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  • #781
    I think it wasnt a stupid move at all. Dani was trying to defend, trying to take a tighter line, Simoncelli tried to go outside,

    Maybe he thought Dani was slow. I do understand that it will hamper Dani's races this season(sad for that), why's everyone targeting simoncelli.

    Did anyone forget dani crashing into Nicky Hayden in Sachenring?

    Dani later says that he didn't want to overtake at that point at all.

    Andrea iannone(Another Italians ), it seriously happens so fast. It leaves one without any time to think what to do.

    Tony elias, missing his braking markers and hitting Rossi.

    Why Marco?

    Not an expert here just my view,can be rubbished by anyone here .

    One thing I didnt understand was why did Dani sit up, if he cud have hit the brakes a little more, cud have avoided(again, my view)
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    • #782
      Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
      Ducati the inferior machine?? Its the bike on which stoner won races! and Ducati was poured in lot of $$$ for new parts. Its just that Rossi has to recover fully and adapt to the Duc.
      Ducati inferior with respect to Rossi,
      Cuz Rossi believes in corner speed more than Straight line speed and U knw the way Stoners Ducati used to speed past all the riders on straights.

      Its just that ducati has to to set for rossi's likings,

      Dunno technical way to explain this.
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      • #783
        I'm sure Marco wouldn't have been penalized if he wasn't the center of everyone's "examples" bout safe riding the weeks leading up to the race.

        the Marco vs Dani incident was two riders pushing the limit.

        the Lorenzo vs Dovi overtake was a bullying move.


        Originally posted by kingkong View Post
        Dovi is talking big.
        he's definitely got something to be happy about.
        rossi usually comes out on top in those kind of situations.

        Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
        I think it wasnt a stupid move at all. Dani was trying to defend, trying to take a tighter line, Simoncelli tried to go outside,
        Dani did take a really tight line... and looked like he was going to run "extra" wide to block Sic from overtaking him from the outside.
        (also coz he had a right coming up too)

        something like this maybe...

        Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
        One thing I didnt understand was why did Dani sit up, if he cud have hit the brakes a little more, cud have avoided(again, my view)
        Dani prolly realized that he'd prolly end up taking Simoncelli out if he didn't (straighten up).

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        • #784
          Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
          I think it wasnt a stupid move at all. Dani was trying to defend, trying to take a tighter line, Simoncelli tried to go outside,

          Maybe he thought Dani was slow. I do understand that it will hamper Dani's races this season(sad for that), why's everyone targeting simoncelli.

          Did anyone forget dani crashing into Nicky Hayden in Sachenring?

          Dani later says that he didn't want to overtake at that point at all.

          Andrea iannone(Another Italians ), it seriously happens so fast. It leaves one without any time to think what to do.

          Tony elias, missing his braking markers and hitting Rossi.

          Why Marco?

          Not an expert here just my view,can be rubbished by anyone here .

          One thing I didnt understand was why did Dani sit up, if he cud have hit the brakes a little more, cud have avoided(again, my view)
          It's all a matter of a split-second.I am sure Dani wasn't expecting Simoncelli to make this stupid a move.It's been more than 24 hours now since the crash and even the most experienced of experts are still coming out with-Dani could have done this or that..I mean,when it's taking 24 hours for the experts then how can one expect Dani's reflexes to be lightning quick..

          Upshot is-Simoncelli was at fault.Even if I am not a Lorenzo follower I am in total consent with whatever he had to say about Simoncelli earlier.Lorenzo was nearly killed by Sic earlier..
          Last edited by shivank; 05-17-2011, 12:15 AM.
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          • #785
            Repsol Honda Press Release:

            Dani Pedrosa to decide next steps in coming days

            Immediately following yesterday's race, Dani Pedrosa returned to Barcelona with the X-ray scans from the Le Mans circuit medical centre. He visited his doctors at Teknon Medical Centre and further medical tests confirmed a clean break of the right collarbone.

            Pedrosa spent the night in the hospital, immobilised with a compressive dressing, and will decide in the next few days if he will undergo surgery to repair the fracture with a new plate or let the bone heal itself without intervention. In either case, his presence in the Grand Prix of Catalunya, to be held on June 5th, is uncertain.
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            • #786
              Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
              Ducati inferior with respect to Rossi,
              Cuz Rossi believes in corner speed more than Straight line speed and U knw the way Stoners Ducati used to speed past all the riders on straights.

              Its just that ducati has to to set for rossi's likings,

              Dunno technical way to explain this.
              Thats I point too. Its with adaptation, either the rider or the ride or both. Untill this is done to 100% we cant rule out either as 'inferior'. Im sure Rossi will be fighting at the front in the 2nd half of the season.
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              • #787
                Originally posted by xionite View Post
                I'm sure Marco wouldn't have been penalized if he wasn't the center of everyone's "examples" bout safe riding the weeks leading up to the race.

                the Marco vs Dani incident was two riders pushing the limit.

                the Lorenzo vs Dovi overtake was a bullying move.




                he's definitely got something to be happy about.
                rossi usually comes out on top in those kind of situations.



                Dani did take a really tight line... and looked like he was going to run "extra" wide to block Sic from overtaking him from the outside.
                (also coz he had a right coming up too)




                Dani prolly realized that he'd prolly end up taking Simoncelli out if he didn't (straighten up).

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                Good One,

                It was rossi's aggressive move on sete then,but inside line.
                And Marco's aggressive move from outside.

                Almost similiar though.



