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  • dppatel1226
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Is it good to buy used GS150R that has run 8K km(2014 model).

    What important things should I check in that bike to make a deal? How to confirm that the engine of this bike is good while buying used bike?

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  • Vikshe
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by r0rshack View Post
    hey guys, today morning my GS stalled within a few hundred metres from starting and would not start up again. - no battery issue, spark plug was okay. fortunately there's a mechanic just a few paces away and he took out the spark plug, added a little bit of fork oil (i think) in the spark plug opening and started. Engine came back to life and spewed a lot of white smoke for the initial revvs. Then it was okay!. Mechanic says that it is due to dirt - hair level thickness which blocks in the valves and happens in bikes like unicorn.

    Now....what was all that happened? Is it the same issue as mentioned here : Honda Unicorn losing Engine Compression - HELP - Team-BHP
    dirt can only pass through faulty or leaky air filter

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    Originally posted by r0rshack View Post
    hey guys, today morning my GS stalled within a few hundred metres from starting and would not start up again. - no battery issue, spark plug was okay. fortunately there's a mechanic just a few paces away and he took out the spark plug, added a little bit of fork oil (i think) in the spark plug opening and started. Engine came back to life and spewed a lot of white smoke for the initial revvs. Then it was okay!. Mechanic says that it is due to dirt - hair level thickness which blocks in the valves and happens in bikes like unicorn.

    Now....what was all that happened? Is it the same issue as mentioned here : Honda Unicorn losing Engine Compression - HELP - Team-BHP
    dirt can only pass through faulty or leaky air filter

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  • r0rshack
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    hey guys, today morning my GS stalled within a few hundred metres from starting and would not start up again. - no battery issue, spark plug was okay. fortunately there's a mechanic just a few paces away and he took out the spark plug, added a little bit of fork oil (i think) in the spark plug opening and started. Engine came back to life and spewed a lot of white smoke for the initial revvs. Then it was okay!. Mechanic says that it is due to dirt - hair level thickness which blocks in the valves and happens in bikes like unicorn.

    Now....what was all that happened? Is it the same issue as mentioned here : Honda Unicorn losing Engine Compression - HELP - Team-BHP

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  • yukon
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    Re: My GS 150R has a excess oil burning issue

    Hi ashwant.r,

    Thank you for the reply

    I started using semi-synthetic (MAK-4T) because excess vibrations had started by 6k kms. The service centre
    told me there is less oil and gear shifting was quite hard. With semi-synthetic, vibrations reduced and
    gear shifting became much easier.

    However, after 5-6 oil changes, what I observe is that this bike burns excess oil.

    I do 95 % of the riding in the city where it does exceed 6k RPM and 60-70km/hr speeds.

    I bought this bike (May 2013 model) second-hand at 3500km ODO reading in Nov 2013.

    I will ask the service centre to do a compression test. Let me see the results after that.

    I understand that the 150R has a poor resale value but am not sure what alternative bike
    can I go for which is quite similar to this (not interested in the Unicorn). If I can get the
    repairs done for this bike within Rs 10K, I will am OK with it.

    I should have specified my location, Bangalore. Any recommended service stations here?
    (if not, could you ask your contact at SMK which of their counterparts in bangalore can they
    recommend?)

    TIA

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  • BlackPanther
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Purchased Michelin Sirac Street for Front. Got an offer for 1300. New MRF Zapper was 1600. The current MRF one is good for another 10-15K Kms but another old splendor in the family badly needed a tire change. I will donate the current Zapper to the Splendor.

    No much updates as bike is parked in my room because of a expired insurance and has hardly done 300 kms in last six months. I switch on the bike and run it for 4 to 5 Kms every week on the main stand. Engine cooling is taken care by a pedestal fan

    Petrol is half way mark and the color has changed. Afraid it may start rusting inside the tank. Any ideas are welcome.

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  • Murtaza
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Hi folks
    Changed the clutch plates and pressure plates of my 2009 GS today after 48k on the odo. There was no sign of burning but they were simply worn out quite a bit. And yeah clutch casing and parts inside were as good as new there wasn't any varnish built up. Total expense 1300 including fitting.

