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  • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
    you need to tighten the check nut of the handle.
    ok will check it out tomorrow.
    acha can any one give me any suggestion for abs?
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    • Originally posted by Nithanth View Post
      Hi guys,

      I got my first service done a week ago. Here are some issues I'm planning to report to the SVC guys on Monday -

      * I feel a loss in power and acceleration

      * Engine misfiring. When I take the bike to 60kmph, release throttle for 1-6 seconds and twist the throttle again (however slowly), engine misfires. Sometimes even at 50kmph. I'm able to reproduce this every single time.
      I got the exact probs with my FI as well. The misfiring is a recent thing though. i only experienced something like this in a thunderbird earlier but it started happening a couple of days back with FI i thought that it was probably due to the fact that the bike was due its 1st service. But i got my service today and even then i misfired as soon as i hit the road. and the acceleration felt a bit on the down side but picked up to normal after i drove about 30 kms.

      I asked the SVC guy about the stalling bit but he said he would have to take a longer ride with me to see what the problem is. Unfortunately the bike does that only when it wants too and there is no way i can predict it happening with teh SVC guy on board

      Can anybody suggest which is the best SVC in Mumbai for FI. I know for a fact that the ndheri one is not good and the one i went to in Mulund is just about ok.

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      • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
        i can't help it if english is a problem ... anyway, the point i was trying to make is that instead of trivialising these issues into a joke, we should be getting tvs to solve them. not accepting them as 'came with the bike' or 'standard accessories'.
        posting here in this thraed with "specialised" english and tellin othr guys to stop 'jokin' just not alone solves the problem.....nyways if TVS is not doin anythin bout it,it'll be interestin to see how it gets solved.......

        Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
        i'm probably one of the unluckiest persons out there. just think, would all the fi owners who don't have any issues with their bikes come out here and post that they DON'T have problems ? no, it's just the ones that do who will post. i'm sure there are plenty of FIs out there without any problems..
        thr are FI's out thr which are perfect and running just fine but the major chunk are the one's with some common related issues....you should be glad being 'unlucky' then......


        Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
        well then it's obvious that the FI unit itself was not faulty. regardless, tvs HAS to solve the problem...
        the FI unit has some prob tht is causing all the troubles.....
        hope TVS goes through this thred in XBHP....


        Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
        well, ignorance is bliss i guess. i did say performance bikes. the fiero was a very relaxed tune and would probably run for eternity without as much as a whimper. i actually do know fieros that have run for ages. and you're kidding about the more heat=more power right? just because YOU don't know something doesn't mean it aint true. it is common knowledge that overheating reduces power. an easy (relatively) way out with 2-strokes like the rd was to optimise the squish band so more heat could be transferred from the hot piston to the cooler cylinder head. also the incoming charge also helps cool the engine. one of my theories is that due to the fi, the charge isn't cooling the engine enough. i don't talk about what i don't know dude. suggest you try the same.
        if i'm revving the hell out of an engine for long even the 'father' of relaxed tuned bike will beg for mercy....
        so according to ur theory i can run 'luna' for 5 days in a row and the engine will run cuz it's the softest tuned engine i think....

        if engine is producing more heat then it'll be producing power...and if engine is gettin hot and dyin then tht's trouble for sure...and in FI's case 15kms is not makin engine temp touch 1000degrees tht it misses and the bike behaves in strange manner....

        man u have ur own theories...
        they may be super brushed up accordin to you but may be still very dirty for me....
        The Magician"

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        • Guys i am facing very bad problem of gear shifting now. I am thinking of opening the clutchplates at my own and clean up the clutchplates and pressure plates. Shall i do that? plz advice.
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          • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
            if engine is producing more heat then it'll be producing power...and if engine is gettin hot and dyin then tht's trouble for sure...and in FI's case 15kms is not makin engine temp touch 1000degrees tht it misses and the bike behaves in strange manner....
            wow that was something !

            well, since you're the expert here, i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. you can be happy that your heat-power theory is the best !

            but consider this, when a newcomer posts his problems here and sees character jokes as a response, he will think the problem is part of the package and will probably not even bother asking tvs to fix it. my suggestion to you would be if you can't offer constructive advice to a person seeking help, then it's better to stay silent rather than make excuses for poor after sales service.

