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  • bobisbacktorock
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    I was returning home from a long extreme monsoon trip. Had ridden over 2300 kms in torrential rains and super bad roads covering Hyderbad - Goa - Amoli - Satara - Mahabaleshwar - Pune - Rajmachi - lonavala - Khandala. On the way back to hyderabad from Pune, after covering 150 kms, my drive chain snapped while I was cruising at 100 kmph. The chain immediately locked the rear wheel and I went 150 meters sliding (fishtailing the rear wheel). I could manage to contersteer the slide enough to not crash. the bike came to a halt after 150 meters of sliding.

    The damages were catastrophic. I had to get the bike toed on two different trolleys (chota haathi type / Ashok Leyland).

    PS - The chain had done 24000 kms before this incident. The chain was making horrible noises in the last 200 kms before the mishap.

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    I started sliding before that board on the left.
    Last edited by bobisbacktorock; 09-05-2019, 09:06 AM.

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  • truelypulsarian
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    Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    The bike was inspected by the service engineer regarding the noise from the engine according to him the culprit was the clutch bell so changed it under warrenty and also the service center guys adjusted the tappets but the sound didnt vanished completly the frequency has reduced thats it. There is no
    Permanent solution for this as many Fz owners reported the same.

    Vanp & #bpk how are your bikes doing??
    Last edited by truelypulsarian; 08-18-2019, 04:18 PM.

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  • saikatbyte
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by djmacpro View Post
    hello my service is due and my KMs will be exceeding the limit so want to disconnect the odometer in my bike can some one help me do that so that i can stop my odo reading from exceeding further so that the SVC dont create any issue while giving bike for servicing.
    You can exceed 200-250km extra, nothing will happen, just tell the service guy you are busy with works. But you should not exceed more than that. It may affect engine as engine oil (I am thinking you are filling engine oil from the service center only) gets bad & turn into muck/muddy if not changed in time. Other than that every parts need to be checked at a specific time of interval, avoiding which may lead to sudden breakdown in the middle of nowhere.

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    Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post
    The stock front 100/80 tyre has a height of 80mm whereas the 110/70 tyre has a height of 77mm, the stock tyre is slightly taller the difference is around 3.9% which won't affect much but you will get slight speedometer error. Your actual speed will be a bit lower than what is displayed on your speedometer. The main concern is that up sizing or downsizing the front tyre may affect the handling of your motorcycle so its safe to stick to the stock profile for the front tyre.

    Here's a chart showing how much will be the difference in speed.
    FZ-S has speedo error around 7-8%, like 108 in speedo is actually 100 in GPS (or in Google map).
    Also the 100/80-17 stock tyre rim allow the 110/70-17 wider tyre to seat a little curvy as duke 200 rim is wider than fz-s rim. So, the tyre will shape a little round than oval at bottom. The Eclipse minor radius will increase, so 77 (110*70%) will not be 77 in actual, may be 80 or 82, or 85. So, the tyre may look a tad little taller helping the speedo error to be reduced a little margin say 5%. Which is a good actually. And, 110/70 tyre always has better tyre rating than 100/80 tyre (considering same brand and model), so 110/70 R17 is heavy at front but will allow more lean angle than before.

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  • djmacpro
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    hello my service is due and my KMs will be exceeding the limit so want to disconnect the odometer in my bike can some one help me do that so that i can stop my odo reading from exceeding further so that the SVC dont create any issue while giving bike for servicing.

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  • Sumazure
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post
    The stock front 100/80 tyre has a height of 80mm whereas the 110/70 tyre has a height of 77mm, the stock tyre is slightly taller the difference is around 3.9% which won't affect much but you will get slight speedometer error. Your actual speed will be a bit lower than what is displayed on your speedometer. The main concern is that up sizing or downsizing the front tyre may affect the handling of your motorcycle so its safe to stick to the stock profile for the front tyre.

    Here's a chart showing how much will be the difference in speed.

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    Upsizing and downsizing the rear tyre also has its pros and cons, but it does not affect the handling of the motorcycle as much as the front tyre does. The main disadvantage of putting a 140/70 tyre is that as its a much taller tyre (98mm sidewall) than the 140/60 tyre (84mm sidewall) is that it dilutes the acceleration of the bike a bit, but on the other side you gain a bit of top end on the 140/70 tyre and can do higher speeds at lower rpm compared to the 140/60 tyre. These things can be corrected by altering the front and rear sprockets of the motorcycle.

    This is the difference you will get to see.

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    As on the fzs fi the speedometer cable is on the front wheel resizing the rear tyre won't affect the speedometer reading.
    I didn't feel much difference in acceleration. The grip is so much better for both front and rear.

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  • Rajdip Saha
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by Sumazure View Post
    Yeah that is one drawback. But is that going to be significant. Is there a way to calculate the error.
    The stock front 100/80 tyre has a height of 80mm whereas the 110/70 tyre has a height of 77mm, the stock tyre is slightly taller the difference is around 3.9% which won't affect much but you will get slight speedometer error. Your actual speed will be a bit lower than what is displayed on your speedometer. The main concern is that up sizing or downsizing the front tyre may affect the handling of your motorcycle so its safe to stick to the stock profile for the front tyre.

