What ?? Failed!! Wining a world title+finishing 2,4,4 +scoring twice the point anyone has ever score on that bike in a given year is what you call failure? Moving over to a better bike is not a mistake. Stoner moved over to honda because he was getting a better bike. This is what any smart enough person would do. But Rossi moved from a winning bike(m1) to a struggling desmo to supposedly fix the bike and ride it like it should be ,inshort to prove he was better than Stoner. And now that he has failed to fulfill his promise, he deserves a good old verbal thrashing! I all my years i have followed motogp, no rider apart from Rossi has ever promised of developing a bike. And i like the way Rossi's banter is taken as mind games and other rider's banter as moaning. If were one of those immortal riders, trust me, i would have been pissed off by the special treatment he gets knowing given similar opportunity i'll be just as good. Imagine if Rossi had not been lucky enough to start his gp career on a good bike and not had the opportunity to spend most of his carrer of championship winning bikes or even worse, had to start his gp career at Ducati. would he be superior(w.r.t being 7 times champ which is the reason people give for the special treatment) than the likes of stoner, melandri, checa, capirossi, bayliss, gibenau, biaggi, etc. I don't think so. No other rider was as lucky as him up till now. My point is he should not be treated specially and declared as the best rider when there are/were equally good riders if not better than him. They are all talented and something special and we should respect all of them rather than indulging in fanboyism. If the stoner-honda and rossi-ducati move had not happened we would have never realised this. To me he is one of the best rider just not the god he is made to be.

Exactly! I see that you are a rossi admirer but can still see the point. That's how it should always be, fan rather than fanboy.

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now with his fav bike, there will be no excuses for rossi. and we as rossi fans expect no less than a top 3 finish in 2013 and world champion once agiain in 2014. now am i asking for too much?.... he got his fav. ride...right?

just wish stoner had stayed with honda for another season......the fight for top between him and rossi, both on their fav bikes, would have been worth watching, in addition to the tadka which lorenzo is sure to deliver......havnt seen marquez's moto2 races, hope he's as good as stoner.....meanwhile praying for another wet race so rossi can churn another podium this season

any guesses who's gonna win at indi ?

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Then you mean to say that Rossi has won championships with just luck and not his talent??? Rossi was a proven rider in 125 and 250's so he deserved a factory bike when he stepped to motogp like what Marc Marquez is deserving now and he proved them right scoring back to back titles with two different manufacturers... The problem with Ducati is they didn't work in the direction what Rossi/Burgees gave... So that is the reason the Rossi is quitting this doesn't mean he wins in luck and with good bike.. When he came to Yamaha from Honda, Honda was the winning machine and Yamaha is the most unliked machine in the grid but he won that year with Yamaha so a person with only luck cannot do it... Please don't boast that Rossi was winning with luck and superior bike and can you explain if Rossi was not in involved in M1's development will it would have won so many championships with Honda constantly trying to bring a better machine and even Ducati ?????

Excluding Rossi even Burgees couldnt fix that bike there are so many factors like electronics, tyres which have changes now from Casey's title winning Ducati so think before you comment on a rider like Rossi who has already proven what he is and fans just wont gather in thousands for a man winning with luck and no talent .......

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you caught me correct. Stoner is the fastest guy around the circuit. If there's a lap time competition I would bet my money on Stoner. I just hate his attitude, not his talent. I would never doubt his speed.
For Rossi, I've just been following him too much that maybe we just make fun of the wrong things he does and support the right things

This is probably the most sensible post on motogp riders in quite a while

Now..you should be shot in the balls for trying to flame !! He wasnt saying anything about Rossi being a bad rider or not talented. And he is correct about Rossi being lucky!!

Now there are only three riders who can be currently termed "FAST". Jorge Lorenzo, Casey Stoner and to a miniscule extent Dani Pedrosa. Jorge and Casey are way too good at the moment.


THe best thing about Rossi is that he is quite a cool personality and can joke around and create the atmosphere of fun. And this is what people like and this what draws crowds to watch the races. They are a marketeers dream and thats what helps motogp sell its merchandize.
Popular people has a way with the world (not only in motogp, but anywhere. Just check in your office how they manipulate things) and there would be no doubt a lot of rules and regulations that will be twisted in their favour.

Stoner will never be held in the same breath as Rossi because he is not popular. He is not the marketeers dream, speaks his mind and is quite a difficult character just like Mick Doohan and Max Biaggi.
But Stoner can walk with his head held high into the sunset knowing that one of the greatest riders of all time and probably the best personality to ride a bike couldn't match neither his devotion or pace when he was put on the same bike as Casey! Rossi will never be able to do that in his lifetime now!

So the question as to if Rossi is more talented than Stoner or Jorge, then the answer is NO!, not at the moment. Why? Because he doesnt have the bike to do it or the talent to ride that bike in a special way which is quite evident from the results this year.

If you need to find if Rossi has more talent than Lorenzo, wait till the next year. They will be on the same bikes and if Rossi can beat the shit out of Lorenzo, he can prove that point but with Casey is a difficult proposition since Stoner is retiring at the end of this year.

You need talent+hardwork+luck to succeed in anything. The first two criterias are/were satisfied by a number of riders. But only a few got away with the luck factor. And in my personal opinion no one was as lucky as Rossi. And hey, did i ever say luck alone?
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Cracked vertebrae, ouch .




W.r.t this, good thing Rossi is riding an m1 next year. Chances are yamaha will completely dominate but this opens up possibility of atleast a three way championship battle between Jorge, Dani and Rossi.


Totally!!

Stoner ,Biaggi?? Really

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Didnt have acces to QP.
Heard something about Nicky and Ben!

Stoner and Biaggi are miles apart.

Stoner crashed and tore his ligament on his foot. Spies crashed but other than a bit of a bang up, not too bad. Hayden suffered a concussion and is ruled out of this race. All this on turn 14. Rossi almost crashed here, just saved it. Not sure whether stoner can race.

^^ what ...??

so qualifying times..??

so rossi will come 5th after lor, ped, cal, dov.

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ok, got the qualifying times, sorry for that stupid post, didn't knew, rossi qualified in 11th position, even randy qualifies ahead of him.

what exactly happened..???

Randy is riding awesome an deserves to get a prototype(many others too ). Thats what Happened

RdP is .5 seconds faster this year on the ART, than what he was last year on the Sat Duc.

Says a lot about the quality of the duc!