            Originally posted by vineet_fi View Post
            Can anybody suggest which is the best SVC in Mumbai for FI. I know for a fact that the ndheri one is not good and the one i went to in Mulund is just about ok.
            you can safely strike out vashi for being the worst service centre on the planet. ashwini thane does a decent job. of changing the oil and filter after keeping the bike for 24 hours. when i picked up the bike it wasnt even washed properly. there was dust everywhere, greasy fingerprints on the side panel and loads of greasy gunk under the sprocket cover. when i asked them they put it in for a wash and it was nice in clean in 5 minutes. so i wonder what they actually do during the service. and they said the gunk under the sprocket will NOT go unless a diesel is done, which of course they don't do. i've heard others say that the mulund one is the best and has won awards from tvs or something. or maybe it was another place.

            sad part is the suzuki service centre at panvel which used to be raigad tvs is such an amazing place. very clean, and the mechs are pretty experienced. very professional. tvs could learn a thing or two from suzuki. i had my 2nd service done there, but now they've stopped accepting tvs bikes under free service.
            Last edited by julianpaul; 05-10-2009, 12:22 PM.

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            • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
              wow that was something !

              well, since you're the expert here, i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. you can be happy that your heat-power theory is the best !

              but consider this, when a newcomer posts his problems here and sees character jokes as a response, he will think the problem is part of the package and will probably not even bother asking tvs to fix it. my suggestion to you would be if you can't offer constructive advice to a person seeking help, then it's better to stay silent rather than make excuses for poor after sales service.
              the newcomer is not tht much stupid to get that missing and power loss as a part of the package!!!!!!!!

              grreto!!!!!!!!!!

              and if you think tht TVS is providin very good serv to sort these issues out,tell me the address at which they're doin it i'll come thr with my bike.....

              fill pages here buddy..
              i'll be skippin the one's holdin ur posts....
              The Magician"

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              • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                check with the engine oil level & quality. svc might have not topped it well resulting in heating of engine and high rpms.the kar kar sound must be from chain they may have not lubricated it and slackness would insufficient(it must be 3-4 cm). if its not chain, check rear disc for uniformity a bang of hammer may distort it at time of service. its my experience, the chain slackness kept by svc on my rtr was 1 cm. they didn't lubricated it. engine oil added was 800ml and of 5W30 grade. On Fi, the rpm is controlled by ECU. it runs faster because of heating. and yes, check throttle free play also.
                You're right, the high idle rpm was probably due to overheated engine. This morning when I started the bike, it was back at 1250rpm. What worries me though is how can the engine heat up that much when I rode it for hardly 15km?

                And the kar kar sound... I think its the chain. I guess I'll have to get it cleaned up by the SVC guys. I really don't know what they do during service if they can't even clean and lube the chain neatly .

                Engine oil... no idea how much is there coz I found the knob too tight to open Will get it opened by them and check tomorrow.

                Originally posted by vineet_fi
                I got the exact probs with my FI as well. The misfiring is a recent thing though. i only experienced something like this in a thunderbird earlier but it started happening a couple of days back with FI i thought that it was probably due to the fact that the bike was due its 1st service. But i got my service today and even then i misfired as soon as i hit the road. and the acceleration felt a bit on the down side but picked up to normal after i drove about 30 kms.

                I asked the SVC guy about the stalling bit but he said he would have to take a longer ride with me to see what the problem is. Unfortunately the bike does that only when it wants too and there is no way i can predict it happening with teh SVC guy on board

                Can anybody suggest which is the best SVC in Mumbai for FI. I know for a fact that the ndheri one is not good and the one i went to in Mulund is just about ok.
                Please let me know if you get the misfiring issue fixed buddy. Would be of great help

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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius
                  and missing power after the engine is hot is real news to me man cuz in the racing world the line goes-"serious heat=more power"....

                  i beg to differ Renny. if that was the case then we wouldnt see the use of LC in modern bikes right? the engine needs optimal temperature. Neither too hot nor too cold. Which is why the radiator fan does not always work. just when the engine overheats.

