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**prabhubravo** · 09-19-2011, 09:24 AM

^^ yup, as things are getting right prespective.
"winners are not always the ONLY heros"

OT: BTW thats a nice trip log. Brought back memories of my trips

**Abhii46** · 09-19-2011, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post

^^ yup, as things are getting right prespective.
"winners are not always the ONLY heros"

OT: BTW thats a nice trip log. Brought back memories of my trips

Will speak only when he starts winning again.

Thanks for your comment ( for my trip log ).

**niranjanvaidya** · 09-19-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

Edit:
P.S:- IF,stoner doesnt win today, I know whats his reason gonna be

And that would be/would have been?

**TheRedPill** · 09-19-2011, 02:07 PM

Apparently Bradl's rear tyre moved 180 degrees on the wheel and hence he dropped back. Bad luck continues for him.

Marquez is a well funded talented rider plus he is Spanish

Hope he does well in motoGP. He will probably get to motogp next year in a separate team fully backed by factory Honda.

So now it is probably clear that material is not the problem in Ducati. As analysed by arm chair people they should try changing the engine layout as well

**Abhii46** · 09-19-2011, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post

Apparently Bradl's rear tyre moved 180 degrees on the wheel and hence he dropped back. Bad luck continues for him.

Marquez is a well funded talented rider plus he is Spanish

Hope he does well in motoGP. He will probably get to motogp next year in a separate team fully backed by factory Honda.

So now it is probably clear that material is not the problem in Ducati. As analysed by arm chair people they should try changing the engine layout as well

But still they didn't used full aluminium frame, it was used only for front end. How about full twin spar aluminium chassis( whatever ) along with engine as a carried member and not stressed?
I hardly know how all this stuff makes difference.

**Abhii46** · 09-19-2011, 02:45 PM

Repsol Honda's special livery compared to Yamaha and Suzuki:

**Abhii46** · 09-19-2011, 02:46 PM

2 amazing pics:

**TheRedPill** · 09-19-2011, 02:57 PM

Superb pics! Thanks for sharing. Aragon is a fabulous place. They take super pics: Some from my side as well

From Martin Heath: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Martin...m/341504119629

From Andrew Wheeler:

देखने के लिए लॉग इन या साइन अप करें

http://www.facebook.com/andrewwheeler.automotophoto

Facebook पर पोस्ट, फ़ोटो और बहुत कुछ देखें.

Bradley Smith will stay in Moto2 next year and move to Tech3 Yamaha for 2013 and 2014. That's good news from his twitter:

I am very happy to announce I have signed a 3 year deal with Tech 3 - Moto2 2012 + Motogp 2013 + 2014.

**phoenixflight** · 09-19-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

2 amazing pics:

A lesson from the best on how to start a turn.

**worrisomebear** · 09-19-2011, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

Repsol Honda's special livery compared to Yamaha and Suzuki:

repsols new livery looks cartoonish..yamaha looks much better
infact white red combination colors are also avail for R6 and R1 and look very nice

**R-series** · 09-19-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

But still they didn't used full aluminium frame, it was used only for front end. How about full twin spar aluminium chassis( whatever ) along with engine as a carried member and not stressed?
I hardly know how all this stuff makes difference.

As such the ducati practically doesn't have a frame on which the bike is made. Its actually a framless bike, with different components contributing to act as the frame. Like from part, connecting the T cone is now aluminum, the engine acting as a stressed member in the middle, a separate rear section making the base for the seat, and swingarm attached separatley aswell.
So you see, as such there is no component in the ducati that can be called the chassis. link below would give you a better piture (literally)

Ducati to Trellis Frame – Ciao | Ducati News Today

**Abhii46** · 09-19-2011, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by R-series View Post

As such the ducati practically doesn't have a frame on which the bike is made. Its actually a framless bike, with different components contributing to act as the frame. Like from part, connecting the T cone is now aluminum, the engine acting as a stressed member in the middle, a separate rear section making the base for the seat, and swingarm attached separatley aswell.
So you see, as such there is no component in the ducati that can be called the chassis. link below would give you a better piture (literally)

Ducati to Trellis Frame – Ciao | Ducati News Today

I just hope they come up with something which makes the bike competitive( no not Stoner

).
A competitive Rossi will definitely make the racing little interesting.

**kingkong** · 09-19-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by R-series View Post

As such the ducati practically doesn't have a frame on which the bike is made. Its actually a framless bike, with different components contributing to act as the frame. Like from part, connecting the T cone is now aluminum, the engine acting as a stressed member in the middle, a separate rear section making the base for the seat, and swingarm attached separatley aswell.
So you see, as such there is no component in the ducati that can be called the chassis. link below would give you a better piture (literally)

Ducati to Trellis Frame – Ciao | Ducati News Today

Now I know why the ducati isn't fast...there is no chassis

, they should get one soon...

.

Finished reading it...nice article

**princesirohi** · 09-20-2011, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

I just hope they come up with something which makes the bike competitive( no not Stoner

).
A competitive Rossi will definitely make the racing little interesting.

sure, and i would like rossi to push a little harder, i mean, he rarely crashes in races, it surely means that if he is not confident enough, he will not push it harder, but sometimes when you lack feedback, you just have to try pushing it a bit more to find out its actual limits. surely i don't know motogp more than rossi, but i want him to try harder.

Originally posted by kingkong View Post

Now I know why the ducati isn't fast...there is no chassis

, they should get one soon...

.

Finished reading it...nice article

LOL, ....but think about it, earlier they had problems with front end and now they have started to have trouble with rear too

maybe, rossi and his riding style is not fit for ducati, and ducati need somebody with riding style close to stoner's.....somebody who tries a bit harder, somebody who is more desperate to win.

and maybe at this age, its too much to ask for rossi to change his riding style.

at this stage i am too dissappointed with his results and hoping beyond hope ... race after race...and i think even 2012 is gonna be a repeat of 2011, coz with more cc, you will need a bike that handles better than 2011 bikes.

**prabhubravo** · 09-20-2011, 08:47 AM

Marquezzz to motogp from 2012

Source :GP Week page 18-19

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