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  • @sam92: Turning the RPM adjuster will not adjust the A:F ratio, it will only increase/decrease the idling RPM!
    Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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    • Took the Apache to CBZ in D-block, Sec-10 Noida. Spoke to the head mechanic there, Ajay. He was very helpful, very knowledgeable, and totally honest. He took the bike for a spin. Aside from the bent handlebar issue (which I knew about beforehand) he pinpointed certain problems.

      1. Brake pads have been worn out, any longer and I'd have had to change the disc assembly. Caught it in time.

      2. Clutch is slipping, so the plates and housing need to be changed. Fitting the RTR's clutch assembly. This mod is supposed to make a big difference, so let's see.

      3. Chain slack is horrible. He told me to put the Refresh's O-ring chain-sprocket kit. He also said he'd get me the open chain cover and chain lube sprays from Karol Bagh if I wanted, so I asked him to do that. Gave him 600 to get both.

      4. Swingarm bushings need changing.

      5. Oil sump had a slight backup causing improper flow of engine oil. That'll be fixed on priority basis, along with straightening the handlebar.

      6. The CBZ guys in Hyderabad f'ed up my carburetor settings and A-F mixture. I've been running seriously lean. The mech explained the method mentioned in previous posts (the RPM jump technique) and said he'll add another quarter or half turn after that so the bike runs just a bit rich and gives me max power with at least 45 km/l and a dark brown tip to my spark plug (which I am changing to an NGK in a few weeks).

      7. Ajay adjusted my headlight beam height but asked me to fit some white halogens in all the three bulbs. He also asked me to change my tyres within 2000-3000 kms.

      8. Fuel gauge went for a toss, that's being replaced.

      Any other components need changing, he'll let me know via SMS as the day progresses.

      Estimated costs

      CBZ Gold Service (labour): 355
      Apache brake pad set: 320
      RTR Refresh chain-sprocket set: 670
      RTR clutch plates: 570
      RTR clutch housing (if necessary): 900
      RTR clutch wire: 120
      Castrol Power1: 275
      Apache swingarm bushings: 100-150
      Fuel gauge sensor: 80
      RTR Refresh chain cover: 170
      Motul chain lube spray set: 450

      Total: ~Rs. 3000-4000

      + ~Rs. 2200 for tyre change

      Goodbye partying money
      "One love, one heart. Let's get together and feel all right."

      The love affair goes on. 18-DEC-2006.

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      • ^^ very reasonable if you ask me.

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        • Definitely reasonable. But now I have to drink KF for a month instead of Carlsberg to balance it all out.
          "One love, one heart. Let's get together and feel all right."

          The love affair goes on. 18-DEC-2006.

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          • hey kf aint all that bad. i mean it's almost the same as all the indian made 'foreign' brands. we do tuborg these days. cheap and its pretty consistent. as in it tastes as bad and gets flat the same way every single time . best thing is it's drinkable even when it's flat.
            Last edited by julianpaul; 07-18-2009, 07:51 PM.

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            • Hehe. Tuborg is good stuff.

              Just got the bike back. It's wonderful, the guy was really well-versed in the engine. Have to slowly break in the clutch and pressure plates for about 200 kms. or so. Except that the clutch has gone from immensely tight to immensely loose. I'll tighten it up soon.

              Gotta change my handlebar totally. They don't make the A150 piece AFAIK, so I'm thinking the Pulsar 150's handlebar onto my switchgear. I need to know ASAP, is this possible?
              "One love, one heart. Let's get together and feel all right."

              The love affair goes on. 18-DEC-2006.

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              • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                can anyone explain how to check round slide is working or not?

                when i had removed the carb, i blocked intake side and sucked air from engine side. it lifted up. is thr any other mathod to check with engine?

                My RTR is working gr8 now, in fact better than factory setup.. Round slide is functional(hich means i haven't screwed the vaccum diaphragm. vibes are way low, engine is very smooth. top speed i recorded is 127kmph(speedo) over 122 previous. planning to plonk in 108 main jet. and 110 if i go for K&N and iridium.
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                • Originally posted by ashwinBK View Post
                  Hehe. Tuborg is good stuff.

                  Just got the bike back. It's wonderful, the guy was really well-versed in the engine. Have to slowly break in the clutch and pressure plates for about 200 kms. or so. Except that the clutch has gone from immensely tight to immensely loose. I'll tighten it up soon.

                  Gotta change my handlebar totally. They don't make the A150 piece AFAIK, so I'm thinking the Pulsar 150's handlebar onto my switchgear. I need to know ASAP, is this possible?
                  pesama sarayam kudi...its even cheaper

                  good to know ur bike is back in action da.....and i guess Pulsar handle would fit without trouble...have seen couple of A150 with them....

                  How are delhi chicks?
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                  • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                    @sam92: Turning the RPM adjuster will not adjust the A:F ratio, it will only increase/decrease the idling RPM!
                    dude ..i am not talking about idileing screw .. we are talking about air mixture/volume/or whteva screw .. the carb has it .. unlike your sports bike
                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    11.5 is hell of too much in any case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    get ur jets cleaned bro....
                    i have to give it for serv .. just not finding time
                    Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                    Get the carb sump and jets cleaned and vaccum bubble of round slide also. and then set it. with ur current settings, twist the throttle full and release if engine retards slowly, u r running very rich, with which spark plug would become black.
                    i have to check the plug now // and about the throttle response..well its behaving as if i jst brought the bike from the company .. i mean its perfect
                    Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                    one turn=360 degrees. you're counting every 180 deg or half-turn.

                    and the number of turns WILL vary from carb/bike to carb/bike. Many reasons like state of tune, engine/clutch condition, sometimes the threads of the screws/carb body are worn, and it could even be dirt or other obstructions in the jets.

                    here's a pretty simple guide to setting your carb, also called the idle drop procedure in other parts.