                  As Julian says there seems to be a problem with heat and the fi unit. My bike behaves quite differently in the early mornings and the noons. and when the bike is used in hosur, then there is absolutely no problem.

                  anyways a small update. I have forwarded my list of grouses with the missing throttle response as the biggest grouse, to the concerned officials at TVS Motors. The level my complaint has currently gone to is pretty high and i hope it really sorts my bikes problems.

                  So yeah will keep you guys updated.
                  R.I.P kriss.

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                  • Originally posted by sai_ace View Post
                    i beg to differ Renny. if that was the case then we wouldnt see the use of LC in modern bikes right? the engine needs optimal temperature. Neither too hot nor too cold. Which is why the radiator fan does not always work. just when the engine overheats.

                    As Julian says there seems to be a problem with heat and the fi unit. My bike behaves quite differently in the early mornings and the noons. and when the bike is used in hosur, then there is absolutely no problem.

                    anyways a small update. I have forwarded my list of grouses with the missing throttle response as the biggest grouse, to the concerned officials at TVS Motors. The level my complaint has currently gone to is pretty high and i hope it really sorts my bikes problems.

                    So yeah will keep you guys updated.
                    my info may be wrong then....i'm sorry on tht...
                    it's good to hear tht TVS officials are listening.. lets see how things goes out....
                    The Magician"

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                    • Theres one reason why I dont post here now off late...

                      BTW the TVS Zonal Manager from Chennai Called me up personally and gave me the contact details of where to contact for my region for fixing my bike.... so much for service, I cant seem to recollect anyone else doing this....
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                      • I've been real busy running around, with my trip around the corner and haven't really had the time to contact tvs. besides, my biggest problem right now is the damn brake light wire which seems really trivial compared to the serious issues others on the forum are having. so i didnt bother taking tvs to the task. yet. however, i would suggest that anyone facing these fi related problems take the issues as high up as possible. a page or two back, i've posted two links to aparajith's posts which have tvs contacts and i'm sure people can find more out there. my point is the more people that make a noise about these issues which the damn service centers don't seem to be doing crap about, the better it is for the community as a whole. time to take the fight to them people !

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                        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          my info may be wrong then....i'm sorry on tht...
                          it's good to hear tht TVS officials are listening.. lets see how things goes out....
                          Your info is not wrong. More power = more heat. That's why high powered bikes are all liquid cooled. To cool the engine and to sustain the higher power output reliably without letting the amount of high heat generated in the engine to destroy the motor.

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                          • Originally posted by sankar View Post
                            Your info is not wrong. More power = more heat. That's why high powered bikes are all liquid cooled. To cool the engine and to sustain the higher power output reliably without letting the amount of high heat generated in the engine to destroy the motor.
                            not that i wanna fight but i think he said more heat=more power, as in the hotter the engine runs, the more power it makes.

                            what sankar says is absolutely right. the rtr seems to be making more power than the (current) air-cooling can handle. even the rds had the same problem, that's why after the B, higher powered models were all LC.

                            p.s. before anyone asks, no it's not easy to LC the rtr.

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                            • Originally posted by Nithanth View Post
                              You're right, the high idle rpm was probably due to overheated engine. This morning when I started the bike, it was back at 1250rpm. What worries me though is how can the engine heat up that much when I rode it for hardly 15km?

                              And the kar kar sound... I think its the chain. I guess I'll have to get it cleaned up by the SVC guys. I really don't know what they do during service if they can't even clean and lube the chain neatly .

                              Engine oil... no idea how much is there coz I found the knob too tight to open Will get it opened by them and check tomorrow.



                              Please let me know if you get the misfiring issue fixed buddy. Would be of great help

                              SVC guy will always tight the knob(dip stick) with adjustable wrench. overheating is normal atleast for TVS (it was with my victor, scooty and now apache) it gets normalized after about 5000-6000kms. u need not care about it. just keep riding and neglect engine idle RPMs. It will keep on changing with atmospheric temprature and engine temprature. And another thing, its summer man, engine is taking in air at 40+ degrees in noon. And check chain slackness is 3-4 cms because if less, when the rear suspension is compressed, the chain becomes tighter.
                              Last edited by nox2505; 05-10-2009, 09:36 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                                not that i wanna fight but i think he said more heat=more power, as in the hotter the engine runs, the more power it makes.
                                I get your point. More heat is not always more power

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