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  • ashwinprakas
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    Chain lubing is just as controversial as engine oils, so to each his own, my thumb rule is;
    1. Don't bother cleaning, the debris that can cause harm gets flunged off in action and the debris that sticks behind helps retain the oil.

    2. Use only fresh gear oil, during the GQ ride since I skipped packing gear oil in the hopes of keeping luggage minimal I had to depend on roadside mechanics, one chap at Bubaneswar gave me a can of used engine oil and I lubed my chain with it, by next day morning after covering around 800 KM's the chain developed some noise and on observation a couple of links had seized, hence why I always recommend using fresh gear oil. I'm still using the chain in question, runs noisy and runs against something on every cycle but I'm cheap so would keep it for 2.5k more km's until I hit the 25k mark on the odo.

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  • rydergeorge
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    [MENTION=93060]highwayhermit[/MENTION]
    AFAIK, Only version 2 karizma comes with o ring chain. I won't recommend those fancy chain lubes. In my experience, it is better to stick with grease+ engine oil or gear oil. They are really cheap when compared to the so called chain lubes. I'm on the same chain and sprockets thatt I got when I bought my used zma. I've clocked 15 k kms and when I took my bike to my mechanic last time, he said the sprocket hasn't ran more than 8 k kms. That might be because I don't usually rip my bike.

    Chain and sprocket life depends on our riding style. I've posted pics of a modified karizma in this forum. The owner of the same bike told me that his chain and sprocket kit lasts for 20k kms without chain cover. Take care when you have a pillion wearing saree or something like that. A saree guard surely helps but there can be problems with open chain if the pillion is not sitting properly.
    Ride safe
    Last edited by rydergeorge; 08-25-2018, 11:46 PM.

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  • highwayhermit
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    Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
    I've removed chain cover two months ago. I'm using grease- used engine oil mix to lube the chain. You will have to clean the chain frequently. Chain might won't last without a cover like with a cover. But with frequent cleaning and lubing, you'll get chain life almost near to using it with cover. Cleaning becomes super easy after removing cover. I cleaned it only after riding through flood affected roads in kerala. Lube won't last without cover. If you can clean and lube it frequently, I think it'll be ok.
    Thanks [MENTION=64904]rydergeorge[/MENTION]! The plan is to stick to grease+engine oil mix as well. By lube, do you mean those chain lube canisters?

    I've been reading a bit about chain life, does the Karizma R have an O-ring chain or not? I'm not sure as I replaced chain+sprocket at ASC 4500 kms ago. What's a reasonable life expectancy of these Rolon chains?

    The rattling sound and chain clanging sometimes against the cover drove me nuts. Bike is much quieter now. Next up on the removal list is the saree guard.

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  • rydergeorge
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    Originally posted by highwayhermit View Post
    Hi guys,

    Just returned from Spiti and the Karizma Top chain cover cracked from its bolt (near the rear shocker) a few days back, resulting in a lot of rattling noise when going over small potholes/bumps.

    Is it a good idea to remove the chain cover altogether? What difference in maintenance will removing chain cover cause?

    Please advise. Thanks.
    I've removed chain cover two months ago. I'm using grease- used engine oil mix to lube the chain. You will have to clean the chain frequently. Chain might won't last without a cover like with a cover. But with frequent cleaning and lubing, you'll get chain life almost near to using it with cover. Cleaning becomes super easy after removing cover. I cleaned it only after riding through flood affected roads in kerala. Lube won't last without cover. If you can clean and lube it frequently, I think it'll be ok.

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  • highwayhermit
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    Hi guys,

    Just returned from Spiti and the Karizma Top chain cover cracked from its bolt (near the rear shocker) a few days back, resulting in a lot of rattling noise when going over small potholes/bumps.

    Is it a good idea to remove the chain cover altogether? What difference in maintenance will removing chain cover cause?

    Please advise. Thanks.

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  • rydergeorge
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    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Yes, please provide individual part numbers of stock Chain and Sprocket kit, workshop manual AFAIK has only part number for the complete set, not individually.

    Akhil's friend Aquib was able to source a brand new 40T ZMA Rear Sprocket for me from the SVC with the help of its individual part number.



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  • ashwinprakas
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    Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
    Already asked about all that. He says chain is stock.
    Yes, please provide individual part numbers of stock Chain and Sprocket kit, workshop manual AFAIK has only part number for the complete set, not individually.

    Akhil's friend Aquib was able to source a brand new 40T ZMA Rear Sprocket for me from the SVC with the help of its individual part number.

    Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
    DCM beams are 6 inches comes with H4 holders...
    Most motorcycle headlight housings come in 7 inches, though IIRC TVS XL headlight housing is 6 inches and might work with DCM dome.

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  • theironhorse99
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    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Please make sure to double check the bulb type before making the purchase, reason being I had a hard time finding a H4 round headlight, most of the options available came with the BA20D holder.
    DCM beams are 6 inches comes with H4 holders...

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  • Om1234
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    How to fix time clock button on zma?

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  • nings!
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    Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
    Asked the owner. It's stock
    but it seems different in the pics. may be due to the hand guards. the bike looks really cool.

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  • rydergeorge
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    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Do ask him to share the part numbers of the sprockets and chain for those who wish to order the same individually.

    Since I'm currently using a dumbphone I've lost his contact and am not on WA.
    Already asked about all that. He says chain is stock.

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
    Asked the owner. It's stock
    Do ask him to share the part numbers of the sprockets and chain for those who wish to order the same individually.

    Since I'm currently using a dumbphone I've lost his contact and am not on WA.

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  • rydergeorge
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    Originally posted by nings! View Post
    can anyone tell me which handlebar is fitted on this bike? it looks great
    Asked the owner. It's stock

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  • nings!
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    Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
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    can anyone tell me which handlebar is fitted on this bike? it looks great

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  • acs1207
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    Originally posted by highwayhermit View Post
    Hello,

    This Youtube video should help you in cleaning the carburettor - https://youtu.be/_ViaULYap98?t=34s

    This mechanic, Ali, also has other great videos on Karizma repair etc. I keep watching his channel to see what all "Could be/go wrong" with my Karizma.

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    [MENTION=64904]rydergeorge[/MENTION]

    Your inbox is full, sharing photo with both silencers on cowl here...


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