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  • r0rshack
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    2 weeks ago, got my rear shock absorbers replaced to that of Apache's - cost me ~ 3400K. Ride experience, well - the level 3 setting on the apache's shock's feel a bit more stiffer than that of stock GS. I have set it to the 2nd level from softest setting and that has increased the height by a slight amount, ride is a lot better than the leaking GS shocks, but im not able to see a big difference from new GS shocks. The installation was straight forward and perfect fit. I would have preferred the golden colored ones, but they were not in stock.
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    Also i replaced my 2.5 yr old "throttle assist" with a rubber version bought from aliexpress
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    The old one slowly developed tear and inhibits function, so i tried to buy a similar kind. The one bought from snapdeal was for around 250 rupees. I bought a cheap one for less than a dollar from aliexpress, and it was cheap and stiff - broke on the second day and i got a refund.
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    This one has a smaller width, but functions the same way. Useful on highways when there is no frequent stopping.

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  • kris123456
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by sudarshan rai View Post
    Thank you for your detailed reply. helped a lot.

    How to detect engine oil burning issue?? Last time some local mechanic warned that engine is burning oil by listening to engine sound itself.

    I doubted it because , neither i see any white smoke coming while revving at high RPM nor i observed any oily residue inside silencer.

    Is there any other way to confirm it??
    How many Kms did your vehicle Clock? If it is less than 50K, don't worry.
    If you are a sedate rider and you ride on highways more. You need not consider your mechanic inputs until 60K or 70K.

    They just need to open engines for money. Their sole existence in shops is to open engines. So, they try to push you. My mech pushed me to change engine components at 20K. Now it has crossed 51K and still has no issues. They just want to screw good vehicles and make money.

    Try to do a engine flush with oil. When you replace oil next time, try to replace with a cheaper 200/- branded oil. Run it for 150-200 KM and then drain it and fill it with good one. All engines have a reserve oil which cannot be changed during regular services. Such a flush helps in getting rid of oil fluids in engine. This should decrease noise. but highly depends on vehicle.

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  • chruzer
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
    Welcome to the thread ! I too have idle-d my GS for long. What cables did you change? How many kilometers has your GS done?
    The accelerator cable and clutch.
    39k before the service and 1 more since.

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  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: My GS 150R has a excess oil burning issue

    Hi ! Replies inline.

    Originally posted by yukon View Post
    Got a 2013 GS 150R. Odometer reading is 19200 km.

    Got 2 issues with the bike

    1) Been using semi-synthetic oil for the past 10k km.
    What I see is that the bike is burning excess oil- the oil level dips to the minimum level by 1200-1500km after an oil change.
    Showed it to a mechanic and was told it was a bore issue.

    Semi-synthetic oil is almost 70-80% mineral only, it might not be the culprit. Try changing the oil: Ensure correct level of 1100 mL and change oil filter too. Use the correct grade of xW-40 motorcycle oil. If only 1000 mL is filled after draining and changing the oil filter, the level would be close to minimum/low mark. Always check oil level exactly as given in manual -> 2-3 minutes of idling, followed by 1-2 minutes of engine off and then read the level.

    How did you run-in/break-in the vehicle - as per manual? Do you lend your bike to other people frequently? 19k is a bit too early for a GS' rings to give away. Also, it is not uncommon for motorcycles driven at very high cruising speeds of 90-100 kmph to burn a little amount of oil as the piston rings do not offer 100% sealing.


    2) Since 7k km, there are excess vibrations. Was told by the service station that this is
    because of the counter crankshaft/balancer

    Excess vibration in GS has many reasons.

    All fasteners/nuts/bolts have to be tightened correctly - especially engine mounting, leg guard mounting, silencer mounting, swing arm and axles, all wheel bearings including sprocket carrier bearing have to be in top shape, and chain should be aligned properly, lubed well and should be in correct slack. Any of those not in spec can cause excess vibration.

    AFAIK, GS did not have any balancer problems, especially ones post 2012. Valve clearances out of spec can also cause a grinding/vibration in GS at ~4500 rpm.


    I will be taking it to the service centre tomorrow. Any suggestions on whether it is worth it to
    have the engine opened up on this bike and have work done?

    Only a compression test in the SVC can answer this. Request them to do it - it is a routine test they do for vehicles with oil burning problem. Are there other symptoms like white smoke, loss of pick-up, loss of mileage and oil-fouled spark plug? If those symptoms are there, yes, the rings/bore might have worn out. Whether it is worth to have the engine opened and spend a bomb - you have to decide my friend, because GS already has poor resale value. If you want to keep it for long, go ahead with the repair.

