Although not a fan of Rossi or Stoner
Rossi is getting back what he gave earlier when he was the champion. He and Jeremy have had to eat their words and put the foot in their mouth. Stoner may have not won the championship in 2008 but he definitely went out trying his best. He crashed but did not ride the Ducati conservatively..a true racing spirit.
Rossi and Jeremy have invoked this onto them by passing similarly sarcastic comments about Stoner, his riding and the 80 second joke
Potentially, Rossi, Stoner and JLo are the only master class in the otherwise average class. Pedrosa, Hayden, Dovi show occasional brilliance but that's about it.
Whether Rossi kicks or kisses a$$ in 2013 remains to be seen; especially when Yamaha have announced JLo to be their priority. If Rossi gets the same treatment as Spies, forget any championship.
Honda were smart and inducted new blood thinking about future; Yamaha though of money and the sponsorship while finalizing Rossi.

The problem is people hate stoner because he speaks the truth. Ok so he may go overboard at times

The sad part is that derogatory names like Moaner and Whore gay are used, just because they are competitors of your racing god. Thats not cool mate!

Thats true Dude. I am a fan of Rossi. However, I like the way Stoner rides. In the current crop of riders I think he is the only one who can challenge and defeat Lorenzo. Lorenzo is another guy who rides flawlessly.

There's only one of the two ways you can react at Stoner's recent comments on Rossi. You either hate Stoner more or praise him speaking the so called truth or fact like some people say!

Without pointing out any one racer, anyone who has won a MotoGP title at least once is a great rider without doubt (well at least for that year!!). That said, while I become a keyboard warrior here at my home and try to put out my opinion, I will definitely say this that Stoner is talking half crap! I agree about those jokes and sarcastic comments by Rossi's chief about fixing the Ducati in 80 seconds n all. But haven't Stoner himself already reacted to this before? But I would still understand his frustration.

But rest is pure crap. What does he mean by Rossi don't want to push the bike? I mean that Rossi wants to finish the race, get some points and don't want to crash, so this means he is not pushing the bike?! So Stoner or anybody else for that matter would appreciate Rossi's effort more if he goes completely ballistic, crashes out more often and scores zero points? In my opinion, that would only make Rossi look even more unsuccessful than he already is with the Ducati.

Moreover, being the most successful racer of this generation, Rossi can demand certain things his way. Nothing wrong in that. He only has few years left in MotoGP, so if he wants a more competitive motorcycle and doesn't want to adapt, there's nothing wrong in that either.

May be Stoner is frustrated as he can see that he is not going to retire as a champion as he might have planned!! Thanks to Lorenzo.

And isnt that the reason Stoner left Ducati ?? He knew Ducati werent spending on the updates as Stoner expected.

He says he feels sorry for Ducati that Rossi is leaving, should have thought about it before joining Honda.

@Monk I like Sete and Max too. Racing were more exciting those days. Much closer and intense than the recent times. I dont call them names
__________________________________________________ ___________

If Hayden had made those comments, that would have been ok. Stoner's already quit Ducati, whats he's deal?

After Laguna 08' Stoner said something like , people getting away with such hard moves.
What was his move on Bautista all about??

All I know is Rossi beat Stoner when they were head to head at le mans. Thats it.

I have absolutely no problems with any rider calling or saying anything about any other rider. I do find irritating is the disrespect towards these riders by mere mortals like you and me.

Rossi?s tactical retreat - Motorbikes - Motor Sport Magazine

Just like Rossi has/had the right to criticize others because he won races and was the champion, Stoner too has the right to do the same right now. Fact is Stoner was more successful than Rossi at ducati. Pushing hard would have led to crashing and scoring less points you say? I guess the man who suggested that scored twice the points every season on the exact same bike. Hack he won a world championship with that exact same strategy.


Imagine yourself in Stoners place with having Rossi constantly criticizing you despite you giving 100+%. What with people calling him the best rider when he hadn't even conquered the most difficult bike on the grid? What with him being the face of the sport when you KNOW you are equally good? All the previous desmo riders had praised you but you are not given the respect and importance you deserve just because one rossi thought you are crap. Frustrating aint it? Now that Rossi has failed miserably at the same thing, Stoner has all the rights to vent his frustration. And rossi deserves it for all his earlier mindless banter.

Anyways, Rossi will hopefully find himself in better position next year and bring a fitting end to glorious career. Regarding stoner being a moaner, well everyone are. Human tendency. And from what i read, successful racers always say that your career is over once you start blaming yourself for losses.

@theMonk completely agree with you sir. They deserve some respect for what they do. Calling names is nothing but fanboyish and lack of respect for other riders and the sport itself.

edit-
Ignorance is bliss ain't it?

@kedar3223: I agree with Stoner's frustration But in some way I believe that there's nothing wrong in Rossi's move back to Yamaha. It is simply the case of moving on to a motorcycle which suits him much better than Ducati. Everyone would do it. Stoner did it too

Oh yes. Never said there is anything wrong is rossi's move. As a follower of the sport i'm just happy that rossi will have a chance to be at the front. I was just annoyed by the fact that stoner is getting bashed just because he is venting out all the years of frustration that has built up. Rossi should just eat a humble pie and try to win again on the m1. Again place yourself in stoners place. The guy who has falsely criticized you in the past has failed miserably. Rossi had said that stoner did not 'push' the ducati and this resulted in lack of developement. Before his move to duc he promised to rectify all of 'mistakes'. He failed. Stoners ego got a massage and is now giving Rossi a piece of his mind. Fair enough i guess.

Anyways guys, what are your expectations from mark marques next year? Also any other(moto2, moto3, wsbk) rider you think should get a chance at motogp?

Stoner failed 3 years wid the Duca and then moved to Honda. Rossi's is moving after 2 years.

We can't take the credit away from Stoner..he was virtually been riding the same machine at Ducati from 2007 to 2010. When he had enough that's when he switched. He wasn't getting development on a machine which was good enough, that's when he got frustrated. He's proved he was able to ride it and keep it up front. Rossi has yet not been able to do that.

Stoner is more concerned about Rossi not being able to do it when they said they can. Stoner never said he'll win on any bike and still he's been able to stay upfront with the leaders. So that's what pissing him off more than Rossi's actions.

Marqueq is going to do a Lorenzo. Lot of learning the first year (fewer crashes though compared to Jlo) and challenging for the championship from 2014. Others will become "others" as usual. I see only Marquez as a suitable replacement for Stoner in terms of consistently finishing on the podium.

Yes but we can find some consistency with Stefan Bradl being a rookie and riding Satellite Honda he is showing some good phase and consistency.. On the new comers we can expect something from Marc Marquez he is a hard rider and wont give up things tat easy

Valentino Rossi explains his move from Ducati to Yamaha - YouTube

For all those talking about Stoner's comments regarding Rossi. Apparently those comments were made over the last 18 months in different contexts. And a particular journalist decided to string them together just before Indy to create some artificial fireworks. So calm down brothers

Rossi, Ducati And Yamaha: And The Winner Is... | MotoMatters.com | Kropotkin Thinks

IMS Press Release: 2012 Indianapolis MotoGP Pre-Event Press Conference - Lorenzo, Stoner, Hayden, Bradl And Rossi Speak | MotoMatters.com | Kropotkin Thinks