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**indianz_alive** · 01-23-2010, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

@Renny, Satish & all

Help me out guyz. My bike now feels no more RTR. Slow, harsh and all bad names are applied which are thinkable. Tell me guyz what can be the reason that your bike are doing 126-128 and mine doing 109 after a full throttle on a long strech. Now I am going mad

Tell me what can be the reason behind this. ? ?

Both my wheels are moving freely, I am lubing and cleaning my chain periodically, serviving is done on or before time. I was once able to reach 118 which is still saved in the top speed logger. Runin was done quite sanely but with long rides of 100 kms.

Mileage I am getting is around 46-47 and I think its too not something biblical. But tell me the diagnostics which I can try because 20kmph is a whole lot of difference in same type of machines.

Clutch plates can also be the culprit for sluggish nature... If yours has done around 20Ks on odo, this possibility can be more prominent. Try 0-60 reading, I think it won't be less than 5.2 sec.

**nox2505** · 01-23-2010, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by kauria View Post

But how come the rings are fried within 4000 km, after the engine rebuild under warranty, they replaced everything from head, valves, piston with gudgeon pin & the block. After that for the first 2000km I have again maintain the run-in. How come man?

And regarding the ignition system how to ensure that everything is OK?

BTW did you replace the jets of 180 and what is the result?

Even signle scratch on block wall can make all things go wrong. tell svc to check crank position switch, then swap the TCI and ignition coil with another RTR and check the results. You need not have to run long. with new spark plug, if you ride for an hour and check it again, you will get the results. Regarding 180's jet, its 125 size. though direct fit in main jet holder, it would be too big. trying to get 107 or 108 size main jet but not available around.

**rennycornelius** · 01-23-2010, 12:52 PM

@kauria

first image indicates badly tuned bike, more on the rich side, that could play havoc to effiecincy and acceleration.

go back few pages, i have eplaining the tuning procedure.

Originally posted by rocker View Post

@Renny, Satish & all

Help me out guyz. My bike now feels no more RTR. Slow, harsh and all bad names are applied which are thinkable. Tell me guyz what can be the reason that your bike are doing 126-128 and mine doing 109 after a full throttle on a long strech. Now I am going mad

Tell me what can be the reason behind this. ? ?

Both my wheels are moving freely, I am lubing and cleaning my chain periodically, serviving is done on or before time. I was once able to reach 118 which is still saved in the top speed logger. Runin was done quite sanely but with long rides of 100 kms.

Mileage I am getting is around 46-47 and I think its too not something biblical. But tell me the diagnostics which I can try because 20kmph is a whole lot of difference in same type of machines.

your main prob lies in the top speed department....

how many kms logged?

:are you getting acceleration as before??
:has efficiency dropped??
:any cold starts probs??
:any hiccups after 6000Rpm??

most importantly to check if clutch plates are gone or not, accelerate your bike in gear and shift without closing the accelerator, if the bike pauses (revs and then goes forward,after the clutch is disengaged) and then takes on the surge, your plates are fried.

**rennycornelius** · 01-23-2010, 01:01 PM

YAMALUBE MINERAL OIL 350 kms report.

i'm not happy with this oil, the vibration have increased considerabley as compared to the engine filled with the can of POWER 1...

it is a good oil but not for RTR.

although, the smoothness below 5000RPM is as same but above 6000RPM with POWER 1 it's almost 30% less vibes..

thouth POWER 1 is not liked by many others here in this forum , but i've very good experience with it, right from my FIERO days...

will change back to POWER1 or SPRINTA (if i'm able to find one here in INDORE) after 700kms.

**onlinesatish** · 01-23-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

@Renny, Satish & all

Help me out guyz. My bike now feels no more RTR. Slow, harsh and all bad names are applied which are thinkable. Tell me guyz what can be the reason that your bike are doing 126-128 and mine doing 109 after a full throttle on a long strech. Now I am going mad

Tell me what can be the reason behind this. ? ?

Both my wheels are moving freely, I am lubing and cleaning my chain periodically, serviving is done on or before time. I was once able to reach 118 which is still saved in the top speed logger. Runin was done quite sanely but with long rides of 100 kms.

Mileage I am getting is around 46-47 and I think its too not something biblical. But tell me the diagnostics which I can try because 20kmph is a whole lot of difference in same type of machines.

I guess tight tappets also affect top speed and acceleration.

Originally posted by kauria View Post

But how come the rings are fried within 4000 km, after the engine rebuild under warranty, they replaced everything from head, valves, piston with gudgeon pin & the block. After that for the first 2000km I have again maintain the run-in. How come man?

And regarding the ignition system how to ensure that everything is OK?

BTW did you replace the jets of 180 and what is the result?

Bro if they say carb's are the problem, then why dont you try and swap a carb from another perfect RTR and test it for few hundred kms if possible and see?

**vinodraj** · 01-23-2010, 10:48 PM

can any one tell about the mileage of rtr160 and fi.

**rocker** · 01-24-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by jasmeetsinghchawla View Post

Get the chain checked and adjusted carb and Air filter cleaned in front of yourself then see the results.

Rear tire is free to move, so no problem in this department, I think.

I think your the bike is suffering from compression loss, after few minutes of riding when the bike comes upto working temoerature just decrease the idling to 1000 rpm if the bike stalls then you need to change the piston rings no major problem.