                But in Jerez,2005 Rossi knew what was gonna happen
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                • #788
                  Originally posted by shivank View Post
                  It's all a matter of a split-second.I am sure Dani wasn't expecting Simoncelli to make this stupid a move.It's been more than 24 hours now since the crash and even the most experienced of experts are still coming out with-Dani could have done this or that..I mean,when it's taking 24 hours for the experts then how can one expect Dani's reflexes to be lightning quick..

                  Upshot is-Simoncelli was at fault.Even if I am not a Lorenzo follower I am in total consent with whatever he had to say about Simoncelli earlier.Lorenzo was nearly killed by Sic earlier..

                  One thing's for sure, Lorenzo's gonna get the taste of his own medicine(250 cc era) and he's scared of SIC.

                  Lorenzo started complaining even before Dani - Marco incident happened. The incident was just a trigger. Lorenzo said people in the Paddock think like Lorenzo. Seems like Lorenzo was representing all the people from the paddock.

                  I dun see any other Rider complaining apart from Stoner and Lorenzo.(Now even pedrosa)
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                  • #789
                    Originally posted by shivank View Post
                    It's all a matter of a split-second.I am sure Dani wasn't expecting Simoncelli to make this stupid a move.It's been more than 24 hours now since the crash and even the most experienced of experts are still coming out with-Dani could have done this or that..I mean,when it's taking 24 hours for the experts then how can one expect Dani's reflexes to be lightning quick..

                    Upshot is-Simoncelli was at fault.Even if I am not a Lorenzo follower I am in total consent with whatever he had to say about Simoncelli earlier.Lorenzo was nearly killed by Sic earlier..



                    Experts took 24???

                    Wow...

                    That was just my thought, could have avoided. Didnt say had to avoid...
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                    • #790
                      Marco Simoncelli pulled off a blunder, but it wasn't on purpose. I shall term it as a stupid racing incident.

                      Lacey punching R dP was on purpose.

                      Simo was ahead, I couldn't see whether he cut off Dani, but he definitely got in too hot with very less or no room for Dani. Dani wasn't ahead IMO, but had no where to go.

                      Had Simo backed off, this incident would have been avoided.

                      J Lo's move on Dovi was fair enough and if these moves are banned, racing will just be a game.

                      WSBK at Monza was the race of this month

                      Few are comparing Rossi's prowess with Ducati, saying Rossi is riding the same machine. He isn't. Am attaching stats for both Stoner & Rossi.

                      Have fun

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                      • #791
                        Originally posted by skyknight19 View Post
                        some twitter quotes from my side as well...

                        Spalders Neil Spalding
                        Ok, it's 24 hours since Dani crashed and opinion is split whether it was a racing crash or not; but a ride thru penalty was not appropriate.

                        Johnny Mowlem
                        by tobymoody
                        @tobymoody totally agree! If Dani hadn't stood his bike up at apex they wouldn't have touched, but it's bumpy down the inside in2 tht corner

                        Neil Spalding
                        Taxi driver watched the race, reckons Simoncelli was hard done by.. Reckons Dani's bike twitched before he crashes... Pretty observant!

                        well the entire racing world is having difference in opinions so lets respect the difference in ours as well and agree to disagree on this shall we...

                        btw here;s a graphic depicting DP's injuries...


                        Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                        One thing I didnt understand was why did Dani sit up, if he cud have hit the brakes a little more, cud have avoided(again, my view)
                        Dani didn't expect Marco cutting so sharp. More of an instinctive reaction that he stood up to avoid the clash with Marco's bike but he had no room to go anywhere.

                        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                        Had Simo backed off, this incident would have been avoided.
                        Exactly my point. I am all in for aggressive riding but it shouldn't come at the expense of other rider's collarbone It should be a calculated risk. When you know you can't make it to the corner you should back off

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                        • #792
                          Originally posted by Braumabull View Post


                          Experts took 24???

                          Wow...

                          That was just my thought, could have avoided. Didnt say had to avoid...
                          Hindsight is always 20/20.. Pedrosa himself might be thinking that there were many ways he could have saved the contact.

                          The harm's been done and it's not the time to ask for what other alternate ways Ped had..No point discussing what could have been done.
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                          • #793
                            Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                            Marco Simoncelli pulled off a blunder, but it wasn't on purpose. I shall term it as a stupid racing incident.

                            Lacey punching R dP was on purpose.

                            Simo was ahead, I couldn't see whether he cut off Dani, but he definitely got in too hot with very less or no room for Dani. Dani wasn't ahead IMO, but had no where to go.

                            Had Simo backed off, this incident would have been avoided.

                            J Lo's move on Dovi was fair enough and if these moves are banned, racing will just be a game.

                            WSBK at Monza was the race of this month

                            Few are comparing Rossi's prowess with Ducati, saying Rossi is riding the same machine. He isn't. Am attaching stats for both Stoner & Rossi.

                            Have fun
                            can you post these pictures in higher resolution???

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                            • #794
                              Originally posted by skyknight19 View Post
                              can you post these pictures in higher resolution???
                              the images are from both of the rider's wikipedia pages, go to link..scroll down for all the stats

                              Valentino Rossi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                              Casey Stoner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                              Last edited by kingkong; 05-17-2011, 06:41 PM.

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                              • #795
                                Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                                Simo was ahead, I couldn't see whether he cut off Dani, but he definitely got in too hot with very less or no room for Dani. Dani wasn't ahead IMO, but had no where to go.

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