breeze. But the bike is a bit heavy otherwise and you don’t feel like ‘playing’ with it. Ride it hard but with respect – that’s my motto.
                              I request kawasaki to please provide a light switch kill . I understand its a safety measure but people waving frantically at you and you acknowledging them at 80kph does not aid safety.
                              Also will get my horn changed. A few times the bystanders on road did not notice my horn and that was a safety concern. Rest you do get people coming up for photographs and questions about price and mileage. A little unwanted attention can also come your way. A group of boys in an overloaded car tried to stop me forcibly on my way back and had to avoid them somehow. Any other bike and no crazyperson would have bothered me..
                              Last edited by amar_bk; 10-16-2012, 11:37 AM.

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