                    The idle drop method of adjusting the CV carb idle mixture - The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum

                    edit: the site has a pretty detailed discussion on carb tuning and plugs; i do not know about the correctness of the statements made further on, just that the first post is a decent rough guide to setting idle properly.

                    edit2: the thread is about a harley sportster so don't bother with exact figures. just the method.
                    thanks for the link .. i already checked that website out .. and dont worry bro .. i know whats a 180degrees and 360
                    Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                    My RTR is working gr8 now, in fact better than factory setup.. Round slide is functional(hich means i haven't screwed the vaccum diaphragm. vibes are way low, engine is very smooth. top speed i recorded is 127kmph(speedo) over 122 previous. planning to plonk in 108 main jet. and 110 if i go for K&N and iridium.
                    can you please explain what is this ,, i am ready for experiments
                    Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                    pesama sarayam kudi...its even cheaper

                    good to know ur bike is back in action da.....and i guess Pulsar handle would fit without trouble...have seen couple of A150 with them....

                    How are delhi chicks?
                    OT--aieeeee satish .. dont say delhi chicks .. say ''TOTA''
                    OT-- @ashwin ---yes yes how are the TOTA ?
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                    • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                      My RTR is working gr8 now, in fact better than factory setup.. Round slide is functional(hich means i haven't screwed the vaccum diaphragm. vibes are way low, engine is very smooth. top speed i recorded is 127kmph(speedo) over 122 previous. planning to plonk in 108 main jet. and 110 if i go for K&N and iridium.
                      +1

                      man dont even think of fiddling that vaccum diaphram...
                      1mm of it "idhar udhar" and you'll screw it real good.....

                      PLZ post ur "jetting" thing...
                      i'll wait for it....

                      Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                      i have to give it for serv .. just not finding time
                      go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




                      Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                      OT--aieeeee satish .. dont say delhi chicks .. say ''TOTA''
                      OT-- @ashwin ---yes yes how are the TOTA ?
                      JOHN....
                      you gave us a nice word....
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                      • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                        pesama sarayam kudi...its even cheaper

                        good to know ur bike is back in action da.....and i guess Pulsar handle would fit without trouble...have seen couple of A150 with them....

                        How are delhi chicks?
                        Sarayam? Enna nenchikare da? I'm not sitting in Tiruneveli. I'm in the land where JD is available in wine shops!

                        Setu from xBhp Delhi told me that I can find the A150 spares in Sec-9 Noida, which is about 10 mins. from my place. So let me go and see what happens there, otherwise I'll go to Bajaj's nearest workshop and pick up a handlebar and ask the CBZ guys to fix it.

                        Small problem, despite the bike working well it feels so rough going over roads, as though the shocks are gone for a six but I don't think that is the issue. It feels almost as if the bike is in a hurry to go places. You get what I'm saying? Any chassis/swingarm/structural problem?

                        TOTA's are okay, nothing special seen yet aside from some clearly "generous" women in their late 20s/early 30s. Maybe some good maal to see at college tomorrow.
                        "One love, one heart. Let's get together and feel all right."

                        The love affair goes on. 18-DEC-2006.

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                        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          +1

                          man dont even think of fiddling that vaccum diaphram...
                          1mm of it "idhar udhar" and you'll screw it real good.....

                          PLZ post ur "jetting" thing...
                          i'll wait for it....
                          i regarding vaccum bubble, nothing so critical abt it. if thr is no leakage, it will work as per vaccum. To screw something, you need to change the spring tension or need to have leakage. i have kept spring intact and slide is working means thr is no prob.

                          i have asked my fellow shop owner to bring 108 and 110 main jets. he will bring in this week.

                          Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                          can you please explain what is this ,, i am ready for experiments
                          round slide is operated by vaccum chamber at top of carb. u can open it with + screw driver. the needle is attached to the round slide, and controls the main jet opening. the diaphragm is very delicate like condom, and if it is teared, round slide and needle wont lift up and main jet opening and air flow will be restricted.

                          visit noxfield.blogspot.com next week for few carb things.
                          Last edited by nox2505; 07-19-2009, 03:42 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                            i regarding vaccum bubble, nothing so critical abt it. if thr is no leakage, it will work as per vaccum. To screw something, you need to change the spring tension or need to have leakage. i have kept spring intact and slide is working means thr is no prob.
                            yes...

                            you're abso right,now i get why i screwed the carb ofy FIERO once cuz while cleaning the thing i must have disturbed the springs tension...
                            The Magician"

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                            • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                              i regarding vaccum bubble, nothing so critical abt it. if thr is no leakage, it will work as per vaccum. To screw something, you need to change the spring tension or need to have leakage. i have kept spring intact and slide is working means thr is no prob.

                              i have asked my fellow shop owner to bring 108 and 110 main jets. he will bring in this week.


                              round slide is operated by vaccum chamber at top of carb. u can open it with + screw driver. the needle is attached to the round slide, and controls the main jet opening. the diaphragm is very delicate like condom, and if it is teared, round slide and needle wont lift up and main jet opening and air flow will be restricted.

                              visit noxfield.blogspot.com for few carb things.
                              a pic will work just fine
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                              • Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                                a pic will work just fine
                                Search on google for cv cars and round slides
                                There's lot to it other than saddle....


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