    Here's a chart showing how much will be the difference in speed.

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    Upsizing and downsizing the rear tyre also has its pros and cons, but it does not affect the handling of the motorcycle as much as the front tyre does. The main disadvantage of putting a 140/70 tyre is that as its a much taller tyre (98mm sidewall) than the 140/60 tyre (84mm sidewall) is that it dilutes the acceleration of the bike a bit, but on the other side you gain a bit of top end on the 140/70 tyre and can do higher speeds at lower rpm compared to the 140/60 tyre. These things can be corrected by altering the front and rear sprockets of the motorcycle.

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    As on the fzs fi the speedometer cable is on the front wheel resizing the rear tyre won't affect the speedometer reading.

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  • Sumazure
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by Prithvirajmn8 View Post
    Changing front tyre profile, will give incorrect speedometer reading, and incorrect odometer reading.
    Yeah that is one drawback. But is that going to be significant. Is there a way to calculate the error.

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  • Prithvirajmn8
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    Changing front tyre profile, will give incorrect speedometer reading, and incorrect odometer reading.

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  • Rajdip Saha
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    Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

    I dont know if the tyre is touching the swing arm when sitting on the bike - as the gap between the tyre and the swingarm near suspension is very less. Would pulling the tyre outward to increase the gap help. This would also make the chain more tight.

    The short mudguard of the fzs fi rear drum variant fits directly to the older fzs fi variant which has the full sized mudguard, I have fitted the short mudguard and am using it with no issues. Ask the service center guys to give the short mudguard of the rear drum variant not the rear disc variant.
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    And don't worry about the gap between the tyre and the swingarm the look very close but they will not touch, I am using a 140/70 tyre for almost 2 years and the tyre has never touched anywhere. And ride your bike for few thousand kilometers the tyre will gradually wear out a bit and the gap will increase, but dont worry the tyre won't touch anywhere.

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  • Sumazure
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    Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post
    I doubt that anyone has put the tyres you mentioned on their fz. Its a mere stylish commuter bike and these tyres are simply overkill for this bike and are very expensive too.
    140/80 would be a very tall tyre and will surely touch the mudguard and the bike will get very tall geared and will be very sluggish in the lower rev band. Up size up to 140/70 or 150/60 is ok, still the bike will get tall geared but will be quite usable and would directly fit too.

    If you are looking for off-road knobby tyres you can go for ralco speed blaster 140/70 or 130/70. People going to ladakh on their dominar & ktm use this tyre. Its cheap too.You can get it in local market.

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    If you want something for grip and on road use you can check out michelin pilot street radials or mrf masseter both come in 140/70 size.Other cheaper alternatives are mrf zapper s 140/70 which I use and ceat zoom xl.
    I finally was able to change the tyres this month. Had been outstation for a few months and the bike was idle. I put 140/70 masseter MSR-X on the rear and 110/70 RevZ FC on the front. The front tyre fit without issues but the rear tyre being taller needed the rear mud cover to be removed.

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    The tyre shop guy suggested to cut the middle of the mudguard to accommodate the taller tyre. Also the sproket and chain are now exposed and I feel that is not safe for pillion rider. I went to the yamaha spare shop and checked that the later version of FZ V2 has the short mud cover which also covers the chain and sprocket. This is the part towards the suspension. Although the other part at the rear end of the tyre doesn't seem to fit as it has additional mounting hole on the right side. The spare shop didnt have the part in stock so waiting for that to arrive.

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    I dont know if the tyre is touching the swing arm when sitting on the bike - as the gap between the tyre and the swingarm near suspension is very less. Would pulling the tyre outward to increase the gap help. This would also make the chain more tight.

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  • Sumazure
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by mechsabari View Post
    Hi Friends,

    I own a yamaha fzs fi v2 for past 4years. bike odo is 55k kms. badly I am facing a silencer rust on front side . The top layer of the exhaust pipe is completely gone for some distance. I have searched for belly pan in chennai could find. I need some plate cover kind of thing to cover my exhaust pipe on front side from mud and water. Can anyone tell me the which enginer cover will suit for yamaha fzs fi v2?
    I had come across some older post on the same



    Also a video -


    The new FZ FI had an additional accessory functioning as a skid plate.

    But going by the looks, neither seem to be much of a protection from mud or water.

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  • mechsabari
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Hi Friends,

    I own a yamaha fzs fi v2 for past 4years. bike odo is 55k kms. badly I am facing a silencer rust on front side . The top layer of the exhaust pipe is completely gone for some distance. I have searched for belly pan in chennai could find. I need some plate cover kind of thing to cover my exhaust pipe on front side from mud and water. Can anyone tell me the which enginer cover will suit for yamaha fzs fi v2?

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  • bobisbacktorock
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    For everyone who complained about HARD Gear shifts. A video addressing the issue.

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  • Sumazure
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    The detailing this guy has done to digitise is impressive.

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  • truelypulsarian
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    Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Any body experiencing tickling noise from the engine when it becomes hot after a drive???

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