Re: Apache RTR/FI

i'll try and take pics later today when i get time. where is the issue? connector-end or where it meets the main wiring harness?

meanwhile, i'm not 100% sure about this but a very reliable and knowledgeable friend told me that disconnecting the battery for a while (30 mins to be safe) will reset all ecu settings to default, including AFR/CO. I haven't ECU'd my bike for about 5-6 years and its running fine. gave me 70+ once running ~250km highway going below 50km/h the whole time. but where's the fun in that? i rev it to 7-8k rpm and typically i get 40-45 in city, riding pretty aggressively. does about 120-125 top speed. This is on a very worn engine, compression is pretty low once hot, probably a badly worn cylinder, and a clutch which is almost finished. anyway, what i'm saying is you probably don't need to diagnose the ECU, except maybe to check what's going on, try seeing if disconnecting the battery resets it.

I completely disagree with the fi specifically having issues, the wiring harness though is absolutely crap quality. and tvs has used insulation tape to wrap the whole thing where they should have used sleeves and heat-shrink. I had quite a few wiring harness issues, which i've mostly fixed myself because I didn't want to buy a new harness for 3.5k. But look at it this way. For a 7 year old bike, is spending 3.5k really too much?

I mean, my upcoming engine overhaul is gonna be easily 3k for the clutch and maybe 5-10k for the engine depending on what all i'm gonna fix. this is including both parts and labour. as far as i'm concerned the fi system is pretty flawless, but the rest of the electrical and mechanical systems are quite poor in quality and longevity.

more essay later...

p.s. bike is a sep 2008 with ~48k on the odo

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I think it's 790mm. and nice to see someone using the correct term instead of 'seat'

Re: Apache RTR/FI

Hi,
Can any Apache-Fi owners post picture of this ECU diagnostic probe/connector picture and its wiring under seat.
thanks,
Raman

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very true brother,
Just came from tristar(Domlur). according to them Noting can be done without replacing entire wiring harness costs 2k+(not in stock, min 15-20 days waiting period).
i will visit DTW in evening to check any thing can be done on this issue.its turning to be a white elephant for me..
thanks,
Raman

Re: Apache RTR/FI

Fi is the most vibey bike when compared to carb versions. Jerking issue might be due to bike running lean. Yeah you might need to check ecu setting with diagnostic tool. Of the 6 years I used this bike I have never got a mileage close to 50 kmpl. But however I rode, it used to return me an avegare of 41-43 kmpl. If the socket has been cut, you might have to buy the entire electrical wiring kit for the bike. You don't get separate parts especially with wiring. And Fi wiring system is expensive. And availability also might be a problem. Don't try to convert this into a carb if you face issues. This bike will give you nightmares due to Fi system in place. The carb wiring system won't work as it is not compatible with the coil and magnet of the bike.

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I have pulsar in Native. so i picked up Apache.Im facing jerking issues now , so need to be checked with diagnosing tool with PC.
yes I agree electrical part is is the Biggest flaw in the Apache RTR-Fi.
but it gives the best riding Experience compared to Pulsar-180 and easy on pockets(easily returns 50+Kmpl).

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You should have bought the carb version or picked a 180. That fi system is a pain and its kinda outdated now. The electricals are the most messy part of the bike. Hope you don't have any issue with the bike.

Re: Apache RTR/FI

Hi,

I recently bought used TVS Apache 160-Efi. during service i noticed that the port which used for Diagnostic using PC(ECU Tuning) has been sliced off.
Can somebody please post the picture of the same in details.
the one which is above the Fuse compartment near battery section...
attached sample for same

Thanks,
Raman

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI

Its little more whitish than normal and so its not that good when in it comes to rain & foggy condition.
I would suggest you not to change as the extra amount you pay for the same is not that worth mainly because its still 35W. We need atleast 55W to see a change but our bikes being AC & not completly DC, the higher wattage bulbs wont run well.

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI


Thanks bro.. I will try that..

By the way wanted to change stock head light bulb also and while going through older posts, found that you too were looking for Osram Nightracer plus 35W. Did you get it ? If yes, is there a considerable difference in light throw (between stock and nightracer) ?

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI

For peace of mind you better carry the same spec oil for top-up. Its good if you can check oil level in between pit stops.

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI

Hi all,

While putting the shell ultra engine oil myself, I spilled around 200ml by mistake and could pour in only around 800ml..

I'm going on long ride next week and I will be covering 640km on coming Tuesday and return journey will be the next Sunday.. Will it hurt my engine if I have only around 700-800ml oil.?

Re: Apache RTR/FI

My beloved RTR. January 2011 model. Since i shifted to another place ( also had severe neck pain), had to sell it. Now it is with a dear friend of mine. He still maintains it in mint condition.



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My beloved RTR. January 2011 model. Since i shifted to another place ( also had severe neck pain), had to sell it. Now it is with a dear friend of mine. He still maintains it in mint condition.

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Looks like everyone has been busy riding..

Has anyone from Bangalore done de-carbonization for the piston head ? If yes, from where ?

I am looking for a good service center near HSR layout, Bangalore. I shifted to this area few months back. I had thought Kubera TVS in HSR is a good service center (as said in previous post) but they have bad reviews on Google.

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI

I had been to TVS service centre in HSR layout, Bangalore yesterday to get chain sprocket checked. There were no issues with the sprocket but instead they said gear shift is not smooth and changed the gear lever which was covered within warranty. I had felt this issue before but thought it's the same with all RTRs and had got used to it.

Thanks to those guys, gear shift is super smooth now..

This was my only second visit to that service centre and I'm very happy with the experience both times. Also got positive feedback from the people who had come there for service. Feeling like to get the bike serviced from there next time..:P

Re: Apache RTR 160/FI

How good is tvs remora 110/80, anyone tried using it. Zapper C 110/80 is out of stock, and i prefer to stick with stock size for Rear profile tyre.