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  • Vijay1911
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    Hello all! Good to see some activity here.
    I replaced the old fuel cock (with brownish filter in picture) assembly with new one (with white color filter in picture), as the original fuel cock assembly filter screen was cracked in few places resulted in cleaning of the carburetor few times.
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  • acs1207
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    Had removed the air filter yesterday for some unrelated maintenance and this is how it looks now. This is the psr mod air filter. The hot glue has disintegrated at the bottom.. wonder why. Also there are gaps where the hot glue has gone. Have to fill the gap.
    I'm not sure how many kms back I'd put it in.. must be 5 or 7 years back atleast.. say, maybe 15 to 20k kms..
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  • acs1207
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    Oil changed last week, but could feel only a slight difference even though the old oil was yuck black.
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  • acs1207
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    Re-reg complete. Next in line are some minor details.. front tyre, bar-end weights, petrol tap, front brake etc. Click image for larger version

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  • acs1207
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    Sorry, posted twice. Delete option not seen, hence editing.

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  • acs1207
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    Seems nobody has any queries or reports...😎

    I was having a carb with damaged slide and the revvs would go down only very slowly. It got on my nerves / I had enough of it and thought about selling the bike. One day, maybe 2 months back I came across a 2nd hand carb which I had purchased but never used. I took it to my mech and asked him to swap it. He did so and retuned the carb. But ever since the bike is running too lean, needs more than 1 km running with the choke on, acceleration isn't good until about 60 kmph etc. But after 4k rpm it is like a demon as long as I keep the rpm up. I ride 13 ~14 kms (x2) daily and a small stretch of around 2 kms is straight(nearly). On that stretch I was riding above 6.5k rpm. I don't do that regularly, my normal speed if there is no traffic is 60 to 70 kmph.
    Well, the bright side of low power is high mileage. I am getting 37 to 44 kmpl nowadays in rayp mode. Just to check it (almost) daily I fill in 50 ₹ worth of petrol (440 ml). The figures vary depending on whether there is a road block or not.
    My re-registration is due in some days and till then I am not going to tinker with anything. After that I may opt for more power.. let's see.

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  • The Pain
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    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

    Would recommend you stick to 10w for the best of both worlds. 20w would definitely make it harder and non-compliant.

    Cheers!
    VJ

    Thanks VJ. Will pick up a 10w bottle tomorrow from Yamaha. They sell a 1/2 litre bottle of 10w fork oil. Quantity wise is 150ml a safe bet? as measuring a precise 146ml will be a pain. Thanks

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by The Pain View Post
    Ohh.. this thread has been quiet for quite a while it seems. I recently reacquired my Karizma R need to rebuild the front forks. The user manual has the quantity of oil per fork listed (144ml +/- 2ml) but does not mention the grade of fork oil..

    Im looking for the plush stock Karzima ride so im assuming the fork oil is 10w. 20w may make the ride too stiff i feel.

    Please advice if 10w is the stock weight fork oil used in the Karizma forks

    Thanks in advance for any help you can provide
    Would recommend you stick to 10w for the best of both worlds. 20w would definitely make it harder and non-compliant.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • The Pain
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    Ohh.. this thread has been quiet for quite a while it seems. I recently reacquired my Karizma R need to rebuild the front forks. The user manual has the quantity of oil per fork listed (144ml +/- 2ml) but does not mention the grade of fork oil..

    Im looking for the plush stock Karzima ride so im assuming the fork oil is 10w. 20w may make the ride too stiff i feel.

    Please advice if 10w is the stock weight fork oil used in the Karizma forks

    Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
    How best we can arrest vibration in Karizma. What can we do to prevent cracks at the fibre mount points?

    Well, I have sourced rubber grommets 10mm ID. Possible place them between belly cowl clamps. Another at the rear silencer mount point, though I'm not sure how far is it going to help. But I would like to try.

    There are other screws that would be even smaller for which I have thought of placing nylon washers between the screw and the fibre mount.

