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  • Greymatter
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Hi, I am posting this on behalf of my friend who took delivery of his ZMR last month :-

    1. Is it harmful to fill in slightly thicker oil then recommended in the front forks to make it stiffer?

    2. Can he start using Valvoline Champ 4T 20W40 Semi Synth oil from 1K onwards?

    3. During 1st servicing, the mech told him that one needs to pour 1.2 lt oil after complete dismantle or else 0.9 so will there be any problem if my friend fill 1 lt oil?

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by Shakthi Vijay Sha View Post
    yes sir, you're correct..Actually i own a zmr 2014 the mechanic who adjusted the tappet noise simply did that with his hands by just looking above and feeling the gap.. he said he adjusted the gap to 0.1mm.. but still I'm hearing the tappet noise when travelling at 60's.. and slight loss of power i.e pickup then the time of buying..
    Guess you have no other option that to set it right by yourself, for assistance you can use the DIY guide in my signature. But my personal opinion is that you wont notice much of a difference in Karizma's if the tappet is in fact set loose, only noticeable issue would be the weird clatter.

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  • Shakthi Vijay Sha
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Oh, same pinch. After replacing the cylinder kit under warranty they did the same, I didn't bother going back as Sarin bro, Psr sir and Aneesh bro had already helped me do it once, so did it on my own. Karizma's and Pulsars are easiest as they have dedicated tappet covers for convenience.

    The SVC people go by feel, they don't use a feeler gauge. So do think twice before getting it done, unless you can take your own feeler gauge and approach them and get it done in front of you, as most SVC's dont even have one.

    Sent from my MI 3W using xBhp Connect mobile app
    yes sir, you're correct..Actually i own a zmr 2014 the mechanic who adjusted the tappet noise simply did that with his hands by just looking above and feeling the gap.. he said he adjusted the gap to 0.1mm.. but still I'm hearing the tappet noise when travelling at 60's.. and slight loss of power i.e pickup then the time of buying..

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    That's what they did! It was set loose from Day 1 and is rattling. The SVC asked him to come back after 10 days or so.
    Oh, same pinch. After replacing the cylinder kit under warranty they did the same, I didn't bother going back as Sarin bro, Psr sir and Aneesh bro had already helped me do it once, so did it on my own. Karizma's and Pulsars are easiest as they have dedicated tappet covers for convenience.

    The SVC people go by feel, they don't use a feeler gauge. So do think twice before getting it done, unless you can take your own feeler gauge and approach them and get it done in front of you, as most SVC's dont even have one.

    Sent from my MI 3W using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • Divya Sharan
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Why bother, they won't do it right anyways. Better keep riding and later on do it yourself when it starts to clatter.

    And I've heard from SVC that the tappets are initially set loose, tough I'm yet to hear a new bike making tappet noise.
    That's what they did! It was set loose from Day 1 and is rattling. The SVC asked him to come back after 10 days or so.

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  • dhaval826
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Thank u guys.

    Sent from my GT-I9500 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
    Completed 300 kms of run-in. Should I ask the ASC guy to correct the tappets now? Also is theoil change compulsory?

    Sent from my One Plus One!!!
    Why bother, they won't do it right anyways. Better keep riding and later on do it yourself when it starts to clatter.

    And I've heard from SVC that the tappets are initially set loose, tough I'm yet to hear a new bike making tappet noise.

    Sent from my MI 3W using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • Divya Sharan
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
    Completed 300 kms of run-in. Should I ask the ASC guy to correct the tappets now? Also is theoil change compulsory?

    Sent from my One Plus One!!!
    Yes. Absolutely. Stress on tappet adjustment with a feeler gauge.


    Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.

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  • srikanth kvnap
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Completed 300 kms of run-in. Should I ask the ASC guy to correct the tappets now? Also is theoil change compulsory?

    Sent from my One Plus One!!!

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  • Jagadish Ramu
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Since I had not heard the Creeking noise ,am unable to even guess what it could be. The head assembly which contains the Valves is the same as old,and so is the Rocker head part, common to both Old and New ZMA-R, and ZMR
    Senior,

    I got head assembly, cam shaft and roker arm replaced.
    But still I am not satisfied. It preform well in downhill surface and disaster in uphill roads.
    Also I doubt that front sprocket has issue.

    Is any senior guys help me from Bangalore. I could bring my bike for inspection on weekend days.
    I tried to drag the bike at 50kmph in second gear but it struggled a lot anything above 40kmph and engine tone become very harsh after this incident the engine tone changed little and vibes at neutral.

    I feel bike sluggish no feel of power and torque that it has on paper.
    Other end svc blame on hero on design and modification. But I notice a strange thing. Bike feel smooth when when air filter box make loosen and let breath extra.

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
    Open the chain covers and front sprocket
    Remove the chain
    Clean with diesel
    Spray wd40 on the chain links
    clean both sprockets with diesel
    and put back the chain
    grease it

    also i would suggest you to keep the oil drain interval at 1000 kms
    I being cheap would just pressure wash it and then go with SAE grade oil.

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    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
    but by doing this, aren't we going to lose top end? of course, the acceleration would be far better
    More usable rev range and torque, top end would be more or less the same, only thing being you would be doing it at a higher RPM.

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    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Mr.Arun aka ACS had done it, but I don't think he had touched the rev limiter RPM on 5th
    He had reverted back to stock after a spirited hill run. Assuming that the gun metal bushes gave away(P220 17mm, ZMA 15mm gudgeon eye), causing play leading to his cylinder getting scarred.

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  • worrisomebear
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by dhaval826 View Post
    Sorry to change the topic. But can some help me with the chain cleaning procedure. My bike is 3 months old and has run 1378kms. My first service is done.I also went on a few long rides and i think now i shud get the chains cleaned. Anything and everything that u can share abt chain cleaning. Thank u

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    Open the chain covers and front sprocket
    Remove the chain
    Clean with diesel
    Spray wd40 on the chain links
    clean both sprockets with diesel
    and put back the chain
    grease it
    Use 2T oil to lubricate as well

    also i would suggest you to keep the engine oil drain interval at 1000 kms
    Last edited by worrisomebear; 03-02-2015, 03:16 PM.

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  • dhaval826
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Sorry to change the topic. But can some help me with the chain cleaning procedure. My bike is 3 months old and has run 1378kms. My first service is done.I also went on a few long rides and i think now i shud get the chains cleaned. Anything and everything that u can share abt chain cleaning. Thank u

    Sent from my GT-I9500 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • psr
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
    but by doing this, aren't we going to lose top end? of course, the acceleration would be far better
    Yes...The final drive ratio in chain and sprocket is being reduced.....Or else go for overbore version...from CRFs Only with Weisco piston kit..CRF's Only - Your source for Honda CRF information, performance prodcuts, parts, and accessories better still get the NEW ZMA/ZMR piston with high compression which will give you approximately 1 bhp bump.

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  • rreneav1987
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    Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Otherwise going 3 tooth more on rear sprocket or 1 tooth less on front sprocket will enable you to touch 9 K Rpm on 5th.
    but by doing this, aren't we going to lose top end? of course, the acceleration would be far better

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