Dont know about it but I think problem is not so major. But will try if any simple thing will not work.

Originally posted by indianz_alive View Post

Clutch plates can also be the culprit for sluggish nature... If yours has done around 20Ks on odo, this possibility can be more prominent. Try 0-60 reading, I think it won't be less than 5.2 sec.

Some days ago I clocked 4.9 sec 0-60. I am not of a very good dragster but I clocked that figure. I think clutch plates are finre.

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

your main prob lies in the top speed department....

how many kms logged?

:are you getting acceleration as before??
:has efficiency dropped??
:any cold starts probs??
:any hiccups after 6000Rpm??

most importantly to check if clutch plates are gone or not, accelerate your bike in gear and shift without closing the accelerator, if the bike pauses (revs and then goes forward,after the clutch is disengaged) and then takes on the surge, your plates are fried.

103xx kms done

:I cant say this ??
:Running very little these days because of the exams (boring stuff)!! So no idea about effeciency.
: Yup Cold start is a every day problem now, rpms are lower than 1000 on the first start but rpms stay at 1400 after warming up with little fluctuation.
: Nothing but top sspeed is low, but bike run at the same speed at the same speed a it used to before.

**nox2505** · 01-24-2010, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

Rear tire is free to move, so no problem in this department, I think.

Dont know about it but I think problem is not so major. But will try if any simple thing will not work.

Some days ago I clocked 4.9 sec 0-60. I am not of a very good dragster but I clocked that figure. I think clutch plates are finre.

103xx kms done

:I cant say this ??
:Running very little these days because of the exams (boring stuff)!! So no idea about effeciency.
: Yup Cold start is a every day problem now, rpms are lower than 1000 on the first start but rpms stay at 1400 after warming up with little fluctuation.
: Nothing but top sspeed is low, but bike run at the same speed at the same speed a it used to before.

Just replace the spark plug. that should solve the problem.

**thegreat1** · 01-24-2010, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

i'm not happy with this oil, the vibration have increased considerabley as compared to the engine filled with the can of POWER 1...

it is a good oil but not for RTR.

although, the smoothness below 5000RPM is as same but above 6000RPM with POWER 1 it's almost 30% less vibes..

thouth POWER 1 is not liked by many others here in this forum , but i've very good experience with it, right from my FIERO days...

will change back to POWER1 or SPRINTA (if i'm able to find one here in INDORE) after 700kms.

Dear Renny, Do tell me if u find sprinta in Indore

**shawaiz khan** · 01-24-2010, 02:08 PM

do anyone knows what is the total cost of apache 180 in delhi?

**abhiwar** · 01-24-2010, 02:34 PM

Help

Hello , I Need some help .

Well . from past few days(more thn 1week) am facing serious/strange problem with Front Disk break sala break lagta hi nahi i mean no matter how hard u try . And some time it will work for Few kms and again front break stops working .

1:- SVc mech did some work but no use even after replacing old break fluid with new oil . And now Mech says some Piston has gone .

2:- Break Pads are only 2000kms Old

IS there any Warranty on Front Disk Brk assembly ..? My bike Is 25k and 1year old .

**abhiwar** · 01-24-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by vinodraj View Post

can any one tell about the mileage of rtr160 and fi.

I Get 45-50 with hardcore ripping and 52+ with decent riding

**nox2505** · 01-24-2010, 05:21 PM

Spares shortage in west zone.

I am facing the spares shortage in mumbai region. I wanted to buy following spares, but they are not available

. tha same are as follows:

1. Carburetor minifold- Not Available at innovative and priayanka TVS. After market are not of good quality.

2. Rear brake Master cyl. pivot pin- Available in rear disc service kit, which costs around 400 bucks. And pin should not cost more that 10 Rs.

3. Rear suspension Bushes- Not available in SVC as well as other auto shops.

4. Carburetor vaccume slide & diaphragm- Not available in SVC as well as other auto shops.

Heck i am regretting myself for not buying Hero Honda or Bajaj

.
All shopkeepers say. Hero Honda have many common spares(Very much True! check out their bikes) and Bajaj spares surely get sold within a month (Thanks to poor quality and even milkmen here use discovers and pulsars). But TVS spares do not give up soon and are non standard. So we do not keep them.

**rennycornelius** · 01-24-2010, 05:26 PM

@rocker:

make the mixture little rich by half turns, and change the plug as nox2505 said, and post the changes.

Originally posted by thegreat1 View Post

Dear Renny, Do tell me if u find sprinta in Indore

ya buddy.

will try at the castrol dealer near railway reservation office.

Originally posted by abhiwar View Post

Hello , I Need some help .

Well . from past few days(more thn 1week) am facing serious/strange problem with Front Disk break sala break lagta hi nahi i mean no matter how hard u try . And some time it will work for Few kms and again front break stops working .

1:- SVc mech did some work but no use even after replacing old break fluid with new oil . And now Mech says some Piston has gone .

2:- Break Pads are only 2000kms Old

IS there any Warranty on Front Disk Brk assembly ..? My bike Is 25k and 1year old .

if the piston is gone then it's surely covered under warranty, as the warranty if of two years.

**onlinesatish** · 01-24-2010, 06:13 PM

@nox

Even i need suspension bushes. Ppl here say it does not come as a seperate spare. Need to try local spares shop to see if i can find a match!

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