    The nylon washers(white) as it comes on fairing I guess looks okay to me however wanted to check if anyone had fixed an alternative to arrest the vibration.​

    Reminds me of my Pulsar 220 days, which were prone to the infamous front fairing buzz that seem to come out of everywhere. You think, you've found out a spot, isolated that spot and do some jugaads to fix it and voila in 10 mins the sounds return. What I did back then was pretty much the same. I've tried the following, double-side tape, nylon washers over the philps screws of fairing, not all but some and thirdly, my jugaad where I cut cycle tubes to squarish pieces and stuck them at the prime points.

    From my experience, cycle tube, cut to right sizes pieces glued strategically helped "tighten" the fairing unit as a hole. Meaning, there used to be gap between the rubber grommet and the body in my P220. Using these tube patches eventually made them fit tighter, meaning, once where there were gaps between rubber grommets, now the rubber grommet sat tight pressing against the body which had my rubber patches pasted. This reduced 90% of the vibrations and cold runs were as smooth as a Honda, though once heated, the typical harshness of the engine was present.

    The cowl/fairing buzziness, that plasticky buzz I was used to had vanished and it stayed the same till I parted ways with the bike, back then. I've tried double sided tapes, washers, but nothing solved it to my satisfaction like cycle-tube patches placed strategically through trial and error. In your case, the lower air dam cowling and the mounts might not look good using patches, but you can try this on your front quarter fairing innards. Also, the Karizma wasn't a vibe-free bike, eventually, it it will creak and crack given its age. If you find your engine vibration to be prominent, try inspecting your engine foundation bolts for proper torque. Also I'd recommend you to tighten your head/cylinder main bolts as they eventually get loosened over time and can lead to engine vibrations.

    Glad to see you post after a long time, hope all is well on your side.

    Take care!

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • SriramEfunds
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    How best we can arrest vibration in Karizma. What can we do to prevent cracks at the fibre mount points?

    Well, I have sourced rubber grommets 10mm ID. Possible place them between belly cowl clamps. Another at the rear silencer mount point, though I'm not sure how far is it going to help. But I would like to try.

    There are other screws that would be even smaller for which I have thought of placing nylon washers between the screw and the fibre mount.

    The nylon washers(white) as it comes on fairing I guess looks okay to me however wanted to check if anyone had fixed an alternative to arrest the vibration.​

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  • SriramEfunds
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    Hi All,

    Hope you guys are all rockin with ZMA. I'm looking for Karizma workshop manual. Basically would like to know the carburetor float bowl height that is recommended by factory.

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  • rawat97
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    Originally posted by psr View Post

    Depends a lot on the driving style. People doing slower acceleration , lesser load ie., single person ride, , not attempting overtake or sudden accelerator input , generally driving in Grandps mode will have no problems....otherwise lesser number of clutch plates and or slip will cause lower FE , lesser power,lower speed, and quicker clutch wear out.
    Thanks psr sir

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  • psr
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    Originally posted by rawat97 View Post
    Hello B7ACKTHORN psr ,fellow members...My friend was facing some problem with clutch slippage from some time..we went to new garage and found previous mechanic have installed only 4 friction plate instead of 5..there are other issue with the clutch assembly as well so ordered whole assembly.
    so just curious how performance would be affected when less than 5 clutch plates are present.how much slippage or what kind of effect it make..does the lesser amount of plates effect in higher rpms only ..just curious..thanks
    Depends a lot on the driving style. People doing slower acceleration , lesser load ie., single person ride, , not attempting overtake or sudden accelerator input , generally driving in Grandps mode will have no problems....otherwise lesser number of clutch plates and or slip will cause lower FE , lesser power,lower speed, and quicker clutch wear out.

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  • rawat97
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    Hello B7ACKTHORN psr ,fellow members...My friend was facing some problem with clutch slippage from some time..we went to new garage and found previous mechanic have installed only 4 friction plate instead of 5..there are other issue with the clutch assembly as well so ordered whole assembly.
    so just curious how performance would be affected when less than 5 clutch plates are present.how much slippage or what kind of effect it make..does the lesser amount of plates effect in higher rpms only ..just curious..thanks

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