    If I do get work done on this bike, which Suzuki showroom should I trust?


    Your location? If in chennai - First Choice: SMK. Second: ABT.

    TIA for your suggestions.
    Last edited by ashwanth.r; 10-04-2017, 06:58 PM.

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  • yukon
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    My GS 150R has a excess oil burning issue

    Got a 2013 GS 150R. Odometer reading is 19200 km.

    Got 2 issues with the bike

    1) Been using semi-synthetic oil for the past 10k km.
    What I see is that the bike is burning excess oil- the oil level dips to the minimum level by 1200-1500km after an oil change.
    Showed it to a mechanic and was told it was a bore issue.

    2) Since 7k km, there are excess vibrations. Was told by the service station that this is
    because of the counter crankshaft/balancer


    I will be taking it to the service centre tomorrow. Any suggestions on whether it is worth it to
    have the engine opened up on this bike and have work done?

    If I do get work done on this bike, which Suzuki showroom should I trust?


    TIA for your suggestions.

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  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by sudarshan rai View Post
    How to detect engine oil burning issue?? Last time some local mechanic warned that engine is burning oil by listening to engine sound itself. I doubted it because , neither i see any white smoke coming while revving at high RPM nor i observed any oily residue inside silencer. Is there any other way to confirm it??
    Blue-ish/white smoke and oil in the tip of the silencer - you already mentioned it. And in most cases, the spark plug would be oil-fouled. How much oil are you able to drain, say after atleast 3000 kms -> this should be around 900 mL to 1L. It is possible for an experienced mechanic to say whether piston is worn out just by listening to it - the manual itself says in the troubleshooting section that excess noise is one of the signs of worn piston rings/top-end - but other signs/symptoms should support it.

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  • sudarshan rai
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
    Did you carry out the AC to DC conversion by yourself/mechanic or was the magneto cover opened at any point of time?

    It looks like the oil is leaking from the magneto's wire - the point where it exits the case, or from the starter motor gear cover. If it is leaking from the magneto's wire, an Anabond sealant could be used as the set of wires alone are not available as a part to change. If it is leaking from the starter motor gear cover, renewing that gasket would solve it. Also, remove the front sprocket cover to check whether the neutral switch and front sprocket seals are okay. Another culprit would be the magneto cover gasket itself, if you have removed it for something.

    This is not a "serious issue" (in terms of cost involved or damage) and could be attended at the SVC. Keep an eye on the oil level and attend to it ASAP.

    Also, I see some wiring is unconnected (near the starter motor).

    Thank you for your detailed reply. helped a lot.

    yes, oil is leaking from both started motor seal and magneto's wire, Will keep an eye on the oil level.


    One more question..

    How to detect engine oil burning issue?? Last time some local mechanic warned that engine is burning oil by listening to engine sound itself.

    I doubted it because , neither i see any white smoke coming while revving at high RPM nor i observed any oily residue inside silencer.

    Is there any other way to confirm it??

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  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by sudarshan rai View Post
    Oil Leaking issue in my bike. I could see wet patches near gearbox [photos attached], it leaks 3-4 drops a week while parking. Is this a serious issue??.
    Did you carry out the AC to DC conversion by yourself/mechanic or was the magneto cover opened at any point of time?

    It looks like the oil is leaking from the magneto's wire - the point where it exits the case, or from the starter motor gear cover. If it is leaking from the magneto's wire, an Anabond sealant could be used as the set of wires alone are not available as a part to change. If it is leaking from the starter motor gear cover, renewing that gasket would solve it. Also, remove the front sprocket cover to check whether the neutral switch and front sprocket seals are okay. Another culprit would be the magneto cover gasket itself, if you have removed it for something.

    This is not a "serious issue" (in terms of cost involved or damage) and could be attended at the SVC. Keep an eye on the oil level and attend to it ASAP.

    Also, I see some wiring is unconnected (near the starter motor).
    Last edited by ashwanth.r; 09-21-2017, 02:45 AM.

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  • Sasank
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Yes, it is.

    Over period time, the inner ring of engine cast or screw's ring looses its grip, could be due to frequent bolting or over tightening. Inspect carefully for solution.

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